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GATSU



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:10 am Reply with quote
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As for the week dollar: The stronger it is the easier to import and harder to export, weak dollar means harder to import easier to export.


Yes, but that only works if the products being exported are of equal or greater quality than the products consumed domestically or from other countries. And judging by the corners American
corporations have been cutting over the last two decades-particularly in manufacturing-I wouldn't be surprised if foreigners would rather pay the extra cash knowing that they get a good which doesn't fall apart, because the Chinese or Salvadorian sweatshop worker was tired that day. Also, exports only account for short-term profits. And if you chose to lay off most of your staff, then you'll have less people consuming your product.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:35 am Reply with quote
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Well since most of the trade deficits are American, it's kind of tough not to blame Bush.


Heh, right now there are those who hold Bush responsible for the tsunami in Southeat Asia.


Nope, we're holding his stingy @$$ for that. $10,000 donation, pfft. Wouldn't feed a starving child for 2 days at most! Razz

And "Rev." Phelps glorified the Tsunami as an act of God for "eliminating 3,000 Swedish Gays from this earth." And let's not forget, that missing Swedish Kid would be happier as a Sex Slave!

it seems the good Reverend Phelps could use a lobotomy. Yeah God had to kill 12,000 men,women and children (of various races and cultures) just to get to 3,000 swedish Gays.. Rolling Eyes Ya gotta love those Christian fanatical Evangelists, i tell ya. Wink And speaking of which, it's Amazing that Japan has donated much more than America, I guess since Southeast Asia didn't have any oil resources, they (The Tsunami victims) don't qualify for more relief funds from "da Prez."


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I don't mean to go off-topic but what I was referring to was the inflation of the dollar that began in the 80's and never stopped. The dollar grew in strength while Japan was in recession and Europe wasn't in much better shape.

The over-valued dollar was one of the big reasons manufacturing couldn't sustain itself in the US, our exports were over-valued.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:14 pm Reply with quote
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Yes, but that only works if the products being exported are of equal or greater quality than the products consumed domestically or from other countries. And judging by the corners American
corporations have been cutting over the last two decades-particularly in manufacturing-I wouldn't be surprised if foreigners would rather pay the extra cash knowing that they get a good which doesn't fall apart, because the Chinese or Salvadorian sweatshop worker was tired that day. Also, exports only account for short-term profits. And if you chose to lay off most of your staff, then you'll have less people consuming your product.


Well now, you just gave a good arguement against Wal-Mart.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:39 pm Reply with quote
Stuey: Actually, in the 80's, it was Japan who was bailing us out, by buying the dollar. They were pretty prosperous at the time, but they invested in ventures as stupid as the internet, and that's partly why they've been in a slump for the last decade or so.

Haisekoh: Actually, they and a number of retailers had weak sales this past year, even during Christmas.
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lol I'm canadian and I havn't heard of dreamwave, now who will give us manga in Canada? Chapters likes to over-price manga that comes from the states, its cheaper to buy manga in the states now since our dollar has gone up
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:41 pm Reply with quote
Believe it or not, I used to read Transformers Armada. Its actually pretty good along with their other Transformers comics. I'll miss them. The graphic novels were very overpriced though. Even the pocket ones are around twelve bucks and printed on crappy paper.



s_j wrote:

You can also check http://www.dollarmanga.com. Most of their titles only $1, many at $3. Not quite sure how they figure shipping, but it's by FedEx, and my order of 15 books cost just over $40, plus $22 for shipping.

I've read somewhere that dollarmanga is indeed ComicsOne.



Yeah, apparently since they are all published by ComicsOne. I've been meaning to get Iron Wok Jan and Crayon Shin-Chan. I need money...
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Who said anything about laying off staff? If anything the increased amount of exports and weaker dollar would create more domestic jobs. As for the foreign labor: from America to Japan to Europe, everyone out sources. You don’t think Japan takes advantage of cheap Chinese and Korean workers? Right now it’s hard for American made products to compete with the cheaper alternatives, once again a weaker dollar could conceivably change that.

Exports are the backbone of most countries economies. American imports are pretty important everywhere. Right now the best way for an American business to make money is to sell to Americans. If the dollar slips it’ll be easier for us to turn a profit worldwide.

As for Japan one of their problem is they save too much and spend too little. People aren’t putting enough money back into their economy, which causes instability and fear, which causes people to save more. It’s a vicious cycle. Also their banking system needs a serious revamp.
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Who said anything about laying off staff? If anything the increased amount of exports and weaker dollar would create more domestic jobs.


In theory, anyway.

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As for the foreign labor: from America to Japan to Europe, everyone out sources. You don’t think Japan takes advantage of cheap Chinese and Korean workers?


The Japanese don't(at the moment, anyway)lay off hard-working Japanese employees, just because China and S. Korea are cheaper.

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Right now it’s hard for American made products to compete with the cheaper alternatives,


Maybe because American products are more expensive, but more inefficiently manufactured than the cheaper alternatives? Oh wait, capitalism shouldn't be about making an equal or better product, but about making a crappier product. I mean it worked for companies like GM and Chrysler. Oh wait, no it didn't.

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Exports are the backbone of most countries economies.


Well third world countries that are forced to substitute GMOs and which are charged tariffs for real crops, anyway.

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American imports are pretty important everywhere.


They're popular, but not important, as the recent removal of steel tariffs proved.

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Right now the best way for an American business to make money is to sell to Americans.


That supports my argument.

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As for Japan one of their problem is they save too much and spend too little.


And they've outlasted a decade-long recession that way, those cads.

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People aren’t putting enough money back into their economy, which causes instability and fear, which causes people to save more.


Well when they have money to put back into the economy, then I'm sure they will.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 11:34 pm Reply with quote
If a country has a weaker currency wouldn't other countries with a stronger currency buy the weaker currency since it would be cheaper? Thats why companies go to poorer countries because they know they can pay them less since their currency is weaker. And yes the best for an economy is to buy local/national goods since the money goes back into the economy.

The problem with Canada is most of our goods are all exports, we have too much natural resourses so we rely on other countries to buy from us, when they don't buy from us there's too much goods for our country to buy so it ruins our economy
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 5:36 pm Reply with quote
This devaluing arguement is a sad attempt to pass the buck. I'm glad to see that a Canadian company closing is another chance to bash Bush.

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Twin Budget and Trade Deficits.

Even though stronger-than-expected economic growth is bringing the budget deficit down and import demands up, conventional wisdom continues to portray the so-called “twin deficits” as a sign of weakness rather than strength. But if deficits were really so bad, then why was the U.S. economy so good? The U.S. budget gap is smaller that the fiscal shortages in Europe and Japan. And if our big European and Japanese customers would only grow faster, the U.S. trade gap would narrow significantly. What they need is a strong dose of George W. Bush’s pro-growth cowboy capitalism. Meanwhile, with a solid U.S. economy — featuring strong investment returns and a dose of monetary restraint — the greenback looks to be undervalued.

Strong Economy.

A combination of 4 percent economic growth, a 5.4 percent unemployment rate, and 2 percent inflation trumped repeated naysaying in the media and once again illustrated the economic power of lower marginal tax rates on rising employment and investment. The productivity revolution also continued. Internet use soared. Family net worth reached a new record high.


(Source: Larry Kudrow, NRO http://www.nationalreview.com/kudlow/kudlow200501041018.asp)
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Being a right-wing economist means never having to do any real work.

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You wouldn’t know it from the big media headlines, but 2004 was a pretty darn good year.


Yes, torture of Iraqis, Powell & Co. admitting that there weren't really WMD's, Kerry losing to the propaganda of the Swift Boat "veterans"-a great year indeed.

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No Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil.


I guess it supports that "flypaper" theory that our troops will allow for the terrorists to attack them instead of us.

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This was huge — and it happened for the third consecutive year.


Despite budget cuts which mean the next 9/11 could be even more destructive.

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The U.S. economy can’t grow if businesses are shut down and our producers can’t get home safely at night.


It can't grow anyway.

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Fortunately, whether from better homeland-security information-sharing, enhanced policing, or the Patriot Act, by the good grace of God we were once again spared from terrorist violence.


Because God hates Muslims and loves America.

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Bush Reelected. Again, conventional wisdom was flat-out wrong: There was no post-election electoral gridlock.


Except for the recount in Ohio and the Democrats attempting to address voting problems there, such as long lines.

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Instead, Bush won handily.


He won by 3%, which isn't a mandate.

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His victory removed considerable uncertainty from the economy and the stock markets.


Which is why they're still in flux.

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There is no better illustration of the positive Bush effect than the dramatic stock market rally that raised share prices by 10 to 12 percent since late October.


Although still lower than 5 years ago...

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Fortunately, the retaking of Fallujah and strong Iraqi voter registration has made for a greater likelihood of successful elections on January 30.


Didn't they also say we'd be out of there by now?

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The Afghan elections were a huge plus.


If you don't count that voter fraud was a strong possibility, due to erasable ink and multiple cards.

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Elections are coming to Palestine.


And that will automatically stop the conflict over there.

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Democracy will gradually transform the entire region.


Hey, it worked for Russia. Oh wait, no it didn't.

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Strong Economy. A combination of 4 percent economic growth,


Below the standard needed to move beyond the recession.

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a 5.4 percent unemployment rate,


Above the standard needed to move beyond the recession.

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and 2 percent inflation


Which will go up in the next few months.

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trumped repeated naysaying in the media and once again illustrated the economic power of lower marginal tax rates on rising employment and investment.


Yes, corporate welfare convinced businesses to hire people from India and China instead of America. U.S.A.! U.S.A.!

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The productivity revolution also continued.


Too bad actual sales were a different story.

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Internet use soared.


Which doesn't really mean anything, because people are now able to use the internet through cheaper venues such as cell phones and cafes.

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Family net worth reached a new record high.


A record high of bankruptcies.

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Conventional wisdom was once more proven wrong. Five Fed rate-hiking moves to drain excess cash from the economy and bolster the dollar were well received by financial markets.


The markets benefiting from oil, anyway.

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In 2005, less money from the central bank will help generate more non-inflationary prosperity for the rest of us.


Well the rest of us top 1-2%, anyway.

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Greenspan’s strategy of gradualism is paying off handsomely.


Yes, and I can't wait for how he's going to charge us more for our social security accounts, so that we don't really get to spend anything.

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As an alternative media information source, blogging came into its own in 2004.


Why am I not surprised that a pro-conservative propagandist would endorse the blog?

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Dan Rather and John Kerry were but two casualties of blogsite truth-telling.


Yes, a trusted and mostly consistent reporter and a war hero. I feel so proud.

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Of particular note is the fact that bloggers, much like Main Street folks throughout the nation, tend to be optimistic and positive about the countrywhile big established media continues to lean toward declinism and negativism.


You mean by diminishing and/or lying about the problems? Or focusing people's attention on other problems which, while important, have no relevance to the subject at hand?

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The China-impact on the U.S. economy was even more influential in 2004.


Yes. They're still pirating the hell out of our products, but they occasionally actually spend money on the real thing.

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The China boom drove up commodity prices, especially energy.


And a billion people needing oil is always a good thing.

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It also led to a boom in U.S. trucking, shipping, and railroading, as well as the transportation stock market index.


Except within the actual U.S.

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Lately, however, China-related shipping and tanker rates have been coming down fast, suggesting that the bloom may be off the China rose.


Oh well. Too bad for those hard working multi-nationals...

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Local economies will recover following the catastrophic South Pacific earthquake and tsunami, but it will take a while. (The death toll is unbelievable.) Closer to home, four hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico drove up energy prices and drove down Gulf economies — at least temporarily.


Yeah, a couple of hurricanes can really compare to 150,000+ people dead.

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Even though stronger-than-expected economic growth is bringing the budget deficit down


Until we start a new war or de-regulate social security, anyway.

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But if deficits were really so bad, then why was the U.S. economy so good? The U.S. budget gap is smaller that the fiscal shortages in Europe and Japan.


Perhaps, but Europe and Japan have stronger standards of living, and they're ranked higher in international educational tests.

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And if our big European and Japanese customers would only grow faster, the U.S. trade gap would narrow significantly.


Yes, because no one else is stupid enough to buy our excess crap.

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What they need is a strong dose of George W. Bush’s pro-growth cowboy capitalism.


Yes, because it worked for Argentina.

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Meanwhile, with a solid U.S. economy — featuring strong investment returns and a dose of monetary restraint — the greenback looks to be undervalued.


Thus defeating the purpose of your entire article. Bye.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:20 pm Reply with quote
I love this anime discussion.

BTW, Kerry never disproved any of the swift-vets claims, my mutual fund is growing for the third straight quater, Osama Bin Ladin has been reduced to parroting the DNC's talking points, and yeah, we won.......

For the record, you seem really disappointed by that "no terrorist attacks on the US for the past three years" and "voting in Afghanistan". Seems the Great Satan must be doing a few things right.
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BTW, Kerry never disproved any of the swift-vets claims,


Yes, and Max Cleland never disproved the ads which claimed that he was sympathetic to Saddam. Oh, and John McCain wasn't able to disprove the ads which were aimed at him.

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my mutual fund is growing for the third straight quater,


For now.

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Osama Bin Ladin has been reduced to parroting the DNC's talking points,


And apparently increasing the Iraqi insurgency to as many as 30,000 members.

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For the record, you seem really disappointed by that "no terrorist attacks on the US for the past three years"


Nope. Just disappointed that our troops have no armor against them.

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and "voting in Afghanistan".


Well it's kind of tough to behind the idea of voting for a former oil baron who helped engineer the invasion of your own country, and who's only winning, because the illiteracy rate in Afghanistan is so low.
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Back on the topic of Dreamwave, Diamond has addressed the issue:

(From TFormers)

Dreamwave Productions Ceases Operations Lead Stories, Diamond Daily, Thursday, January 06, 2005

Due to mitigating financial factors, Dreamwave Productions has ceased operations effective immediately.

As a result, no further products will ship from the company. However, an announcement regarding a new publisher for Dreamwave's titles -- including the best-selling Transformers line -- is expected in the near future. Once the publisher is announced, all pending new product orders for Dreamwave titles will be made order adjustable, and will eventually ship from the new company.

In addition, previously published Dreamwave titles are still available for reorder. Refer to the end of this article for a linked listing of Dreamwave products that are currently in stock at Diamond.

“Any time a vendor closes its doors, it impacts every level of the industry -- especially retailers and fans,” said Diamond Vice President of Purchasing Bill Schanes. “Fortunately, in Dreamwave's case, there are a number of companies actively pursuing their licensed and original titles, and we fully expect all Dreamwave series to continue once the dust has settled.”

Dreamwave and Diamond regret any inconvenience caused by this event. Retailers with additional questions regarding the effect of Dreamwave's closure on their orders should contact their Diamond Customer Service Representative."


Also, a member of the[url=http://www.transfandom.com/simpnews/news.php?category=-1]Transfandom[url] forums, Lord Shockwave, called Hasbro's Media Relations Manager Gail Carvelli and got the following responce: "Hasbro ended their relationship with Dreamwave comics in December 2004. With regards to the Transformers comic, we are currently meeting with other publishers and I wanted to let you know that the Transformers comic will be back soon."

So the wait may not be so long in getting new issues started again. It would seem that the intentions are to get every started back from where they've left off, which would certainly be for the best.

Emerje
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