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Generic #757858
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Group C-17
Kino, Kino’s Journey vs. Letopanyu Spoor, Crest/Banner of the Stars franchise Letopanyu Spoor. Quite different characters and I'd love to see them both go at least a few more rounds, but ultimately I prefer Spoor flashiness and screen dominance over Kino's sometimes overtly neutral and subdued personality. Group C-18 Allen Schezar, Escaflowne franchise vs. Medicine Seller, Ayakashi, Mononoke Medicine Seller. More a vote against Allen, since the later events in the show make it hard for me to root for him. And hey, at least the Medicine Seller looks cool. Group C-19 Yuuko Ichihara, xxxHolic, Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle vs. The Count, Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo The Count. For now, though I think his flaws will really start to hurt him in the later rounds. Group C-20 Nicholas Wolfwood, Trigun vs. Taichi Keaton, Master Keaton Taichi Keaton Group C-21 Akira Tokizawa Eden of the East vs. Fee Carmichal, Planetes Fee Carmichal. Going with what I know and Fee certainly was the coolest character in her show. Group C-22 Kyouraku Shunsui, Bleach vs. Rin Tohsaka, Fate/stay night vs. Roy Focker, Super Dimensional Fortress Macross/Robotech Roy Focker. Previous arguments against Kyoraku didn't make him seem particularly impressive and I will never vote for Rin, so I guess Roy's old school cool wins him this round. Group C-23 November 11, Darker Than BLACK vs. Utena Tenjou, Revolutionary Girl Utena Utena Tenjou Group C-24 Reinhard von Lohengramm Legend of the Galactic Heroes vs. Roger Smith, The Big O Roger Smith Last edited by Generic #757858 on Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:37 am; edited 1 time in total |
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marie-antoinette
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Group C-17
Voting for: Letopanyu Spoor, Crest/Banner of the Stars franchise Reasons: She just sounds like the character I would like more of the two. I know Kino has a lot of support but I haven't seen any great arguments to sway me her way. Group C-18 Voting for: Medicine Seller, Ayakashi, Mononoke Reasons: Allen is fairly cool but not a heavy contender here. Group C-19 Voting for: The Count, Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo Reasons: Easiest vote of the group. I still don't think Yuuko deserves to be here at all because cryptic bs =/ being cool. Yes, I'm exaggerating a bit and I do actually like her as a character ... sometimes. But her comic relief moments severely undercut any cool factor she could have and really leave me rolling my eyes and sighing at her. In contrast, The Count is awesome and suave and there is not a shred of doubt in my mind that he should and will do well here. Group C-20 Voting for: Nicholas Wolfwood, Trigun Group C-21 Voting for: Akira Tokizawa Eden of the East Group C-22 Voting for: Kyouraku Shunsui, Bleach Group C-23 Voting for: November 11, Darker Than BLACK Reasons: If the resident shoujo expert, LydiaDianne, is voting against Utena, I have no choice but to do the same. Group C-24 Voting for: Roger Smith, The Big O |
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AbyssalOne
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There are a lot of tough matches this round, although that might be due to some unfamiliarity on my part.
Group C-17 Kino, Kino’s Journey vs. Letopanyu Spoor, Crest/Banner of the Stars franchise Vote for: Spoor Spoor seems to stand out more in the framework of her series and thus has a more active sense of "cool." Still, the margin of her win is still pretty narrow for me. Group C-18 Allen Schezar, Escaflowne franchise vs. Medicine Seller, Ayakashi, Mononoke Vote for: Medicine Seller I'll give the nod to the enigmatic, immortal, demon-slaying elf-man over the fairly straightforward heroic mecha pilot. Group C-19 Yuuko Ichihara, xxxHolic, Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle vs. The Count, Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo Vote for: The Count All the ladies want him. All the men envy him. Joji Nakata at his second finest. Group C-20 Nicholas Wolfwood, Trigun vs. Taichi Keaton, Master Keaton Vote for: Wolfwood I'll admit to having limited knowledge on Keaton's show, so I am definitely willing to change my vote here. Group C-21 Akira Tokizawa Eden of the East vs. Fee Carmichal, Planetes Vote for: Akira To a certain extent Fee gets hemmed in by the realistic nature of her show, preventing her from doing the awesome things that Akira accomplishes; yet Akira's attitude is aloof and eccentric enough that I'm willing to give him this one. Group C-22 Kyouraku Shunsui, Bleach vs. Rin Tohsaka, Fate/stay night vs. Roy Focker, Super Dimensional Fortress Macross/Robotech Vote for: Roy Focker Group C-23 November 11, Darker Than BLACK vs. Utena Tenjou, Revolutionary Girl Utena Vote for: November 11 Group C-24 Reinhard von Lohengramm Legend of the Galactic Heroes vs. Roger Smith, The Big O Vote for: Reinhard |
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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Couple of upsets this round with Faye and Lelouch going down. Lelouch was even the top mini-game pick to win his quarter of the bracket in the next round. Eboshi vs. Nana could be interesting next round.
Anyway, results. Olliff regained what little lead he lost last round. Overall results were average for a second round bracket. |
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Errinundra
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Difficult round for me. There aren’t any match-ups where I’m familiar with both characters in the match-ups. So, in some cases I’m going on what little knowledge I have and the arguments in the summaries.
Group C-17 Kino, Kino’s Journey vs. Letopanyu Spoor, Crest/Banner of the Stars franchise The arguments for Spoor haven’t convinced me. Kino never, ever loses her cool. Group C-18 Allen Schezar, Escaflowne franchise vs. Medicine Seller, Ayakashi, Mononoke Of these two, I’ve only seen the first episode of The Vision of Escaflowne. Based on the arguments provided, Medicine Seller comes across as the more intriguing character. Group C-19 Yuuko Ichihara, xxxHolic, Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle vs. The Count, Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo The Count: If and when the Count loses, it will be against a formidable opponent. Nothing has convinced me so far that Yuuko Ichihara meets the grade. Group C-20 Nicholas Wolfwood, Trigun vs. Taichi Keaton, Master Keaton In a weak series, Nicholas Wolfwood stood out as easily the most interesting character. In a stronger show he would be overshadowed. Going by the series trailers Master Keaton comes across as the superior entry. Mind you, I’ve never been convinced to watch the series so I guess the gap between the two is narrow. Group C-21 Akira Tokizawa Eden of the East vs. Fee Carmichal, Planetes I’ve seen Planetes and the first episode of Eden of the East. That first episode hasn’t encouraged me to watch the series, so Akira clearly wasn’t cool enough. I agree with Generic #757858 that Fee Carmichael is the coolest of a bunch of mostly uncool workmates but, again, she isn’t the strongest candidate in the tourmament. Group C-22 Kyouraku Shunsui, Bleach vs. Rin Tohsaka, Fate/stay night vs. Roy Focker, Super Dimensional Fortress Macross/Robotech Rin Tohsaka: When you’re suffering from massive blood loss and you can slowly, calmly and methodically explain to someone as obtuse as Shirou Emiya what he must do next, well… that is the epitome of cool to me. ”There are a few things I think you should do.” Group C-23 November 11, Darker Than BLACK vs. Utena Tenjou, Revolutionary Girl Utena Utena because she transformed anime and that’s cool. Group C-24 Reinhard von Lohengramm Legend of the Galactic Heroes vs. Roger Smith, The Big O Roger Smith because tomatoes rule. Last edited by Errinundra on Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:46 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Mylene
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What about this resident shoujo expert's opinion? Group C-17 Kino, Kino’s Journey Group C-18 Allen Schezar, Escaflowne franchise Group C-19 Yuuko Ichihara, xxxHolic, Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle Group C-20 Taichi Keaton, Master Keaton Group C-21 Akira Tokizawa Eden of the East Group C-22 Rin Tohsaka, Fate/stay night Group C-23 Utena Tenjou, Revolutionary Girl Utena When it comes to general cool, for me, breaking boundaries is a major component. A typical little girl, when rescued from heartache and loss (her parents had just died) by a handsome prince who kisses her and gives her a ring, will often dream of finding that prince and marrying him one day. Not Tenjou Utena. No, she dwells on that feeling of being helped, how it saved her from the dark place and from wanting to die. She doesn't want to marry the prince, she wants to emulate him. She wants to rise up and rescue others from their pain. And so she does. Not only does she emulate rescue, but also takes on the air of a prince. The boys encourage her to join their teams (she refuses--she's a girl, after all, she doesn't want to be a boy, just a prince). The girls adore her, fawning over their Utena-sama. And slowly, she breaks the shell around the heart of Anthy, the one to be saved, the one that doesn't realize she wants to be saved. Okay, so that argument is almost more for a best hero competition, but she really is cool as she does all of this. She even fashions a dress out of a tablecloth to keep Anthy from humiliation. Not to mention wearing a modified uniform (masculine, although nothing like the boys' uniform at Ohtori), earning the ire of teachers and cheers of fellow students. Group C-24 Roger Smith, The Big O |
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marie-antoinette
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Hmm, okay, I might be open to change. I don't really have much knowledge about either show (a bit more about Utena which is one I actually plan to watch). |
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Sanosuke_Inara
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Errinundra
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May I suggest you re-watch episode 4 and pay attention this time. |
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Sanosuke_Inara
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Errinundra
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You've got a great journey ahead of you. And thanks, you just encouraged me to re-watch episode 4 myself. |
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Sanosuke_Inara
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I was so sure that she was a dude, though. xD. |
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Key
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Corrected.
You would be far from the first viewer to make that mistake.
My favorite vote justification yet this round! Definitely a reference people won't get unless they've seen the whole series. (In an interesting bit of timing, the episode which speaks to the truth of that statement just played on late-night Adult Swim in the U.S. over this past weekend.) I'm going to hold off on voting for a day or two more because I'm still not sure how I want to vote in a couple of matches. The early returns suggest that this may be one of our most competitive R2 Groups ever; with 11 votes in, 5/7 one-on-one matches are split 6/5 and no one has the majority in the three-way. |
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Sanosuke_Inara
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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Group C-17
Kino, Kino’s Journey vs. Letopanyu Spoor, Crest/Banner of the Stars franchise Choosing: Spoor Because NRrragghhaaah! Must I choose? I want both of them to move on. I'm going with Spoor because she's more lively. So much assertiveness, self-confidence, and charm. Vivacious. Group C-18 Allen Schezar, Escaflowne franchise vs. Medicine Seller, Ayakashi, Mononoke Choosing: Medicine Seller Because Mainly based on what people have said about the Medicine Seller. Group C-19 Yuuko Ichihara, xxxHolic, Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle vs. The Count, Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo Choosing: The Count Because Both enthralling mysterious entities, but Yuuko doesn't wield her charisma and intrigue quite as much as The Count. Group C-20 Nicholas Wolfwod, Trigun vs. Taichi Keaton, Master Keaton Choosing: Keaton Because The breadth and depth of Keaton's expertise give him a leg up over a character who lingers in my memory primarily as a few quirks. Group C-21 Akira Tokizawa Eden of the East vs. Fee Carmichal, Planetes Choosing: Akira Because Someone suggested that Akira is primarily just some kid with a lot of money at his disposal. I heartily disagree. Akira achieves a number of his most impressive feats based on sheer personality. He talks a hikkikomori out of a year (two year?) long withdrawal from society not just out of his apartment, but into action to help save the country. He captivates one of his revivals so thoroughly that she essentially sacrifices spoiler[her own chance at winning Mister Outside's game] for him. Everything he does in the first episode is done without any knowledge of the resources he has available to him. And consider the crooked cop who was also a Selacao: he ended up as little more than gutter trash, so it's not the money that imparted charisma. Fee's a great character, too, and she's got her crew's back whenever they need her, but when did she ever radically alter a stranger's personality after only a single conversation? Group C-22 Kyouraku Shunsui, Bleach vs. Rin Tohsaka, Fate/stay night vs. Roy Focker, Super Dimensional Fortress Macross/Robotech Choosing: Roy Fokker Because Since the character I really wanted to move on here is the only one of the four who didn't make it through the first round, I'll take my second pick. Group C-23 November 11, Darker Than BLACK vs. Utena Tenjou, Revolutionary Girl Utena Choosing: Utena Because November's got more than enough fans. I don't dislike him, but I'm not one of them. Group C-24 Reinhard von Lohengramm, Legend of the Galactic Heroes vs. Roger Smith, The Big O Choosing: Reinhard Because Flipped a coin. Last edited by Dorcas_Aurelia on Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:48 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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