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OtakuOtoko
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:06 pm
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Oh no! Someone's reading illegal manga scans from the internet?! For shame........
Sounds like the manga copyright holders need to learn from this and keep up with the times. If they are going to take away a good mean of on the go manga, then they need to replace it with a cheap legal alternative that is up to date out of Japan. It is their own fault for price gouging and not keeping/catching up with whats coming out in Japan.
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luffypirate
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:12 pm
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Sounds like the Android Manga Browser app. Been around for a while now.
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Pants
Joined: 18 Nov 2007
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:15 pm
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Just downloaded the app and suggested it to all of my friends. Thanks for the tip, ANN!
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malik_chan
Joined: 07 Mar 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:15 pm
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OtakuOtoko wrote: | Oh no! Someone's reading illegal manga scans from the internet?! For shame........
Sounds like the manga copyright holders need to learn from this and keep up with the times. If they are going to take away a good mean of on the go manga, then they need to replace it with a cheap legal alternative that is up to date out of Japan. It is their own fault for price gouging and not keeping/catching up with whats coming out in Japan. |
Do you blame them for also waiting to see what people want so they know what to license instead of licensing everything possible? And do you blame them for trying to work with those Japanese publishing companies to bring something out here when things get tied up or when they are just in talks about what they license out? It's also not free to license things.
I don't get why anyone would want to read manga on the iPhone or any other smart phone. A full page can't be read without the words blurring and becoming to small to read, and scrolling is pain in the rear when zoomed in.
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Zac
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:22 pm
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Pants wrote: | Just downloaded the app and suggested it to all of my friends. Thanks for the tip, ANN! |
Now now, if you're going to troll at least try to be believable. Nobody's going to buy that you have friends!
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classicjelly
Joined: 02 Mar 2010
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:22 pm
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This is nothing new,its finally getting noticed by yen press just because of the ipad hype?I wouldnt see why yenpress should care.Its the same thing like reading its titles off a site like mangavolume.The only good title I ever saw that came out of that company was Blackgod,(which ended).So if people can read it using the app,why should they care if its not really "recent".
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Shiroi Hane
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:23 pm
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I imagine the app is easier to pull, but they really need to be going after the actual sites (I assume, unless they are flash-based, you can just go directly to them using the browser on these devices anyway).
Some of these sites are clearly pretty big and making money for themselves - not just ad-funded but actively advertising themselves through google ads; until I pointed it out every ad I was getting on the manga.co.uk site was for mangaf*x.
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edzieba
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:29 pm
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In other stunning news: You can view IMAGES! Over the INTERNET!
Though I can't fathom why anyone would want to read manga on a tiny, low resolution phone screen. Even the current 800x600 e-ink readers make pretty poor manga viewers.
Zac wrote: | Now now, if you're going to troll at least try to be believable. Nobody's going to buy that you have friends! |
Ooh, burn.
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littlegreenwolf
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:32 pm
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Shiroi Hane wrote: | Some of these sites are clearly pretty big and making money for themselves - not just ad-funded but actively advertising themselves through google ads; until I pointed it out every ad I was getting on the manga.co.uk site was for mangaf*x. |
They've been hitting the fanfiction sites too like fanfiction.net. From what I've heard they're mainly funded by google ads. Makes you wonder if google has rules against supporting illegal sites or not. Apparently google made demands that they take down all yaoi and sexually explicit content in order to continue funding it.
As to the app, it was only a matter of time. Surprising if it hasn't been taken off yet though. Good luck to those companies, there's not doubt going to be plenty more posted like it afterwords.
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vashfanatic
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:34 pm
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malik_chan wrote: | I don't get why anyone would want to read manga on the iPhone or any other smart phone. A full page can't be read without the words blurring and becoming to small to read, and scrolling is pain in the rear when zoomed in. |
My guess is it's the advent of the iPad that is prompting this. I wouldn't want to read or watch anything on an iPhone etc. but on an iPad? Sure! In fact, some comic book companies are looking into legally distributing their issues this way and saving some costs on printing etc.
But I absolutely agree that YenPress and others finally have found something that they can go after pretty easily. Underground webpages that pop up like mushrooms are harder to shut down, but with the might of Apple on your side, you can at least stop this form of distribution.
Really, I wish these online readers would only put up unlicensed/unreleased material. That's what scanlations and fansubs should be for: drumming up interest in titles that might otherwise be unknown.
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Kenotic
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:44 pm
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So I understand Apple a little better - Flash, Google Voice, and Wifi detectors are unacceptable, but bootleg manga is a go?
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sdhd
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:46 pm
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Yen Press, VIZ, TokypPop, and DelRay should pay "Not A Basement Studio" for the app. It is the manga and manhaw publishers fault for not being proactive about technology. The companies are slow to adopt new technology which makes them slow to adapt to the ever changing world of technology.
Not sure if the companies are leaders where anime and manga are concern but the thieves sure have talents, skills, and leadership where all things consider. Also, the thieves have guts for pulling this stunt.
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MorwenLaicoriel
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:47 pm
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What's really dumb is, from what I've heard, they actually charge you for the app! If I was going to read scanlations, particularly of series already out in the USA, why would I pay for it?
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Maruna
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:50 pm
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It's not like this is a new issue, but it's good to see the rights holders are actually taking notice and doing something about it, instead of just the scanlators who's projects are stolen by the programs and used for profit. Obviously, it's a bigger problem for the companies losing money than it is for the groups who are pissed about their work being abused.
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Maruna
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:53 pm
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sdhd wrote: | Yen Press, VIZ, TokypPop, and DelRay should pay "Not A Basement Studio" for the app. It is the manga and manhaw publishers fault for not being proactive about technology. The companies are slow to adopt new technology which makes them slow to adapt to the ever changing world of technology. |
It's a little more complicated than that. While the US companies might see the crowd they can target with this variety of digital distribution, it's worth questioning whether or not they can make a long term profit off of just ads and the initial fee. On top of that, licensing the title doesn't automatically mean the company has the rights to distribute it digitally as well, and I'm certain the Japanese companies are very cautious about giving this the okay.
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