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Tony K.
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:00 pm
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So is this DTS 5.1 just for the dubs? I already have all of RahXephon, but I don't have an HDTV and since I can't stand any of their dubbing, I just don't feel like repurchasing it. Although, I don't have Noir or FMP! yet, so if the price is right, I may get the new versions of those instead .
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PatrickD
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:24 pm
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You might want to double check that press release. It doesn't say the WMV HD and DTS 5.1 will be on the same DVD, but the news post on the main page seems to indicate otherwise.
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kusanagi-sama
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:36 pm
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The news release states the following:
Quote: | ADV FILMS ANNOUNCES RELEASE OF THREE TITLES IN HIGH DEFINITION FORMAT
Noir, RahXephon, and Full Metal Panic! to be Released in Windows Media High Definition Video and 5.1 DTS Surround Sound Audio
HOUSTON, December 30, 2004 – Get ready to experience your favorite anime titles in a way you never have before! ADV Films, the number one producer-distributor of anime in North America, today announced the release of Noir, RahXephon, and Full Metal Panic! in brand new high definition collector’s volumes. Look for these exciting 2-disc volumes of each series to hit the shelves throughout 2005.
Through the use of Windows Media High Definition Video (WMV HD), movies can now be viewed on computers with DVD drives, as well as on many new set-top DVD and digital media players, with amazing quality and resolution up to 6 times higher than that of today's standard DVDs! In addition, movies pack a whole new punch with crystal clear DTS Surround Sound audio.
ADV’s high definition collector’s releases will feature 2-disc volumes of each series. The first DVD of each volume will contain the feature presented in new WMV HD video format and Windows Media Audio Professional to be played on Windows Media Player 9 or 10 and WMV HD compatible DVD players. The 2nd DVD will feature a brand new DTS 5.1 audio track to accompany the Dolby 5.1 audio mix and standard definition video feature.
“High definition is the future of home entertainment,” said John Ledford, President and C.E.O. of ADV Films. “With crystal clear picture and sound, high definition is certain to deliver a new and exciting method by which to experience home video. We’re pleased to be able to be on the forefront of delivering this new high definition DVD format to North American audiences.”
Be sure to be on the lookout for more exciting high definition titles from ADV Films!
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My assumption here is that these DVD's are for the new Blue-Ray DVD drives coming out.
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Joe Mello
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:59 pm
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Awesomeness. All we need now is to make an IMAX version of Eva and we're set for life.
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Kazuki-san
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 2:55 pm
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kusanagi-sama wrote: |
My assumption here is that these DVD's are for the new Blue-Ray DVD drives coming out. |
I'm not sure where you are getting that assumption, especially considering that, to my knowledge, Blu-Ray won't be available here until late next year. Also, Microsoft has thrown it's support into the HD-DVD camp, which is a factor since we are talking about WMV files. And of course, there is the fact that Blu-Ray already supports HD without having to use WMV-HD.
I'm also not sure how successful this venture can be, since to make it worth buying you would either need a monitor or TV capable of displaying HDTV, and a player that is fairly new (and I believe mid to high price range) that can decode WMV-HD. There are a few discs already out in WMV-HD.. I wonder how well they are selling.
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IanC
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:06 pm
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I aint buying any of these cus they have WMV video on them.
Sorry ADV but siding with MS is a bad idea in my book.
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ANN_Bamboo
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:08 pm
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IanC wrote: | I aint buying any of these cus they have WMV video on them.
Sorry ADV but siding with MS is a bad idea in my book. |
I don't think they're siding with Microsoft. They're just using their technology. It'd be like a company using Windows XP instead of OSX. That doesn't mean they're siding with Microsoft, does it? It's just technology.
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halo
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:09 pm
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I got the impression that the first DVD will be a non-spec compliant DVD containing WMV HD video and WMA Pro sound and will only be playable on a PC or Windows Media compatible player and the second DVD will contain normal video and both a 5.1 surround and DTS track.
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Sword of Whedon
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:36 pm
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Both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD support WMV-HD playback as part of their official spec on either standard DVD media or the high capacity
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kusanagi-sama
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:51 pm
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Do we really need DTS for regular anime? DTS ought to be reserved for movies (this includes anime movies).
5.1 Dolby Digital is sufficient enough for regular anime series.
It would be nice if that since they did the english dub in 5.1DD, that they would do that Japanese in 5.1DD like they have with ROD the TV and Ghost in the Shell and the Platinum edition of Neon Genesis Evangelion.
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Tony K.
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:04 pm
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kusanagi-sama wrote: | It would be nice if that since they did the english dub in 5.1DD, that they would do that Japanese in 5.1DD like they have with ROD the TV and Ghost in the Shell and the Platinum edition of Neon Genesis Evangelion. |
But weren't the Japanese soundtracks made in Japan. I believe I asked this same question before, and the answer lies in the Japanese production companies. Whatever we get on the DVDs in terms of Japanese audio is straight from Japan, unless they end up re-releasing it in a better format, and then the U.S. decides to do the same, as with Eva Platinum.
All ADV can do in terms of this situation is only for the dub, since they have the resources to create them right now, if they wanted.
So after saying that, I guess I answered my own initial question about these DTS tracks being dub only. If that's the case, then I suppose I won't be getting them then (assuming it would end up costing more).
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Kazuki-san
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 5:01 pm
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Sword of Whedon wrote: | Both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD support WMV-HD playback as part of their official spec on either standard DVD media or the high capacity |
That is true, but my point is that MS officially supports HD-DVD not Blu-Ray. In any case, since we are no doubt speaking of standard DVD-9 when it comes to what ADV will be releasing, the point is rather moot.
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Strategos
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 5:13 pm
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Is it just me, or is it WAY to early for another format. I am not to sure, but DVD's aren't THAT old, and I don't know how much higher quality you can get in an anime series than a DVD and 5.1 sound to be honest. There is a difference between live-action and animation, I just don't think the quality can be noticably higher, at least not in terms of the difference from VHS to DVD. Seems like a large waste of time and money, hopefully these new formats go the way of the dodo and everyone just sticks with DVDs for another 5-10 years.
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Kalium
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 5:22 pm
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SakechanBD wrote: | I don't think they're siding with Microsoft. They're just using their technology. It'd be like a company using Windows XP instead of OSX. That doesn't mean they're siding with Microsoft, does it? It's just technology. |
Except that the technology in question (WMV) is technically inferior to other options (like a generic MPEG-4 - not MSMPEG-4, which is worthless). Using WMV also places very real limits on who can and can not watch the DVD (contrary to popular belief in Redmond, not everyone uses Windows - or wants to).
Plus, WMV is a very inflexible container, among a host of other technical issues. It also support DRM, which I personally hold against WMV, although ADV would likely disagree.
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ChrisBeveridge
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 8:34 pm
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kusanagi-sama wrote: | Do we really need DTS for regular anime? DTS ought to be reserved for movies (this includes anime movies). |
Why not? The Japanese use it more and more frequently as of late it's becoming apparent. They've been creating DTS 5.1 tracks just for rental versions of their series in order to get people to both rent and buy their DVD releases after they air on TV. This is why we've gotten DTS tracks for shows like Gungrave and Samurai Champloo lately.
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