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dormcat
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:22 pm Reply with quote
GATSU wrote:
For anyone who's seen both Whisper of the Heart and Cat Returns, which film is better? I only saw the latter one so far, and liked it, but considered it fairly disposable entertainment.

Ahh, you should watch Whisper of the Heart first. The Cat Returns is more or less a fantasy-styled spinoff from Whisper of the Heart. What the Baron kept telling Haru, "spoiler[believe in yourself]," seemed to be a little off and came from nowhere. The story of WotH is more solid and realistic, for it could happen to people around us, if not ourselves.

Just remember don't mistake matatabi as catnip. Nyo! Anime catgrin

Sir_Brass wrote:
because I'm an old (and recovered) Trekkie who grew up with ST:TNG.

Same here. Anime smile + sweatdrop

Sir_Brass wrote:
As an overall thing, talented screen actors make good voice actors for the very reason they are good screen actors: they know HOW to use their voice to achieve desired effects.

Patrick Stewart started his career as a Shakespearean actor, on a stage instead of in front of a camera, which is (in my opinion) much more difficult than TV/movie actors, for there's no special effects or post production and, most importantly, no second chance if you've made a mistake on stage.

Sir_Brass wrote:
debue (sp?)

Debut. It's French.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:25 pm Reply with quote
I knew about stewart's shakespearean experience (which is another reason I'm a huge fan of his), but I made the generalization with the intention to give a nod to the voice cast that was used for the english dub of Princess Mononoke, since that was a pretty good dub.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:42 pm Reply with quote
dormcat wrote:
GATSU wrote:
For anyone who's seen both Whisper of the Heart and Cat Returns, which film is better? I only saw the latter one so far, and liked it, but considered it fairly disposable entertainment.

Ahh, you should watch Whisper of the Heart first.

Second that. It's a fine film.

dormcat wrote:
Just remember don't mistake matatabi as catnip. Nyo! Anime catgrin

Matatabi = Actinidia polygama, or silvervine. It looks like this.

dormcat wrote:
Sir_Brass wrote:
because I'm an old (and recovered) Trekkie who grew up with ST:TNG.

Same here. Anime smile + sweatdrop

Some of us are old enough to be recovering from TOS, you young whippersnappers! Grump.

dormcat wrote:
Patrick Stewart started his career as a Shakespearean actor, on a stage instead of in front of a camera, which is (in my opinion) much more difficult than TV/movie actors, for there's no special effects or post production and, most importantly, no second chance if you've made a mistake on stage.

Stage performances require a much higher level of skill, in terms of voice control. I've seen (and barely heard) plenty of film-only actors who couldn't project worth a damn.

dormcat wrote:
Sir_Brass wrote:
debue (sp?)

Debut. It's French.

Début. Wink The accent is supposed to be there in English, too - though most people tend to drop it. Some of us spell it "rôle", not "role", too...

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:45 pm Reply with quote
abunai wrote:
dormcat wrote:
Just remember don't mistake matatabi as catnip. Nyo! Anime catgrin

Matatabi = Actinidia polygama, or silvervine. It looks like this.

*cough* Anime catgrin + sweatdrop (hair balls coming out)

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Some of us are old enough to be recovering from TOS, you young whippersnappers! Grump.

You are not that old.... Mr. Green Okay, I knew you've watched the reruns. I was too young to understand TOS even during its reruns in early '80s. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:52 pm Reply with quote
abunai wrote:

dormcat wrote:
Patrick Stewart started his career as a Shakespearean actor, on a stage instead of in front of a camera, which is (in my opinion) much more difficult than TV/movie actors, for there's no special effects or post production and, most importantly, no second chance if you've made a mistake on stage.

Stage performances require a much higher level of skill, in terms of voice control. I've seen (and barely heard) plenty of film-only actors who couldn't project worth a damn.


I wasn't refering to voice projection, because that's how you get your voice out clearly to a large area, usually filled with lot's of audio absorbtion (aka people). What I'm referring to is voice inflection, tone, etc. Now, I didn't mean ALL screen actors, because I'm sure there are some 2nd rate voice actors who could use their voices to more effect on the sound stage than some B movie screen actors. The screen actors I'm referring to are the more well known and the world class ones (actors like Patrick Stewart, for instance) who are well known in the movie and television business for being quality actors (actors as a neutral noun, not as the masculine. I'm including actresses here), those actors can typically use their voices quite well, which is one reason why they got to be well known.

Bill Shatner's name got around because of his unique use of his voice. Not that it was a very good use (unique, but annoying after a while. and YOU speak of recovering from TOS. I watched TOS as well, but I GREW UP on ST:TNG. I feel your pain Razz), but it was a new use and that got attention. I say this to illustrate that even for screen and television, the ones who get known are usually ones who can SPEAK well as well. Being able to project well is all well and good, but doesn't matter as much when your voice is being recorded by a top notch microphone that's quite close to your face. You only need to clearly project that distance. It's HOW you use your voice that matters greatly. This is why shakespearean actors are so highly considered, because those plays require great command of the voice to get moods, tones, etc. across where today the same things would be done with the orchestral score.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:01 pm Reply with quote
Patrick Stewart is what made Star Trek TNG such a great series with him as the captain. He really knows how to act.

Unlike the guy who is the captain in Star Trek: Enterprise (the same guy who was the main character in Quantum Leap - I hated the way that ended), he just doesn't seem all that natural in the way he acts. He has a tendancy to pause when speaking - not as bad as William Shatner was - but still kinda annoying none the less.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 5:21 pm Reply with quote
I am definitely looking forward to these myself! Having practically enjoyed all the other dubs that Disney has done, I must say that I have no reason to believe they'll mess these ones up. (I have yet to hear a bad one from them.)

February 22 can't get here soon enough!

And for every naysayer there is to the Disney-produced dubs for Miyazaki's works, there are many who jump out in support, including me.

-Jon T.
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