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Emerje
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That makes sense, if games aren't selling it must be the marketing, PR, and event peoples' fault, not the people making the dumb decissions. It's probably because of the people they're letting go that these games sold as well as they did.
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Mikeski
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You missed the part where they canned the president, too?
And anyway, if the games aren't selling, it means one of a couple things: 1) the games are terrible, so lose the designers/programmers/artists 2) the games are good but they don't sell anyway, so lose the sales/PR folks 3) the economy is just that bad, so lose whatever you can get by without (which is, again, the sales/PR folks; you need programmers/artists/designers or you have no product to sell once the economy turns around.) 4) your company is just too big for the market, so lose a few of everything to get down to the point that what you're selling is enough to pay all your people. Apparently, they think it's #2 or maybe #3 (I don't think they'd can the prez if it was #3.) |
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Ryu Shoji
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Here's a tip Square Enix:
1) No more iOS ports. Seriously, stop. 2) LISTEN TO THE FANS. This means no more iOS ports and localisations of Bravely Default and Final Fantasy Versus XIII 3) No more iOS ports 4) No more iOS ports. |
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Rahxephon91
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Why no more IOS ports? They are cheap, make money, tap into a lucrative market, and are good. Versus XIII doesn't exist as far as anything is concerned. So why ask for a localization? Listening to the fans sounds like the worst thing if this is a "fan". Last edited by Rahxephon91 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:53 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Excel Generations
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I heard Final Fantasy XIV hurt them bad with the unfinished and terrible release. Big flop and so now they are remaking the game scheduled to come out this summer I believe with 2.0 version.
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Lady Multi
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Precisely why he's calling for it. Personally, I always wanted Versus13 before I wanted 13, itself. We got 13, which, imo, was a beautiful game but a P.O.S. yet we haven't seem much of Versus13 at all. |
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Lady Multi
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I agree with the no more iOS ports. People think their awesome, but, honestly, why the crap would I buy something on a mobile device that I already have to play elsewhere? ...Same thing OVER AND OVER. We get it, some of those games ported were great, but quit beating them to death. 2nd, I hate Apple; always have, and I know I'm not alone. So guess what? I don't buy iOS even if I wanted to 'cause I don't own the over-priced devices. Not gonna buy an Apple device to play a game I have on my Playstation or elsewhere. |
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Rahxephon91
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And so because you don't like Apple products they should stop porting to IOS? And you think it's stupid because you can get those games elsewhere? Maybe people like playing them on their ipad or iphone, you know things they take everywhere? No, couldn't be. Do you get mad if they port them to Playstation Portables too? Again, Perfect example of why you shouldn't listen to the fans. |
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Aynslesa
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Final Fantasy XIV definitely did hurt them, enough so that they replaced almost the entire development team, made the 1.0 version free-to-play for over a year until they got it to a point where the people playing it actually thought it worth paying for, and yup, now 2.0 is coming out. I played the 1.0 version and the game was *so* much better during the second half of its run versus it's initial release, and I can't wait to play 2.0. I think it's probably a combination of several factors that have led to this - poor choices made in development, several games not selling as well as expected, unstable economies. Looking at the people who are being laid off, it seems to me as if they're trimming back non-essentials to try and recoup some of their losses. |
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Ryu Shoji
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The problem with the ports is simply, Square Enix won't stop porting. It's going to come to a point where I can play the original Final Fantasy on my fridge. and my future wife's home pregnancy test. What system can't I play the original Final Fantasy on?
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TitanXL
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I'm tempted to quote Zero Puctuation's stance on fans. But needless to say, yeah, usually "fans" are the last people you should actually listen to. Especially in cases like Versus where they've never played the game or know anything about it but still insist it's some kind of masterpiece and savior of gaming. Maybe I just lack their unique ability of precognition or something. |
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Lady Multi
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I don't buy multi-copies of games just because its on another system. It's still the same game, a port is just a port. You dull a great game by beating it to death and eventually people stop caring at all about the release. It is also you're opinion that 13 was a great game, I think its a big pile of crap with some beautiful graphics; thus my continuing boycott of 13-2 and the un-released 13-3. Calling for Versus13 to exist as it has ALWAYS seemed more interesting is not wrong as apposed to continuing with a piece of crap. Where is Dragon Quest? Oh, that's right the DQX is an ONLINE game. The next FF? A rip-off of God of War only T-rated (Lightning Returns) or the ONLINE FF14. Wow. such great game, that 14 failed so horribly. 13-2 sold 1/3 of what 13 sold. So let's continue to sell failures?? What about Star Ocean? When did we last get one of those? A company that made is name(s) with single-player RPGs suddenly shunning their audience's desires for new games. We already have those old games; we don't want a port of the same thing we've already played. Dealing with gamers (those who play games to play games because they love them) and "gamers" (people who play just a to play because they're bored and on the go) are two different things. I highly doubt that a person who truly cares about playing one of those games will rush out to buy a stalker-product to buy the iOS version of the game. Nope, pretty sure, they'd just go get a full version of the game elsewhere. ...Go find me numbers of how many people who fully completed Chrono Trigger on their phones and we'll talk about how great the ports of RPGs are especially with bugs and graphics issues the ports cause. There is only one Squeenix game that I have 2 copies of, btw. It's Crisis Core: FF7. Why? I bought the collector's PSP, which I STILL use to play PSP games. It's right on top of my my manga stack directly behind me. |
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HitokiriShadow
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Because tons and tons of people own iPads and iPhones, so its a good way to get it to people that HAVEN'T played it before. Like you, I don't like Apple so I don't own those products, but there's good business sense in releasing games for them. |
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TitanXL
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You know, just because you don't like them doesn't mean they don't exist.
Tri-Ace makes those, not Square, they just publish them.. and Tri-Ace has made lots of games since Last Hope, they just don't come out in America. |
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Rahxephon91
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And you call it continuing a peace of crap, but as a fan I don't mind more XIII games. At least they come out, which is more than I can say for Versus. And no I very much doubt they come out at the expense of Versus. Plus they do make money. Why would a company not make them?
But of of course I guess these people don't count, because you've made up some dumb system where I guess they aren't real gamers. lol.
and lol at full version. Seeing as how Square has had success with their IOS versions I'd say there are tons of people who want these on their is systems. Hell I bet they have them on other systems. Hell, I have tons of copies of MGS3 and I sure wanted it on my Vita. Why? So I could play it on the go and just play another version of the game. But no I'm not a real gamer and/or I'm not real. Oh please continue, your logic here is astonishing. |
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