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iatheia
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All right, French Hikaru no go import it is, then. Really don't have the space on my bookshelf for 24 dvds, but at least the boxsets looks gorgeous... I just needed someone to tell me that it is hopeless, after all.
(it would be hilarious if they do announce next month or so... Unlikely, of course. But then again, more Hikago is never a bad thing) |
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Vent
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I need a stiff drink after that New York dub studio bit
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SnaphappyFMA
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Another Hikaru no Go fan here. I also would love a box set of the series... maybe someday it will happen. Stranger things have happened, right?
What probably will never happen is a continuation of the manga series, which is a real shame, because I would love to see the story continue. I've heard rumors as to why the series ended but no definitive reason. |
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Greg Aubry
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Patlabor TV has a singularly wretched dub, especially when compared and contrasted to the Manga UK and Animaze movie dubs. Everything from the bizarre, flat line-reading of the opening infodump (completely changed from the original) to Noa Izumi's constant utterances of "Why YOU--!!" were just awful. Fandom didn't need any more dubs from that studio.
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here-and-faraway
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Of all the incomplete series I own, Hikaru no Go is the one that makes me the saddest. I'm guessing there's no chance it could get a premium release like Cardcaptor Sakura? That way the Japanese save face and the fans can be happy. It's such a shame because it's a great story and the dub has already been made. <<Sigh>> |
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iatheia
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Continuing the manga that is officially finished would be weird, though. I haven't really heard of any cases where it has happened in the past. Even a spin off or a remake this late would be rather unlikely. Which isn't a bad thing, necessarily. There are some authors that don't know when to quit and continue the story past where it made sense to stop, so the remainder tends to be not nearly as good. And there have been series that have been retroactively ruined by bad sequels. And Hikago had a good ending. Well, not the manga, that made no sense, but the anime did, at least (whether you include the OVA or not). It gave off the sense of fulfillment and closure after saying everything that it wanted to say and not a word more. |
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VinceA
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A new dubbing studio has opened up in the NY area so the era of NY dubs is not over. MB Voiceworks does the dubbing for MediaBlasters and has their first title previewing this weekend.
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Keichitsu0305
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I disagree. I have never heard of a good New York City dub and most terrible old school anime dubs came from NYC. Some of my favorite anime I refuse to listen to them dubbed because they sound wooden, changed the dialogue too much, or sound like the voice actor was about to fall asleep. Only a hand few NYC dubs (Irresponsible Capt. Taylor, The Slayers, and Animation Runner Kuromi) I find tolerable based on the four companies Justin named. Which is I find new fans are silly claiming that Funi dubs or Bang Zoom dubs are bad. Never seen Hikaru no Go but it's pretty obvious why Haikyuu! and Free! were brought to America as opposed to other sports anime like the long running Kuroko's Basketball or one of those baseball shows. |
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GATSU
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I'm guessing Discotek just wants to see if they can get some of the same new blood to buy their stuff, as the other players. But Yowamushi is still a bloody risk, considering how badly sports shows bomb with anime fans here. So if you really want this thing to succeed, at least, you have to tell your friends to support it.
Because it's one of those shows which only works in Japan, not America. And Viz doesn't want to lose its shirt on it again. Plus, they even went to the bloody of trouble of promoting the actual game in North America, and it failed. And I'm guessing Media Blasters had a similar issue with the Bakuman anime, which it was also prematurely canceled. So, overall this probably means that the only guaranteed Takeshi Obata-money maker here is Death Note. Maybe the All You Need is Kill manga got a boost, 'cus of the Edge of Tomorrow movie, but that doesn't necessarily count for anything else. Though, hey, Discotek is looking to crowdfund. So if they get around to it, maybe you can convince them to add Hikaru no Go to that pile. here: Card Captor Sakura actually briefly made money, but most likely to flip off Nelvana over their Cardcaptors dub. I don't know if it actually stayed popular for Geneon to the end, though. |
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Greed1914
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I know, right? Honestly, even before Justin mentioned various geographical areas that don't do much dubbing at the end, I was thinking, "Wait, what about Ocean Group?" Maybe there are things I'm simply not aware of, but it seems like they are in a similar boat as New Generation in that the dubs they do get to do are continuations of shows that they previously worked on. The only things I can think of that I've seen at all recently from them was Inuyasha:Final Act and Roberta's Blood Trail. It seems like Viz and Aniplex are pretty content to let Bang Zoom handle things. Also, I don't know that I agree with the person that asked the last question when it comes to their being a "reawakening" of interest in sports anime. Or at least, I'm not sure I'd hold up Free! as an example of it. While it is a sports anime, said sport also results in several attractive-looking guys wearing swimsuits quite often. It's at least worth noting that it has some appeal beyond what is more common to the genre.
Let's hope that it works out for them. Unfortunately, it will be tough going since Media Blasters doesn't exactly have a ton of work to offer. |
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enurtsol
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A few things to affect Ocean Studios: - Westwood, the good Ocean, went union so that limited what they can work with and how much they need to pay. - Speaking of pay, during the Great Recession, the US and Canadian dollar were pretty much on par, so that wiped out any savings on dubbing in Canada. (Recently the US dollar has recovered, but these dub decisions are decided months in advance, so that US-Canada dollar disparity has to be there for awhile with the same forecast for months to come, before somebody can rely that the savings will definitely be there when they actually do the dubbing.) - OK this may have been more useful in the past when Canada TV used to air anime, but any show that has enough Canadian work in it are favored to put on Canadian TV, so an anime dubbed in Canada had a good chance on getting TV exposure than other anime. But anyways, means Ocean less advantages and less attractive. |
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iatheia
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One series that is not mentioned but also has been licensed for a release last year is Ping Pong. By Funimation. Who had the most openly antagonistic relationship with sports anime in the last several years. And the only thing that makes the swimming anime different from the rest is that they are wearing swimsuits. Every single sports anime with guys is a fujoshi bait. There are really almost no exceptions (the only one I can actually think of is Baby Step). |
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Greed1914
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I'm still not sure I'd say there is a huge surge in interest beyond what is normal. Basically, a handful of shows that are coming out soon needs to be weighed against the amount that have tried and failed. I also wouldn't say Funimation's relationship with the genre is antagonistic when the sales simply don't support continued efforts. It's well-known that sport anime has struggled to be profitable. Cutting or outright avoiding losses isn't antagonistic in the least. And sure, there is fujoshi bait in plenty of sports anime, but the fact that the guys are in swimsuits makes it a little more obvious that the show is catering to more than just those looking for a fun sports anime. The fact that it has that extra something means that it might not be as risky financially as most sports anime. What I'm suggesting here is that it is easy to read too much into things as a "sign" of where the industry is headed. |
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SpacemanHardy
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You obviously haven't heard any recent NYAV dubs, then. A lot of the ones they've been putting out have been outstanding. |
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Fedora-san
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I doubt the popularity of Free or Haikyuu is indicative of any kind of resurgence in America. Probably because resurgence implies sports anime was ever popular here to begin with. Prince of Tennis bombed, Hikaru no Go bombed, Yu-Gi-Oh only survived for a little while thanks to fad marketing and card game, but once GX arrived most of the American fanbase jumped ship as far as the anime is concerned. Did any sports show that aired on TV ever do well? I only remember Prince of Tennis and that was very short lived. I'd say the only reason those two shows are 'popular' in the west are the hunky guys, not so much because they're sports shows. I'm not sure how many guys are watching these shows in America, but in Japan I know it's the same as any other sports shounen.
Probably one of the biggest misconceptions in the west is a sports show being fujoshi bait somehow means it's not aimed at men or can be enjoyed majorly by men. In Japan a guy's not going to see an attractive guy in an anime and say ew and not watch it, they'll watch it for the story, characters, friendship, and underdog struggle. Here though? Well, I do see that unfortunately. Double dipping across the demographics is pretty unheard of in the west so that might be why. Especially when sports anime is a known failure in the west so there's no male sports anime fans to market these shows to here so they have to rely on the female audience alone. |
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