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NEWS: French Man Gets 1-Year Sentence for 'Manga Pornography'


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Mune



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:36 am Reply with quote
Really?!

When found in possession of something that depicts illegal actions and making a comment online. This is profiling to the highest degree.

It is almost like someone owning a game, where your objective is an illegal act. Then, you state that you want to perform said illegal act. I do not know about anyone else, but this reference happens all the time, everywhere. The act of actually doing the said illegal act is usually never done though.

"I'm going to kill you." - while playing a FPS or watching a movie.
You don't take it seriously, the target of your statement doesn't take it seriously. If either did, then obviously, someone took it too serious.

This just proves that people can't take a joke on serious matters unless it is shown as a literal joke context. So, sarcasm is non-relevant to any case and joking around is no longer an excuse. Watch your tongues.
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mimosa_usagi



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:48 am Reply with quote
"I don't imagine myself in the place of the rapist, but rather in the girl's."

For some reason (unlike the judge) I believe him. It may not be true, but a lot of people with rape fantasies were often victims when they were children themselves. Wishing to be, or fantasying about being a little girl who is targeted by pedophiles is a very embarrassing thing to admit too. I think there may be a grain of truth in their somewhere. :/
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Mindwraith



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:50 am Reply with quote
if this is the case, then shouldn't everyone who plays call of duty be locked up for a year because they're simulating murder? stupid legal system...
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RyanSaotome



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:51 am Reply with quote
Won't someone think of the cartoon children?
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karyuudo0127



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:56 am Reply with quote
It's the French... what do you expect?

With all seriousness though, the whole raping a minor thing is really bad. The guy really should get some help... regardless if it's a manga character that's getting him off.

On the flip side though, I'd rather him getting off on a manga character than actually raping a young girl... so really pick your poison in this situation.
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Mune



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:05 pm Reply with quote
Mindwraith wrote:
if this is the case, then shouldn't everyone who plays call of duty be locked up for a year because they're simulating murder? stupid legal system...


Not each Call of Duty is murder. In the eyes of the justice system, killing someone in war is not murder. The opposing force is armed and has every intention of killing you. In this sense, it could even be called self-defense. But, as seen in Modern Warfare 2, when your persona takes a role of an undercover Russian and travels to an airport to assist in the murder of many civilians, this is considered murder. And yet, this game actually made it to most countries, unedited with this scene still intact.
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Nemo_N



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:26 pm Reply with quote
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One of the judges asked the suspect, "When you see a girl six to eight years old being raped, don't you think there's something wrong?" He responded, "If you had read my psychiatric report, I don't imagine myself in the place of the rapist, but rather in the girl's." The judge replied back, "You're very intelligent. The doctor only reported what you told him. Me, I don't believe a word of what you are saying."

So you see, the judge is able to read minds. And this ability of his allows him to put you in prison. Because you shouldn't have bad thoughts.

Christ on a crutch.
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st_owly



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:42 pm Reply with quote
Nemo_N wrote:
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One of the judges asked the suspect, "When you see a girl six to eight years old being raped, don't you think there's something wrong?" He responded, "If you had read my psychiatric report, I don't imagine myself in the place of the rapist, but rather in the girl's." The judge replied back, "You're very intelligent. The doctor only reported what you told him. Me, I don't believe a word of what you are saying."

So you see, the judge is able to read minds. And this ability of his allows him to put you in prison. Because you shouldn't have bad thoughts.

Christ on a crutch.


That's the bit that freaked me out, as well. Seems to me like the judge basically ignored everything about the suspect and sent him down just because he could. That guy's probably gonna have a hell of a time in prison.
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Strawberryelle



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:51 pm Reply with quote
how stupid.
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asimpson2006



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:58 pm Reply with quote
@st_owly I do not know how the French prison system works but I do know that in the US prison system people considered at risk in the general population of the prison (child molesters, snitches, and people trying to get out of gangs) can get put into a different part of the prison that does not interact the normal prisoners at all.
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st_owly



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:04 pm Reply with quote
asimpson2006 wrote:
@st_owly I do not know how the French prison system works but I do know that in the US prison system people considered at risk in the general population of the prison (child molesters, snitches, and people trying to get out of gangs) can get put into a different part of the prison that does not interact the normal prisoners at all.


That happens in the UK as well, but recently a woman who killed her children was slashed in prison, despite being in a special section of a women's prison, so it's by far from infallible. It sounds to me like this guy needs to be in a secure psychiatric unit, not prison.
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TitanXL



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:12 pm Reply with quote
France, why? I thought you were better than this.
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Kutsu



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:34 pm Reply with quote
The articles say 'with sursis' meaning he'll only go to jail if he actually commits another crime.

Besides, people who get less than 2 years of jail here usually don't actually go in prison (it's called 'remises de peine').

Obviously, the decision is still dumb, but hopefully the guy will go on appeal and win.
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3rdHalf



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:35 pm Reply with quote
As a Psychology Geek, I feel so angry reading articles like this.
This is so stupid, in so many levels, that I don't know where to start!

The guy has been added to "sexual offenders list" for what?
...for having fantasies?

OK? Today I had a fantasy about 16 year-old girl, from my yoga class. Should I be added to "sexual offenders list" too?
NO! Because, as long as long as I don't seduce here in reality, there is nothing illegal, or even immoral.

Paraphilia Definition
Paraphilias all have in common distressing and repetitive sexual fantasies, urges, or behaviors. These fantasies, urges, or behaviors must occur for a significant period of time and must interfere with either satisfactory sexual relations or everyday functioning if the diagnosis is to be made. There is also a sense of distress within these individuals. In other words, they typically recognize the symptoms as negatively impacting their life but feel as if they are unable to control them.


So as long as the guy can get stiffy from older woman and don't bring his illegal fantasies in real live - he can't be accused for being a sexual offender.
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jl07045



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:54 pm Reply with quote
It seems that this judge is unable to make rational decisions in morally controversial cases. What exactly was the result of the psych evaluation? Only that could tell if that man is dangerous and not some judge's hunch.
Then again there might be more to this than is reported here.
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