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GATSU



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:13 pm Reply with quote
Think there'll be some gangs from both cons who get into fights to prove their cons are better?
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Legato 2057



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:32 pm Reply with quote
no
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CorneredAngel



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:39 am Reply with quote
Consensus is that AX's 17,000 number is rounded down; also, the counting methodology of both cons (i.e., exactly what does the number represent - badges sold, or total badges issued, including staff, guests, associates, etc.) is still unclear.
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Emerje



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:48 am Reply with quote
Yeah, I'm surprised this news was actually run with such a close and unclear margin. I highly doubt that AX had exacly 17,000 attendants, but if they don't contend this then it might be reasonable to believe they rounded up instead of down.

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Stueypark



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 1:01 pm Reply with quote
Plus, there's the matter of all those hanging chads from the attendees in Florida
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Carol Maxwell



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 1:59 pm Reply with quote
GATSU wrote:
Think there'll be some gangs from both cons who get into fights to prove their cons are better?


That'd be interesting to see. Not that gangs are good, but the thought of someone dressed as Duo and Vash duking it out seems kind of ridiculous. And I know what the prize would be! A year supply of Pocky! Laughing
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dramzan



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 2:20 pm Reply with quote
If A-Kon is number 3 with 7,403 admissions, then someone forgot to mention BAAF. From their site: "attendance at BAAF 2003 exceeded 12,000 paid admissions, a 60% increase over BAAF 2002!" Looks like we need a recount!!
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Kain



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 2:26 pm Reply with quote
Hmm, I have some doubts about A-Kon being the third largest. BAAF 2003 is touting over 12,000 paid attendees. Even taking into consideration minor errors in counting and counting methodology, I doubt they actually had less than A-Kon's ~7,500.

Secondly, and I'll leave this bit of information here for people to chew on, but an anonymous source (God, I hate that expression, but I can't word it any differently) in the Otakon staff disclosed to me a while back that AX's attendance statistics have been traditionally inflated due to counting AX Staff, vendors, etc. Obviously I cannot confirm this myself, so this may have been told to me out of jealousy, but it does prove somewhat interesting.

EDIT: beat me to it, dramzan. :)
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jtnishi



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 2:57 pm Reply with quote
Well, in any case, I don't think a statistician would accept this as proof that Otakon is necessarily larger than Anime Expo or vice versa, because as far as the figures reported (and the presumption has to be that vendors or not, 17,000 must be the accepted number, since there's no clear proof otherwise), they are equal to the 2 significant digits that Anime Expo is reporting at. I couldn't rightfully believe that they are giving the exact count (especially since in the last 2 years, they gave 13,000 & 15,000).

Yeah, this is probably non-news (until next year, anyway Wink ).
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rektagunn



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 8:11 pm Reply with quote
GATSU wrote:
Think there'll be some gangs from both cons who get into fights to prove their cons are better?


anyone up for an east coast vs. west coast beef yo? Very Happy

weeeeesssstssssiiiiiiiiiiddddee!
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SamGoody0491



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 12:13 am Reply with quote
Otakon does not count:
Staff
Guests
Dealers
(A few others "groups")

Its per person (no matter how long they stay).
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Carol Maxwell



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 1:55 am Reply with quote
Stupid recounts. I've had enough for one lifetime.
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Hotaru



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 9:29 pm Reply with quote
rektagunn wrote:
GATSU wrote:
Think there'll be some gangs from both cons who get into fights to prove their cons are better?


anyone up for an east coast vs. west coast beef yo? Very Happy

weeeeesssstssssiiiiiiiiiiddddee!


excuse me, EAST SIIIIDE.

ny kicks california's ass any day. but i think it'd be interesting to go to AX one day, but otakon is the best.
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Zeiram



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:23 pm Reply with quote
wee north siiiide!!! x_X mwahahahah go chicago! lmao

ok our attendance isn't as big, but it's too damned expensive to go to either of the other conventions haha.
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Proman



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 5:45 pm Reply with quote
Otakon... Is this year's Otakon 4 in Columbus, Ohio the same thing as last years Otakon?
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