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dtm42
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Group A-1
Light Yagami vs. L, Death Note vs. Blast vs. Trapnest, NANA Light and L These guys are so much better it ain't funny. Group A-2 Brandon Heat vs. Harry McDowell, Gungrave vs. Asuna Kagurazaka vs. Ayaka Yukihiro, Negima franchise Harry and Brandon Another no contest, although I am peeved that many people are voting for the Negima entry because they know it better. All you have to do is give one fleeting thought to Harry and Brandon and the answer is obvious. Group A-3 Dragons of Heaven vs. Dragons of Earth, X TV vs. Sayaka Miki vs. Kyoko Sakura, Puella Magi Madoka Magika Dragons of Heaven and Dragons of Earth I love Puella Magi Madoka Magica to bits, but the rivalry presented there is just not very strong. The show can't win them all. Group A-4 Ichigo Kurosaki vs. Renji Ibari, Bleach vs. Sena Kobayakawa vs. Seijuro Shin, Eyeshield 21 Sena Kobayakawa and Seijuro Shin Renji and Ichigo are only rivals for a short time and then Renji gets demoted out of the main cast as newer allies and adversaries pop up. Honestly, the various Espada and Byakuya all had far superior rivalries with Ichigo than Renji. Group A-5 Spike Spiegel vs. Vicious, Cowboy Bebop vs. Himura Kenshin vs. Aoshi, Ruroni Kenshin Spike and Vicious They aren't all that good - too little screentime together for one thing - but I'm picking them to be slightly better than Kenshin and Aoshi. Group A-6 Humans vs. Shiki, Shiki vs. Utena Tenjou vs. Ohtori Student Council, Revolutionary Girl Utena Utena and Student Council This is unashamedly an anti-Shiki vote. Group A-7 Makoto Mizuhara vs. Katsuhiro Jinnai, El Hazard franchise vs. Togame vs. Princess Hitei, Katanagatari Makoto Mizuhara and Katsuhiro Jinnai A specific spoiler for Katanagatari is the reason behind my vote. Won't get into any more details because, hello, spoilers. Group A-8 Kimimaro Yoga vs. Soichiro Mikuni, C: The Money of Soul. . vs. Team Inuyasha vs. Naraku, Inuyasha franchise Team Inuyasha and Naraku The rivalry between Yoga and Mikuni was so atrociously handled that I'm surprised such a toxic entry made it into the tournament. If I had been paying attention I would have voted against them in the nominations phase. Group A-9 Alucard vs. Alexander Anderson, Hellsing franchise vs. Marionettes vs. Saber Dolls, Saber Marionette J Alucard and Alexander They're just so awesome, and I haven't seen a good argument for Saber Marionette J. Group A-10 Akito Hayami vs. Naozumi Kamura, Kodocha vs. Saki Miyanaga vs. Koromo Amae, Saki Miyanaga and Koromo Amae Both rivalries seem weak (if the Guide entries are anything to go by), so coin toss time. Group A-11 Seishu Prefab Team vs. Coach Daimon, Cross Game vs. Vesper vs. Saint, Mahoromatic: Automatic Maiden Vesper and Saint The other rivalry was too short and was completely inconsequential after a certain point. Plus, Vesper and Saint do sound interesting. Group A-12 San vs. Lady Eboshi, Princess Mononoke vs. Exorcists vs. The Noah, D Gray Man Exorcists and The Noah Not that impressed by Lady Eboshi and San, to be perfectly honest. Group A-13 Shizuo Heiwajima vs. Izaya Orihara, Durarara!! vs. Sekai Saionji vs. Kotonoha Katsura, School Days Sekai Saionji and Kotonoha Katsura Shizuo and Izaya are just so much fun to watch, but they aren't really a great rivalry, especially not when compared to "nice boat". Group A-14 Edward Elric vs. Scar, Fullmetal Alchemist franchise vs. ”Thunder General” Claudette vs. Leina Vance, Queen’s Blade Edward Elric and Scar I am shocked and a little impressed that Queen's Blade seems to have had an actual plot. However, Edward and Scar have a good rivalry, even when spoiler[they eventually work together.] Group A-15 Team Dai-Gurren vs. Anti-Spiral, Gurren Lagann vs. Jomy Marcus Shin vs. Keith Anyan, Toward The Terra franchise Jomy Marcus Shin and Keith Anyan So TTGL has an "epic" war between the two factions. Big whoop. I'll go for a rivalry that actually makes a little more sense. Group A-16 Dark Mousy vs. Krad, D.N. Angel vs. Arika Yumemiya vs. Nina Wang, My-Otome Arika Yumemiya and Nina Wang The other matchup looked a little weak, and I'm a sucker for long and complicated Guide entries. Was that a joke? You decide. |
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nightjuan
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Group A-1
Light Yagami vs. L, Death Note vs. Blast vs. Trapnest, NANA Voting for: Light Yagami vs. L Nothing against Nana, but this is one of those cases where an extremely good argument would be necessary in order to convince me that the Light vs. L rivalry, which was literally the driving force of its respective show, is weaker or otherwise inferior in comparison. Group A-2 Brandon Heat vs. Harry McDowell, Gungrave vs. Asuna Kagurazaka vs. Ayaka Yukihiro, Negima franchise Voting for: Brandon Heat vs. Harry McDowell Going by the guide entry and what I've heard about it before, this one just sounds a lot more interesting. Comedic rivalries aren't too bad in my book but they'll rarely be my first choice throughout this tournament. Group A-3 Dragons of Heaven vs. Dragons of Earth, X TV vs. Sayaka Miki vs. Kyoko Sakura, Puella Magi Madoka Magika Voting for: Sayaka Miki vs. Kyoko Sakura Haven't been in the right mood to watch Madoka yet and my familiarity with all things X-related is rather vague, so I simply flipped a coin and this was the result. Wouldn't particularly mind either outcome though. Group A-4 Ichigo Kurosaki vs. Renji Ibari, Bleach vs. Sena Kobayakawa vs. Seijuro Shin, Eyeshield 21 Voting for: Ichigo Kurosaki vs. Renji Ibari While there have been a few good arguments against this rivalry, I haven't seen too many good arguments in favor of the alternative. Meaning: this is just going to be another semi-random coin toss. Group A-5 Spike Spiegel vs. Vicious, Cowboy Bebop vs. Himura Kenshin vs. Aoshi, Ruroni Kenshin Voting for: Spike Spiegel vs. Vicious Kenshin's and Aoshi's rivalry did give us some of the better episodes of that particular show, which is absolutely worth recognizing at this point in time, but even then I cannot say they are equal or superior to Spike versus Vicious. Group A-6 Humans vs. Shiki, Shiki vs. Utena Tenjou vs. Ohtori Student Council, Revolutionary Girl Utena Voting for: Humans vs. Shiki Now this is a hard one for me. Revolutionary Girl Utena is a much better series than Shiki, no question about that, but...the rivalries involved are essentially restricted to an individual level. The Student Council is ostensibly opposed to Utena and yet never goes out of its way to promote any decisive action against her. It just so happens that its members find their own personal reasons to fight for the power to revolutionize to the world and fulfill their misguided dreams, but such a thing doesn't really count as collective action coming from an overarching organization. No, not even if you were to consider the person who is actually manipulating everything and everyone from behind the scenes. Don't get me wrong. Many of those specific encounters are wonderful to watch, full of emotional intensity and often enjoying some great audiovisual choreography, but they are rather fleeting. In fact, I would even be far more willing to support any of the rivalries between Utena and each of the individual duelists than one between her and a paper-thin organization. On the other hand, Shiki definitely portrayed an interesting example of a central rivalry between more or less active factions and also dealt with a few decent personal animosities along the way. Again, the overall quality of the show can certainly be considered inferior, but...it certainly established a far more impressive standard for rivalries between organized groups of people on a collective level. For that reason, I prefer to give them my vote. Group A-7 Makoto Mizuhara vs. Katsuhiro Jinnai, El Hazard franchise vs. Togame vs. Princess Hitei, Katanagatari Voting for: Togame vs. Princess Hitei While I don't think either one should have too much staying power, I do think this one is relatively unique and worth moving on to the next round, in light of some fairly interesting comments I've read about it. Group A-8 Kimimaro Yoga vs. Soichiro Mikuni, C: The Money of Soul vs. Team Inuyasha vs. Naraku, Inuyasha franchise Voting for: Kimimaro Yoga vs. Soichiro Mikuni Against my better judgement, I'm going with the better concept even if its execution appears to be lacking, at least if what others have already mentioned is true. Then again, I am not particularly concerned about either result here. Group A-9 Alucard vs. Alexander Anderson, Hellsing franchise vs. Marionettes vs. Saber Dolls, Saber Marionette J Voting for: Alucard vs. Alexander Anderson Not going to lie...this is entirely based on style over substance. The alternative wasn't that bad, in all honesty, but not necessarily memorable enough to deserve my vote after all these years either. Group A-10 Akito Hayami vs. Naozumi Kamura, Kodocha vs. Saki Miyanaga vs. Koromo Amae, Saki Voting for: Akito Hayami vs. Naozumi Kamura I'm not really sure about either one, but I'll give my current pick the benefit of the doubt this time. Group A-11 Seishu Prefab Team vs. Coach Daimon, Cross Game vs. Vesper vs. Saint, Mahoromatic: Automatic Maiden Voting for: Vesper vs. Saint While Cross Game still deserves some credit here, I am willing to support what appears to be the rivalry with some of the better arguments at its side. Group A-12 San vs. Lady Eboshi, Princess Mononoke vs. Exorcists vs. The Noah, D Gray Man Voting for: San vs. Lady Eboshi There's practically no contest. I've come to grudgingly respect the concept and execution behind this rivalry, even though I might not necessarily be the biggest fan of its individual components in the grand scheme of things. Group A-13 Shizuo Heiwajima vs. Izaya Orihara, Durarara!! vs. Sekai Saionji vs. Kotonoha Katsura, School Days Voting for: Shizuo Heiwajima vs. Izaya Orihara School Days did have a memorable ending, though not necessarily for a good reason, but I never really considered this to be much of an active rivalry when Kotonoha seemed to be comparatively passive and/or reactive, at least until the final part of the series. There certainly was some degree of competition at one point or another, but it felt like less of an actual fight between two people and more of a situation where their common interest in Makoto inevitably pulled them apart. Their final moments were impressive, no doubt, but I would have wanted to see a different build-up to that instead of what we got. Group A-14 Edward Elric vs. Scar, Fullmetal Alchemist franchise vs. ”Thunder General” Claudette vs. Leina Vance, Queen’s Blade Voting for: Edward Elric vs. Scar Let's just say I haven't heard or seen anything too interesting about Queen's Blade, both in general and in terms of rivalries in particular. Leaving all the ridiculous boobs aside, even the guide entry makes this sound too much "by the book" to hold my interest for long. Regardless, the choice was far too easy. Group A-15 Team Dai-Gurren vs. Anti-Spiral, Gurren Lagann vs. Jomy Marcus Shin vs. Keith Anyan, Toward The Terra franchise Voting for: Team Dai-Gurren vs. Anti-Spiral Part of me really wants to vote for Jomy vs. Keith here, because their conflict does sound interesting enough, but...I think this was probably the better of the two Gurren Lagann rivalries in the tournament and I don't want to overlook that. It was short but definitely very engaging. I appreciated what it actually represented, even before it was formally introduced, and just how far its consequences stretched in the long run, particularly after learning the background behind it. In any event, I feel both are worthy alternatives and either of them would deserve to move on. Group A-16 Dark Mousy vs. Krad, D.N. Angel vs. Arika Yumemiya vs. Nina Wang, My-Otome Voting for: Yumemiya vs. Nina Wang The guide entry makes me laugh a little, but I'll cut it some slack for now, in the absence of any notable opposition. |
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The Naked Beast
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Group A-1
Light Yagami vs. L, Death Note vs. Blast vs. Trapnest, NANA My vote goes to: Light Yagami vs. L. Group A-2 Brandon Heat vs. Harry McDowell, Gungrave vs. Asuna Kagurazaka vs. Ayaka Yukihiro, Negima franchise My vote goes to: Brandon Heat vs. Harry McDowell. Group A-3 Dragons of Heaven vs. Dragons of Earth, X TV vs. Sayaka Miki vs. Kyoko Sakura, Puella Magi Madoka Magika My vote goes to: Sayaka Miki vs. Kyoko Sakura. Group A-4 Ichigo Kurosaki vs. Renji Ibari, Bleach vs. Sena Kobayakawa vs. Seijuro Shin, Eyeshield 21 I enjoyed this rivalry a lot since these two want to surpass each other in terms of speed. They undergo training for their destined "battle." My vote goes to: Sena Kobayakawa vs. Seijuro Shin. Group A-5 Spike Spiegel vs. Vicious, Cowboy Bebop vs. Himura Kenshin vs. Aoshi, Ruroni Kenshin My vote goes to: Spike Spiegel vs. Vicious. Group A-6 Humans vs. Shiki, Shiki vs. Utena Tenjou vs. Ohtori Student Council, Revolutionary Girl Utena My vote goes to: Humans vs. Shiki. Group A-7 Makoto Mizuhara vs. Katsuhiro Jinnai, El Hazard franchise vs. Togame vs. Princess Hitei, Katanagatari My vote goes to: Togame vs. Princess Hitei. Group A-8 Kimimaro Yoga vs. Soichiro Mikuni, C: The Money of Soul. . vs. Team Inuyasha vs. Naraku, Inuyasha franchise My vote goes to: Kimimaro Yoga vs. Soichiro Mikuni. Group A-9 Alucard vs. Alexander Anderson, Hellsing franchise vs. Marionettes vs. Saber Dolls, Saber Marionette J My vote goes to: Alucard vs. Alexander Anderson. Group A-10 Akito Hayami vs. Naozumi Kamura, Kodocha vs. Saki Miyanaga vs. Koromo Amae, Saki My vote goes to: Akito Hayami vs. Naozumi Kamura. Group A-11 [b]Seishu Prefab Team vs. Coach Daimon, Cross Game vs. Vesper vs. Saint, Mahoromatic: Automatic Maiden My vote goes to: Seishu Prefab Team vs. Coach Daimon. Group A-12 San vs. Lady Eboshi, Princess Mononoke vs. Exorcists vs. The Noah, D Gray Man My vote goes to: San vs. Lady Eboshi. Group A-13 Shizuo Heiwajima vs. Izaya Orihara, Durarara!! vs. Sekai Saionji vs. Kotonoha Katsura, School Days My vote goes to: Shizuo Heiwajima vs. Izaya Orihara. Group A-14 Edward Elric vs. Scar, Fullmetal Alchemist franchise vs. ”Thunder General” Claudette vs. Leina Vance, Queen’s Blade My vote goes to: Edward Elric vs. Scar. Group A-15 Team Dai-Gurren vs. Anti-Spiral, Gurren Lagann vs. Jomy Marcus Shin vs. Keith Anyan, Toward The Terra franchise My vote goes to: Team Dai-Gurren vs. Anti-Spiral. Group A-16 Dark Mousy vs. Krad, D.N. Angel vs. Arika Yumemiya vs. Nina Wang, My-Otome My vote goes to: Dark Mousy vs. Krad. I am using my phone to vote. When I at my laptop, I will clean up my votes. EDIT My votes have been edited for clarity and aesthetics. I was at an exciting baseball game that went on for 14 innings which resulted in my sloppy voting. I enjoyed every moment of the game as it went into the late night hours. It did suck majorly that my home team lost the game in the end. Last edited by The Naked Beast on Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:41 am; edited 2 times in total |
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Crisha
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Okay, quick vote time!
Group A-1 Light Yagami vs. L, Death Note I so did not want to vote for this team, just out of spite for the series. But even I recognized their powermatch, and decided to not let petty childishness get in the way of a deserving vote. Group A-2 Brandon Heat vs. Harry McDowell, Gungrave Group A-3 Dragons of Heaven vs. Dragons of Earth, X TV Group A-4 Sena Kobayakawa vs. Seijuro Shin, Eyeshield 21 Group A-5 Spike Spiegel vs. Vicious, Cowboy Bebop Group A-6 Humans vs. Shiki, Shiki For a series to strike up such a heated debate on these forums on this exact match-up in a confrontation of ideologies and who was the bigger monster... I think that deserves at least a pass to the next round. This battle for survival ended up disturbing me as well because I could sympathize with both sides. Group A-7 Togame vs. Princess Hitei, Katanagatari Group A-8 Team Inuyasha vs. Naraku, Inuyasha franchise Group A-9 Alucard vs. Alexander Anderson, Hellsing franchise Group A-10 Saki Miyanaga vs. Koromo Amae, Saki Group A-11 Seishu Prefab Team vs. Coach Daimon, Cross Game Group A-12 San vs. Lady Eboshi, Princess Mononoke Group A-13 Shizuo Heiwajima vs. Izaya Orihara, Durarara!! Group A-14 Edward Elric vs. Scar, Fullmetal Alchemist franchise Group A-15 Team Dai-Gurren vs. Anti-Spiral, Gurren Lagann I feel really bad with this vote, I do, because I love both series and the rivalries in both. But, in the end, GL left a stronger impression on me. I remember the ending to Toward the Terra and what became of the two, and a few scenes here and there between Jomy and Keith, but I can't really recall it like I can GL. Group A-16 Arika Yumemiya vs. Nina Wang, My-Otome |
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Key
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Round 1 Group A is now closed.
With a disturbingly low 21 votes in, the results: A-1: Light Yagami vs. L stomped Blast/Trapnest, 20-1 A-2: Brandon Heat vs. Harry McDowell over Asuna/Ayaka, 15-6 A-3: Dragons of Heaven vs. Earth over Sayaka vs. Kyoko, 15-6 A-4: Ichigo vs. Renji edges Sena/Seijiro, 11-10 A-5: Spike vs. Vicious blows out Kenshin/Aoshi, 20-1 A-6: Humans vs. Shiki by a nose (fang?) over Utena/Student Council, 11-10 A-7: Togame vs. Hitei eliminates Makoto/Katsuhiro, 16-5 A-8: Team Inuyasha vs. Naraku defeats Kimimaro/Soichiro, 13-8 A-9: Alucard vs. Alexander Anderson obliterates Marionettes/Saber Dolls, 20-1 A-10: Akito vs. Naozumi defeats Saki/Koromo, 12-9 A-11: Seishu Prefab vs. Coach Daimon over Vesper/SAINT, 15-6 A-12: San vs. Lady Eboshi eliminates Exorcists/Noah, 16-5 A-13: Shizuo vs. Izaya beats Sekai/Kotonoha, 14-7 A-14: Edward Elric vs. Scar blows out Claudette/Leina 21-0 FLAWLESS VICTORY A-15: Team Dai-Gurren vs. Anti-Spiral nicks Jomy/Keith, 11-10 A-16: Arika Yumemiya vs. Nina Wang outduel Dark Mousy/Krad, 14-7 So we had four complete blow-outs and three single-vote matches, two of which were decided on the final vote. I really thought Jomy Marcus Shin vs. Keith Anyan was going to hold on to register the upset for a while there, but the GL rivalry took the last three votes for a come-from-behind win. Have to wonder if the fact that GL is ten times as popular as TtT might have had some influence on that one. Anyway, next Group will be up very shortly. |
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Key
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Round 1 Group B is now closed.
Results can be found here. This one, I'm guessing, will have fewer absolute blow-outs. I also see some potentially very intriguing early match-ups here, especially B-16. Here we go! Group B-1 Digidestined vs. Myotismon, Digimon Adventures vs. Nemo vs. Gargoyle, Nadia: Secret of the Blue Waters Group B-2 Sailor Scouts vs. Queen Beryl, Sailor Moon vs. Kira Yamato vs. Athrun Zala, Gundam SEED Group B-3 Le Secret du Roi vs. Revolutionary Brethren, Le Chevalier d’Eon vs. Nanoha Takamachi vs. Fate Testarossa, Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Group B-4 Naruto Uzumaki vs. Sasuke Uchiha, Naruto franchise vs. Shunan vs. Nugan, The Beast Player Erin Group B-5 Mink vs. Veena, Dragon Half vs. Science Ninja Team Gatchaman vs. Galactor, Science Ninja Team Gatchaman Group B-6 Goku vs. Vegeta, Dragon Ball Z vs. Miki Onimaru vs. Megumi Kannazuki, Ramen Fighter Miki Group B-7 Nabuca vs. Shu, Now and Then, Here and There vs. Kyoko Mogami vs. Sho Fuwa, Skip Beat! Group B-8 Inuyasha vs. Koga, Inuyasha franchise vs. Zatch Bell vs. Brago, Zatch Bell Group B-9 Lelouch Lamperouge vs. Suzaku Kurugi, Code Geass vs. Tamahome vs. Nakago, Fushigi Yugi Group B-10 Noir vs. Soldats, Noir vs. Sinon Kozuki vs. Dui Elroy, Starship Operators Group B-11 Kenji Harima vs. Haruki Hanai, School Rumble vs. Nanoha Takamachi vs. Vita, Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A Group B-12 Capulets vs. Lord Montague, Romeo x Juliet vs. Chika Akatsuki vs. Shito Tachibana, Zombie Loan Group B-13 Inuyasha vs. Sesshomaru, Inuyasha franchise vs. Ban and Ginji vs. Dr. Jackal, Get Backers Group B-14 Love Machine vs. Kenji Koiso and the Jinnouchis, Summer Wars vs. Speed Racer vs. Racer X, Speed Racer Group B-15 Ouran High School Host Club vs. Zuka Club, Ouran High School Host Club vs. Three Goddesses vs. Mara, Ah!/Oh My Goddess franchise Group B-16 Amuro Ray vs. Char Aznable, Mobile Suit Gundam vs. Saya vs. Diva, Blood+ Last edited by Key on Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:42 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Why did the round end at 11pm? Isn't Indianapolis on Central time too? I'll have to remember that, I thought the last tournament I always had until Midnite local time to get my votes in. I voted a couple days ago anyway and I probably won't procrastinate as much also.
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LydiaDianne
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This is going to be a very interesting Group. It will be interesting to see how it all end up.
Group B-1 Digidestined vs. Myotismon, Digimon Adventures i] Group B-2 Sailor Scouts vs. Queen Beryl, Sailor Moon Group B-3 Nanoha Takamachi vs. Fate Testarossa, Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha I'm going have to go with Nanoha vs. Fate for this round because there really is nothing worse than two people who really want the same thing and have the same beliefs to have to fight each other. Group B-4 Naruto Uzumaki vs. Sasuke Uchiha, Naruto franchise Group B-5 Science Ninja Team Gatchaman vs. Galactor, Science Ninja Team Gatchaman Group B-6 Miki Onimaru vs. Megumi Kannazuki, Ramen Fighter Miki Group B-7 Nabuca vs. Shu, Now and Then, Here and There I believe one or both of these young men where in another tournament. They seem like they could be somewhat similar to Fate and Nanoha but their experiences have led them down very different paths and from which one of them perhaps will never be able to recover from. I need to watch this series just to see what happens to both. Group B-8 Inuyasha vs. Koga, Inuyasha franchise Inuyasha and Koga are both idiots but I think that they have the best rivalry here. Probably because they are too much alike and are unwilling to admit it. Group B-9 Lelouch Lamperouge vs. Suzaku Kurugi, Code Geass vs. Tamahome vs. Makago, Fushigi Yugi Nakago is one of the biggest A-holes I've come across in anime. The way he treated the people who were on his side...but I'm going to have to go with Lelouch vs. Suzaku because they are working for almost the same thing but they have chosen very different ways for doing so. Group B-10 Noir vs. Soldats, Noir Group B-11 Nanoha Takamachi vs. Vita, Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A Group B-12 Capulets vs. Lord Montague, Romeo x Juliet Group B-13 Inuyasha vs. Sesshomaru, Inuyasha franchise vs. Ban and Ginji vs. Dr. Jackal, Get Backers This is another hard one to decide. I don't really want to decide but I'm going to have to go with Ban and Ginji vs. Dr. Jackal because they COULD work together if they had to. Group B-14 Love Machine vs. Kenji Koiso and the Jinnouchis, Summer Wars Group B-15 Ouran High School Host Club vs. Zuka Club, Ouran High School Host Club Group B-16 Amuro Ray vs. Char Aznable, Mobile Suit Gundam There were difficult decisions to be made this round. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people take their time with this one...I would but I don't want to forget to vote! 
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Group B-1
Digidestined vs. Myotismon, Digimon Adventures vs. Nemo vs. Gargoyle, Nadia: Secret of the Blue Waters Myotismon vs. the Digidestined Group B-2 Sailor Scouts vs. Queen Beryl, Sailor Moon vs. Kira Yamato vs. Athrun Zala, Gundam SEED Sailor Scouts vs. Queen Beryl Group B-3 Le Secret du Roi vs. Revolutionary Brethren, Le Chevalier d’Eon vs. Nanoha Takamachi vs. Fate Testarossa, Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Le Secret du Roi vs. The Revolutionary Brethren I really like the Nanoha/Fate rivalry and the way their clashes really force Nanoha to step up her game, but their rivalry was fairly short-lived and forced by the situation. The Secret du Roi/Revolutionary Brethren rivalry on the other hand is an ideological duel of wits, swords and espionage for the future of France. Group B-4 Naruto Uzumaki vs. Sasuke Uchiha, Naruto franchise vs. Shunan vs. Nugan, The Beast Player Erin Naruto vs. Sasuke love 'em or hate 'em they still have an epic rivalry. Group B-5 Mink vs. Veena, Dragon Half vs. Science Ninja Team Gatchaman vs. Galactor, Science Ninja Team Gatchaman Mink vs. Veena Group B-6 Goku vs. Vegeta, Dragon Ball Z vs. Miki Onimaru vs. Megumi Kannazuki, Ramen Fighter Miki Goku vs. Vegeta Group B-7 Nabuca vs. Shu, Now and Then, Here and There vs. Kyoko Mogami vs. Sho Fuwa, Skip Beat! Nabuca vs. Shu I'm really depressed that I have to vote against Kyoko vs. Sho in the first round, but it can't be helped considering the opposition. Group B-8 Inuyasha vs. Koga, Inuyasha franchise vs. Zatch Bell vs. Brago, Zatch Bell Inuyasha vs. Koga Dang it, I nominated both of these 
Group B-9 Lelouch Lamperouge vs. Suzaku Kurugi, Code Geass vs. Tamahome vs. Nakago, Fushigi Yugi Lelouch vs. Suzaku Group B-10 Noir vs. Soldats, Noir vs. Sinon Kozuki vs. Dui Elroy, Starship Operators Noir vs. Soldats Group B-11 Kenji Harima vs. Haruki Hanai, School Rumble vs. Nanoha Takamachi vs. Vita, Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A Nanoha vs. Vita Group B-12 Capulets vs. Lord Montague, Romeo x Juliet vs. Chika Akatsuki vs. Shito Tachibana, Zombie Loan Capulets vs. Lord Montague Even though I haven't seen Romeo x Juliet and I have seen Zombie Loan, I'm voting for Capulets vs. Lord Montague because their rivalry sounds much more intense and intricate, while Chika and Shito just have conflicting personalities. Group B-13 Inuyasha vs. Sesshomaru, Inuyasha franchise vs. Ban and Ginji vs. Dr. Jackal, Get Backers Inuyasha vs. Sesshomaru Group B-14 Love Machine vs. Kenji Koiso and the Jinnouchis, Summer Wars vs. Speed Racer vs. Racer X, Speed Racer Love Machine vs. Kenji Koiso and the Jinnouchis Group B-15 Ouran High School Host Club vs. Zuka Club, Ouran High School Host Club vs. Three Goddesses vs. Mara, Ah!/Oh My Goddess franchise Ouran High School Host Club vs. Zuka Club Group B-16 Amuro Ray vs. Char Aznable, Mobile Suit Gundam vs. Saya vs. Diva, Blood+[/quote] Saya vs. Diva Also Key B-9 says Tamahome vs. Makago, but it should be Nakago, with an 'N'. |
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Key
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Parts of NW and SW Indiana are in CST, but most of the state (including the Indianapolis area) is in EST. We don't switch time zones when DST is in effect like we did up until just a short while ago, either. |
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Group B-1
Digidestined vs. Myotismon, Digimon Adventures vs. Nemo vs. Gargoyle, Nadia: Secret of the Blue Waters Digidestined vs. Myotismon Group B-2 Sailor Scouts vs. Queen Beryl, Sailor Moon vs. Kira Yamato vs. Athrun Zala, Gundam SEED Sailor Scouts vs. Queen Beryl Group B-3 Le Secret du Roi vs. Revolutionary Brethren, Le Chevalier d’Eon vs. Nanoha Takamachi vs. Fate Testarossa, Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Le Secret du Roi vs. Revolutionary Brethren Group B-4 Naruto Uzumaki vs. Sasuke Uchiha, Naruto franchise vs. Shunan vs. Nugan, The Beast Player Erin The rivalry between Naruto and Sasuke falls flat for me, because the only character that I found likeable and cared about was Shikamaru. Naruto is too obnoxious and I don't understand what is so great about Sasuke. That, of course, means I don't find their rivalry intense or entertaining in the slightest. But leaving my personal dislike for Naruto aside. The escalating conflict between Shunan vs. Nugan is well-handled, dramatic and entertaining from the beginning up to its tragic resolution. And it satisfies the remaining criteria. They are duke's sons, so they are actively involved in the struggle for power which plays a prominent role in the later part of the show. That's enough for me to vote for them rather than for Naruto and Sasuke, whose conflict I find unremarkable and lacklustre. Group B-5 Mink vs. Veena, Dragon Half vs. Science Ninja Team Gatchaman vs. Galactor, Science Ninja Team Gatchaman Science Ninja Team Gatchaman vs. Galactor Group B-6 Goku vs. Vegeta, Dragon Ball Z vs. Miki Onimaru vs. Megumi Kannazuki, Ramen Fighter Miki Goku vs. Vegeta Group B-7 Nabuca vs. Shu, Now and Then, Here and There vs. Kyoko Mogami vs. Sho Fuwa, Skip Beat! Nabuca vs. Shu Group B-8 Inuyasha vs. Koga, Inuyasha franchise vs. Zatch Bell vs. Brago, Zatch Bell Inuyasha vs. Koga Group B-9 Lelouch Lamperouge vs. Suzaku Kurugi, Code Geass vs. Tamahome vs. Makago, Fushigi Yugi Lelouch Lamperouge vs. Suzaku Kurugi Group B-10 Noir vs. Soldats, Noir vs. Sinon Kozuki vs. Dui Elroy, Starship Operators Noir vs. Soldats Group B-11 Kenji Harima vs. Haruki Hanai, School Rumble vs. Nanoha Takamachi vs. Vita, Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A Kenji Harima vs. Haruki Hanai Group B-12 Capulets vs. Lord Montague, Romeo x Juliet vs. Chika Akatsuki vs. Shito Tachibana, Zombie Loan Capulets vs. Lord Montague Group B-13 Inuyasha vs. Sesshomaru, Inuyasha franchise vs. Ban and Ginji vs. Dr. Jackal, Get Backers Inuyasha vs. Sesshomaru Group B-14 Love Machine vs. Kenji Koiso and the Jinnouchis, Summer Wars vs. Speed Racer vs. Racer X, Speed Racer Love Machine vs. Kenji Koiso and the Jinnouchis Group B-15 Ouran High School Host Club vs. Zuka Club, Ouran High School Host Club vs. Three Goddesses vs. Mara, Ah!/Oh My Goddess franchise Ouran High School Host Club vs. Zuka Club Group B-16 Amuro Ray vs. Char Aznable, Mobile Suit Gundam vs. Saya vs. Diva, Blood+ Saya vs. Diva Last edited by Aylinn on Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:56 am; edited 2 times in total |
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Match B-1: Digidestined vs Myotismon (Digimon franchise)
Nemo vs Gargoyle's an interesting rivalry coming from Nadia. But the Digidestined/ Myotismon rivalry went on for two seasons of the show, had more at risk with two worlds on the line and Myotismon being the more difficult foe for both Digidestined generations to take out. Match B-2: Sailor Scouts vs Queen Beryl (Sailor Moon) Never will forget this being the first ongoing anime rivalry I seen from anime when the series aired on syndicated TV back in the mid-1990s. Match B-3: Le Secret du Roi vs Revolutionary Brethren (Le Chevalier d'Eon) Match B-4: Naruto Uzumaki vs Sasuke Uchiha (Naruto) Love or hate the series, Naruto and Sasuke's rivalry is currently one of the prominent rivalries taking place with the ongoing shounen action anime franchises. Match B-5: Gatchaman vs Galactor (Gatchaman) Match B-6: Goku vs Vegeta (Dragon Ball Z) Much as I want to purge all memory of the series, Goku/ Vegeta was one of the first major anime rivalries I got to see and this feud sticks out as the most prominent throughout the Dragon Ball franchise, even when the two eventually become allies. Match B-7: Nabuca vs Shu (Now and Then, Here and There) Match B-8: Inuyasha vs Koga (Inuyasha) Match B-9: Lelouch Lamperogue vs Suzaku Kurugi (Code Geass) Match B-10: Noir vs Soldats (Noir) Match B-11: Kenji Harima vs Haruki Hanai (School Rumble) One of the comedic highlights I got out of School Rumble came from these two goofballs going against one another with Hanai completely misunderstanding Harima's relationship with Yakumo. Match B-12: Chika Akatsuki vs Shito Tachibana (Zombie-Loan) I'm anticipating this match being a squash in favor of the Romeo x Juliet rivalry. So this is more of both a mercy vote and support for a rivalry I nominated. Match B-13: Inuyasha vs Sesshomaru (Inuyasha) Match B-14: Love Machine vs Kenji Koiso and the Jinnouchis (Summer Wars) From what I remember of Speed Racer as a kid, Racer X was mostly around to support Speed whenever the baddie in a race was attempting to sabotage Speed's efforts to win a race with no competitive rivalry between the two. Match B-15: Three Goddesses vs Mara (Oh My Goddess franchise) The Ouran/ Zuka Club rivalry is a minor one considering it only takes up two episodes within the show. Meanwhile in OMG, I definitely recall frequent occasions of Mara popping up to be a thorn in the side of Keiichi and the three goddesses. I've only seen the first season of the 2000s TV remake of the series, but the description for the rivalry is pretty weak in conveying just how much of a nuisance Mara was to Keiichi and company and I can definitely remark on enough points of their rivalry that I recall from the first season that make them better over the Ouran/ Zuka rivalry. I'll get to pitching an argument in favor of the rivalry later since I'm traveling abroad at the moment. Match B-16: Saya vs Diva (Blood+) |
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Group B-1
Digidestined vs. Myotismon, Digimon Adventures vs. Nemo vs. Gargoyle, Nadia: Secret of the Blue Waters I can't really judge this one well because I haven't seen either series (the latter is one of only three that I own but have never watched) and neither of the Guide entries is particularly compelling. I'll go with Digidestined vs. Myotismon because it seemed to have more support in the Nominations phase. Group B-2 Sailor Scouts vs. Queen Beryl, Sailor Moon vs. Kira Yamato vs. Athrun Zala, Gundam SEED Another difficult one to judge. Sailor Moon vs. Beryl was one of the defining adversarial relationships in its series, but so was Kira vs. Athrun in the first SEED series. I find friends that are forced by circumstance to become enemies to be particularly intriguing, so I will give the edge to Kira vs. Athrun - although I don't expect them to win. Group B-3 Le Secret du Roi vs. Revolutionary Brethren, Le Chevalier d’Eon vs. Nanoha Takamachi vs. Fate Testarossa, Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Simple choice here. I know Le Chevalier well and know that Le Secret du Roi vs. Revolutionary Brethren is a solid, series-defining rivalry. Group B-4 Naruto Uzumaki vs. Sasuke Uchiha, Naruto franchise vs. Shunan vs. Nugan, The Beast Player Erin Shunan vs. Nugan may have its merits, but Naruto vs. Sasuke is one of the elite of all shonen action rivalries. It is simply too well-established and well-developed to be beaten by any less than a top-rate competitor. Group B-5 Mink vs. Veena, Dragon Half vs. Science Ninja Team Gatchaman vs. Galactor, Science Ninja Team Gatchaman Go with the fun one or the classic one? Gatchaman vs. Galactor gets my vote here. Group B-6 Goku vs. Vegeta, Dragon Ball Z vs. Miki Onimaru vs. Megumi Kannazuki, Ramen Fighter Miki The RFM one sounds interesting, but Goku vs. Vegeta is the strongest of the DB franchise rivalries and one of the defining shonen action rivalries in general. Group B-7 Nabuca vs. Shu, Now and Then, Here and There vs. Kyoko Mogami vs. Sho Fuwa, Skip Beat! I've seen enough of SB to know how that rivalry came out, and it's simply not in the same league as Nabuca vs. Shu. Few rivalries in anime reflect starker ideological differences or do it in a more gut-wrenching manner. Group B-8 Inuyasha vs. Koga, Inuyasha franchise vs. Zatch Bell vs. Brago, Zatch Bell While I find Inuyasha vs. Koga to be the weakest of the three Inuyasha entries, it's still unquestionably a bitter rivalry, one fraught with hurled insults, jealousy, and a desire to settle things via battle on both sides. These are two guys who really, really don't like each other. Group B-9 Lelouch Lamperouge vs. Suzaku Kurugi, Code Geass vs. Tamahome vs. Makago, Fushigi Yugi I don't see Lelouch vs. Suzaku as a top contender, but when relations break down between them, it does get plenty ugly enough to justify them winning at least one round. Group B-10 Noir vs. Soldats, Noir vs. Sinon Kozuki vs. Dui Elroy, Starship Operators In this case I do know both participants well, and while I voted for Sinon vs. Dui in the Nominations phase, they are a marginal inclusion. Noir vs. Soldats is not. They should win in a blow-out. Group B-11 Kenji Harima vs. Haruki Hanai, School Rumble vs. Nanoha Takamachi vs. Vita, Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A Coin flip time! Kenji vs. Haruki sounds slightly more interesting. Group B-12 Capulets vs. Lord Montague, Romeo x Juliet vs. Chika Akatsuki vs. Shito Tachibana, Zombie Loan The ZL duo sounds like a marginal inclusion. Capulets vs. Lord Montague, however, is a full-blown blood feud with powerful motivations on both sides. Group B-13 Inuyasha vs. Sesshomaru, Inuyasha franchise vs. Ban and Ginji vs. Dr. Jackal, Get Backers Inuyasha vs. Sesshomaru is one of the most intense and well-developed of all sibling rivalries in anime. That's enough to get my vote. Group B-14 Love Machine vs. Kenji Koiso and the Jinnouchis, Summer Wars vs. Speed Racer vs. Racer X, Speed Racer Interesting choice here. I'm going with Speed Racer vs. Racer X because I never quite got a true sense of rivalry from the Summer Wars entry. Group B-15 Ouran High School Host Club vs. Zuka Club, Ouran High School Host Club vs. Three Goddesses vs. Mara, Ah!/Oh My Goddess franchise Very interesting choice. The Goddesses/Mara "rivalry" is being given more credit here than it deserves, however, so OHSHC vs. Zuka Club it is. Group B-16 Amuro Ray vs. Char Aznable, Mobile Suit Gundam vs. Saya vs. Diva, Blood+ This is, I think , the trickiest one to pick. Saya vs. Diva is a worthy choice to advance a round or two, as it is one of those rivalries which steadily builds in strength as the series progresses and certainly isn't lacking in the late stages. Amuro vs. Char is anime's defining "ace pilot" rivalry, however, and has influenced innumerable mecha titles which have come since then. One could argue, with some merit, that the Gundam franchise is the enduring behemoth that it is in part because of this rivalry. |
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Group B-1
Digidestined vs. Myotismon, Digimon Adventures vs. Nemo vs. Gargoyle, Nadia: Secret of the Blue Waters Digidestined vs. Myotismon Group B-2 Sailor Scouts vs. Queen Beryl, Sailor Moon vs. Kira Yamato vs. Athrun Zala, Gundam SEED Yamato vs. Athrun Zala Group B-3 Le Secret du Roi vs. Revolutionary Brethren, Le Chevalier d’Eon vs. Nanoha Takamachi vs. Fate Testarossa, Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Nanoha Takamachi vs. Fate Testarossa Group B-4 Naruto Uzumaki vs. Sasuke Uchiha, Naruto franchise vs. Shunan vs. Nugan, The Beast Player Erin Shunan vs. Nugan- They don't stand a chance against Naruto- but I still think their rivalry is worth giving them a vote here. The rivalry is between two different philosophies- that of trying to rebel against unfair rules of the society set up centuries ago and love for tradition, even at the cost of always being humiliated. A choice between individualism (Shunan) and sacrifice for the sake of upholding and artificial peace (Nugan). Group B-5 Mink vs. Veena, Dragon Half vs. Science Ninja Team Gatchaman vs. Galactor, Science Ninja Team Gatchaman Science Ninja Team Gatchaman vs. Galactor Group B-6 Goku vs. Vegeta, Dragon Ball Z vs. Miki Onimaru vs. Megumi Kannazuki, Ramen Fighter Miki Goku vs. Vegeta Group B-7 Nabuca vs. Shu, Now and Then, Here and There vs. Kyoko Mogami vs. Sho Fuwa, Skip Beat! Nabuca vs. Shu I love Kyoko vs Sho rivaly- it's crazy and fun, but for the most part of the series, Sho is unaware of it, which makes it a lot less intense, unlike the Nabuca and Shu's one. Group B-8 Inuyasha vs. Koga, Inuyasha franchise vs. Zatch Bell vs. Brago, Zatch Bell Inuyasha vs. Koga Group B-9 Lelouch Lamperouge vs. Suzaku Kurugi, Code Geass vs. Tamahome vs. Makago, Fushigi Yugi Lelouch Lamperouge vs. Suzaku Kurugi Group B-10 Noir vs. Soldats, Noir vs. Sinon Kozuki vs. Dui Elroy, Starship Operators Noir vs. Soldats Group B-11 Kenji Harima vs. Haruki Hanai, School Rumble vs. Nanoha Takamachi vs. Vita, Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A Nanoha Takamachi vs. Vita Group B-12 Capulets vs. Lord Montague, Romeo x Juliet vs. Chika Akatsuki vs. Shito Tachibana, Zombie Loan Capulets vs. Lord Montague Group B-13 Inuyasha vs. Sesshomaru, Inuyasha franchise vs. Ban and Ginji vs. Dr. Jackal, Get Backers Inuyasha vs. Sesshomaru Group B-14 Love Machine vs. Kenji Koiso and the Jinnouchis, Summer Wars vs. Speed Racer vs. Racer X, Speed Racer Love Machine vs. Kenji Koiso and the Jinnouchis Group B-15 Ouran High School Host Club vs. Zuka Club, Ouran High School Host Club vs. Three Goddesses vs. Mara, Ah!/Oh My Goddess franchise Ouran High School Host Club vs. Zuka Club Group B-16 Amuro Ray vs. Char Aznable, Mobile Suit Gundam vs. Saya vs. Diva, Blood+[/quote] Saya vs. Diva |
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