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gumprps
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This is definately a series that you have to watch in full to really appreciate the plot(which is there if you're patient enough to get through 8-10 eps.) Its a slow starter aside from the fanservice hook, but I enjoyed it after it was all said and done and is worth at least finding a buddy who bought it to borrow from and check out.
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TsukasaGr
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Awful?? I haven't actually met anyone who saw Ikki and did not at _least_ like it. It's a great series, and the plot is there. The characters are _amazing_, and the graphics and music is way cool. The whole is absolutely enjoyable. I actually liked this more than Tenjou Tenge, whose plot really tired me. As a side note, I know at least five people who have seen Ikkitousen more than three times. Two of them are women. We all know what had to be done about the series but could never happen: it should have another 197 episodes.  Then I would show you plot.  For the too few 13 episodes the creators of the anime had, they did a great job indeed.
Please, more opinions from people who have actually _seen_ the anime they are talking about, so they can be entitled to an opinion, ne?
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Godaistudios
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I have seen the whole series... and I'll basically reiterate my statements. The plot is lost somewhere. Sure, there's a few snippets spread at the end of each episode, but there was far more concentration spent on the fanservice and sex rather than a fluid plot. It's a great premise, but it's executed horribly.
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biliano*
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Comments like these make me wonder why I even bother. 
Does this mean I have to watch the entire series to voice an opinion? I don't think so. Everybody using this forum is entitled to his/her opinion, whether he/she seen all, part, or none of a particular series. I did watch the first 4 episodes of Ikki, and I have the right to voice my opinion, just like you and everyone else that uses ANN's forums. As for what I saw, I agree with you; I thought the graphics and music were cool, but that's expected from a J.C. Staff title. The opening song sounds so good it could make killer background music for video games. But at this point of the series, I'm tending to side with Godaistudios. However, I do plan on buying the series if not for the fan service, but for the guilty pleasure it presents. |
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Godaistudios
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Well, watching the whole series (especially a shorter one) can lead you to make a more informed opinion. Occasionally something will happen towards the end of a series that can redeem what seemed mediocre halfway through. Not that Ikkitousen is one of them...
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TsukasaGr
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You bother because you love anime dear, as do most of the people around here. I am really sorry if someone got ofended by my comment, but what I meant was this: It is not that you may not _express _ an opinion, even after having watched zero episodes of a series. But it would be a crime if someone did not see a series, just because he heard the opinion of someone who just saw the opening and thew first five minutes of a, say, 102 episode series. This is a free forum in witch one can say whatever he wants, that is not the point. I can actually state my opinion on, for example, Ojamajo Doremi, although I could only find the first 15 episodes (as a note, I find it very good). But It would be sad to stop watching a series that really redeems itself later on. Chrono Crusade comes to mind. I totally accept the opinion of someone who has seen the whole of the series we are discussing about here, and did not like it. I just wanted to note that there are at least as many peoplel who loved ikki for the little characterisation and plot (and the fights) it offers in just 13 episodes. Maybe you didn't see it was there, or maybe it was not enough for you. Maybe it did not speak to you. But it spoke to others, that's all I'm saying.
Again I am sorry if I offended someone. That was not my aim, really. It is just really my opinion on the matter. There are as many types of anime as there are opinions on them. I just dislike comments or reviews that leave no space for doubt about a series one has not even bothered to watch to its end. |
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Steventheeunuch
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No, I've seen it, and it's a vapid, horrible show with freakish animation, un-hilarious exploding clothes, and is overall AMAZINGLY and SPECTACULARLY bad. That said, people can be entitled to an opinion even if they havemn't seen the show, because really, there are some shows you can go "yes, this is bad" to. |
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JusticeGundam
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This was one of the worst reviews i have ever read here..................
I mean I don't believe in "bad" anime. Anime is one thing entertainment. Ikkitousen is very entertaining. The series starts out slow, but gets alot better. The anime was rushed. It tried to accomplish so much in 13 episodes. More episodes would mean, more character development, and more plot development. Bad reviews mostly come from people who either did not like the series, or liked it, and usually if you did not like it you give it a bad review, for dumb reasons, just like the review, on ANN the animation deserves a B maybe even an A, and the rest deserve C's, maybe even a B. The anime is far from a bad series. Its just a series that needed to be longer for more development, but for a rushed 13 episode series it does a good job, and just picture if an anime like tenjho tenge was 13 episodes and how much it would have to cram in 13 episodes. I think its worth buying, thats is you don't mind fan-service, and if you can wait for the plot to develop more. |
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Nagisa
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And yours is one of the worst posts I have ever read here...
So you're one of those easily-amused simpletons? Do you find Yu-Gi-Oh! entertaining? What about Duel Masters? Dragon Ball GT? Love Hina? Popotan? Beyblade? Tenchi in Tokyo? Bad anime exists, dude. No medium is infallible, nor immune from some screwballs trying their hand at it & sucking. You don't have to be excessively picky, but some sort of discerning palette is actually a very good thing to have.
So there is no such thing as a well-written negative review? All reviews have to be glaringly positive no matter how godawful the subject matter is? Reviewers have to kiss-ass at every turn, whether they liked the presentation or not? Or are we just not allowed to disagree with you?
Well, I guess it's that we're not allowed to disagree with you specifically. Since when were you the master of all taste? Look pal, if you want to disagree with a review, do so with a bit of tact and respect to the reviewer. They're not wrong and you're not right, you just disagree on a subjective matter. If you can't handle that, then I suggest you step away from the internet (and all forms of press in the known universe, for that matter), and grow up a little before trying again. You seem to be lacking in the maturity factor. |
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JusticeGundam
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I wasn't disrespecting the reviewer, i was just saying that if you hate it you probably give it a bad review. I've seen that a million times, and what they find bad other people may find good. I enjoy the series. If you can handle ALOT of fan-service and wait for the story and plot to develop then maybe you should check it out. But come on the review the guy gave was just so, how do I put this in words, well I can't with out you calling me immature, just because of one or two statements in one post. So each to his or her own. |
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Nagisa
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You said the reviewer's reasons were stupid and carried on like they were "wrong" and you were "right." How is that not being disrespectful?
No, you specifically said that "people give bad reviews for dumb reasons." That's almost word-for-word, so unless your grammar is just that bad, I don't see how it was misinterpreted on my part.
So bloody what!? That's a review! A review is the opinion of the reviewer on the subject matter he or she is reviewing. It is not the reviewer pandering to the "general consensus" of whatever sect of viewers happened to like the subject. That's more in line with a shameless sales pitch.
Examples? Reasons? Give specifics here, don't just make a blanket statement and walk away. |
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JusticeGundam
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well thats an example, and I'm all for opinions but the way the guy did the review. You can tell he hates it, oh wait let me guess I'm immature for saying that. |
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Nagisa
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Where? I still have yet to see examples of why his negative review was "badly written" or whatever.
You kinda fail to demonstrate that up to this point.
Yes, you're immature for failing to realise what the point of a review is. You can tell he hates it because he does, and when a reviewer hates something they write an article detailing why they hated it and what they thought kept the piece from being decent. That's. A. Review. Naturally, when the reviewer liked something, they'll write an article explaining why they thought it succeeded, as well, but they will not write about why they thought something was good when they didn't think it was, as you seem to insist they're supposed to do. |
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Juniper
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No, you're excessively ignorant for saying that. Apparently you don't know what a review is. Allow me to enlighten you for the purpose of discussion: A review of a product is when one (or more) person/s takes that product, and using THEIR OPINION, writes something telling others what was good and/or bad about it. If they loved something, they will give reasons as to why they loved it. If they hated something, they will give reasons as to why. Yes, you can tell the reviewer hates Ikki-Tousen because guess what? He did!! And he gave reasons explaining why!! You can't go through life as a reviewer saying, "Well, I think this is the worst thing ever created, but I know that there's some people out there who might like it, so I'm going to give Bs and As for everything, just for those people!" There will always be people out there who like a certain product. But they're not the ones writing the reviews. The reviewers are. Stop being so ignorant. The world, alas, does not revolve around you. There *is* such thing as bad anime, and I'm sorry your palette isn't refined enough to sense that. |
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deathbringer
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Oh god you're here too? You know who this is. Nice to see you dropped the Shatner thing on this forum though. I still consider Ikkitousen to be one of the worst shows I've ever seen. |
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