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v1cious
Joined: 31 Dec 2002
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:44 pm
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That doesn't even sound legal. He definitely has a case.
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Kyogissun
Joined: 17 Aug 2007
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:55 pm
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"The Fukuoka police say that they were enforcing an ordinance meant to curtail the influence of the yakuza. "
Really? That's the best answer they had?
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keikanna44
Joined: 12 Feb 2009
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Location: Virginia
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:12 pm
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What is with Japan and infringing on free speech!? Do they have nothing else to do but protest yakuza manga and protect fictional children from make believe porn?
Japan come on, leave the manga and anime alone and come back to reality. There are real problems to deal with in the world.
Anyway, in case my position wasn’t clear I think it was wrong for the police to ask the stores to remove the yakuza manga because of the reasons I stated above. The author definitely has a case in my opinion. I HOPE HE WINS!
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Apollo-kun
Joined: 11 Feb 2010
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Location: City 7, Macross 7
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:14 pm
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The government tries to ban lolicon, then Osaka tries to regulate yaoi and josei, now the Fukuoka cops are after YAKUZA manga. Geez, what's next?
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walw6pK4Alo
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:34 pm
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I guess it has to do with the Japanese finally trying to make the Yakuza less powerful. But either way, showing the Yakuza in any way makes them more known. I can't help but think of Coppola or Scorsese films as a comparison here. Even if that's the complete wrong line of thinking, I can't dismiss it.
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Megiddo
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:07 am
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Somebody needs to tell the Library Corps that the Media Enforcement Agency is overstepping their bounds.
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tuxedocat
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:15 am
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If this was happening here in the States, I can say with some certainty that he would have a successful lawsuit. I don't really know a lot about Japanese law, but I hope he does well. The whole scenario seems very unfair to me.
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Emerje
Joined: 10 Aug 2002
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:29 am
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Megiddo wrote: | Somebody needs to tell the Library Corps that the Media Enforcement Agency is overstepping their bounds. |
Exactly my thought. Japan is going the way of Library Wars at a very rapid pace.
Emerje
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walw6pK4Alo
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:48 am
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What if the cops were paid off by the Yakuza to remove this material? It really doesn't seem too far fetched to me, considering how absolutely corrupt Japan is.
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Greboruri
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
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Location: QBN, NSW, Australia
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:20 am
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walw6pK4Alo wrote: | I guess it has to do with the Japanese finally trying to make the Yakuza less powerful. But either way, showing the Yakuza in any way makes them more known. |
Yes, I can't wait for the NSW and Victorian Police to remove all three series of "Underbelly" from Channel Nine and all DVD stores. Once they do that drug dealers will disapear from Australia. Yay! The Australian public had no idea what drug dealers were until they started being represented in fictional works.
Or you know, how about the cops fight real criminals rather than the fictional works based on crimes. Crazy idea, but you never know, it might just work.
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WatchforMoons7
Joined: 19 Mar 2009
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:25 am
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walw6pK4Alo wrote: | I guess it has to do with the Japanese finally trying to make the Yakuza less powerful. But either way, showing the Yakuza in any way makes them more known. I can't help but think of Coppola or Scorsese films as a comparison here. Even if that's the complete wrong line of thinking, I can't dismiss it. |
This reminds me, didn't journalists, authors or news reporters get hurt because they gave out a negative impression of the yakuza?
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enurtsol
Joined: 01 May 2007
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:33 am
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Does Japan has its own Bill of Rights?
Yakuza see themselves as members of society - at least their PR. Everybody in town would know where its Yakuza's HQ is - they don't hide it.
Funny true story from an expat living in Japan:
While riding his bike, got hit (not too seriously) by a black car that turns out to be Yakuza. Couple of Yakuza guys stepped out of the car, made a call on their cellphone. Minutes later, another black car came screeching by to a halt; more Yakuza guys stepped out; handed the expat some money and bowed apologizingly; then both cars sped away. Let's see the Mafia do that!
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Chiyosuke
Joined: 06 Oct 2003
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:49 am
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aight its a rarity that i post and Tempest forgive me for this but "f*ck tha police!" That extends to all sides of tha globe.
Chiyo out!!
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Mr Fingers
Joined: 25 Apr 2008
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:15 am
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That author is son of a Yak. "We're not the bad boys here, look at the police bully us!" anyone?
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walw6pK4Alo
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:29 am
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Greboruri wrote: |
walw6pK4Alo wrote: | I guess it has to do with the Japanese finally trying to make the Yakuza less powerful. But either way, showing the Yakuza in any way makes them more known. |
Yes, I can't wait for the NSW and Victorian Police to remove all three series of "Underbelly" from Channel Nine and all DVD stores. Once they do that drug dealers will disapear from Australia. Yay! The Australian public had no idea what drug dealers were until they started being represented in fictional works.
Or you know, how about the cops fight real criminals rather than the fictional works based on crimes. Crazy idea, but you never know, it might just work. |
The Yakuza are different. They do have more control in more than you would think. Think of cartels, but they're not openly fighting the police or beheading random people, or kidnapping for randoms. They're more like how organized crime was in the past, embedded into several aspects of government.
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