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Mr Adventure
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:57 am
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Question, if the first season of Slayers is all I have watched previously, will I be missing out on anything critical if I jump ahead to Revolution?
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neocloud9
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:09 am
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Yeah, Slayers Revolution was tons of fun! Bring on the next season, says I.
Mr Adventure: You could probably get through Revolution pretty easily, but you'd really need to see the first three seasons to fully appreciate Evolution-R.
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RayNbow
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:18 am
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Mr Adventure wrote: | Question, if the first season of Slayers is all I have watched previously, will I be missing out on anything critical if I jump ahead to Revolution? |
Well, if you jump right to Revolution, you might wonder what happened to Gourry's sword and you won't know anything about Xelloss.
Edit: and for Evolution-R (whenever that may get released on dvd), it is recommended to have watched the Slayers movies.
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mglittlerobin
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:28 am
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Mr. Adventure, you should watch all three seasons, especially Slayers Next, the second season, it's the best season and watching all three helps when it comes to certain things being mentioned in Revolution.
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Mr Adventure
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:04 pm
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Roger. Guess I'll hit up the RS Bargain-Bin and just get caught up.
Thanks.
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Aylinn
Joined: 18 Nov 2006
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:48 pm
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Mr Adventure wrote: | Question, if the first season of Slayers is all I have watched previously, will I be missing out on anything critical if I jump ahead to Revolution? |
I don't recommend watching Salyers Revolution in the first place. The plot is ripped off from the first season of Slayers and executed in a lousy way.
Besides, as a sequel this series is awful. Characters suffer from amnesia, struggle to defeat week opponents, don't think and Zelgadis and Amelia are as important as furnitures.
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DQBunny
Joined: 18 Aug 2009
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:56 pm
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Aylinn wrote: | I don't recommend watching Salyers Revolution in the first place. The plot is ripped off from the first season of Slayers and executed in a lousy way. |
Actually, Revolution is in many ways a more accurate representation of the novels it was drawn upon. The enemy they fight in the end is exactly how he is in the fifth novel, and not the mangled one merged with another enemy in the first series of the anime.
But, that's just me and I really adored both Revolution and Evolution-R.
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Zalis116
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:38 am
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While it's great that Funimation brought back the old dub cast, I'm sad to see that Slayers Revolution is missing one figure on the other language track. No, not any Japanese VAs -- I really feel that Neil Nadelman's translations were a key part of Subbed!Slayers' comedic appeal. With clever little liberties, spot-on character writing, and an excellent command of English, Nadelman's subs made Slayers considerably funnier than it would've been with an industry-standard "take this raw translation and iron out the kinks" treatment.
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Aylinn
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:40 am
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DQBunny wrote: |
Actually, Revolution is in many ways a more accurate representation of the novels it was drawn upon. The enemy they fight in the end is exactly how he is in the fifth novel, and not the mangled one merged with another enemy in the first series of the anime. |
Even if Slayers Revolution is a more accurate representation of the novels, this kind of repetition still makes an awful sequel. If the story is supposed to take place after events of Slayers Next and Try then, for example, defeating Zuuma should be a piece of cake. Needless to say, they should know how to deal with Xellos.
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DQBunny
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:46 pm
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Aylinn wrote: |
Even if Slayers Revolution is a more accurate representation of the novels, this kind of repetition still makes an awful sequel. If the story is supposed to take place after events of Slayers Next and Try then, for example, defeating Zuuma should be a piece of cake. Needless to say, they should know how to deal with Xellos. |
You'll see why Zuuma's story is extended in Evolution-R. Remember, the original battle between him and Lina extended pretty much across three novels, but mainly novels 4 and 6. Evolution-R is a pretty good retelling of novel 6.
As for Xelloss, Lina admits that she held back because she was using him to suit her purposes - which is something in character for both of them. Lina used Xelloss to get her into place to find out what's going on in an easier manner (for her) than just plowing through soldiers. Xelloss, on the other hand, wanted Lina in place to suit his goals. So, they know each other very well here.
As for the repetition, I don't see it quite so much as that as a retelling. Doesn't anime do that all the time? You have "Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood" and "Negima?!" You have a lot of folks just now seeing Slayers for the first time, and that exposure is most likely going to be through Revolution/Evolution-R and not series 1. Also, the novels themselves repeat. Without trying to give away too many details, they fight the same thing in novel 15 as they do in novel 1.
I guess that's why it doesn't bother me. Everything, to me, feels like a logical progression and knowing the novel series ends the way it does, I don't mind. I enjoy the interactions between the characters and the fact that Gourry is treated immensely better here than in Try. I also really like Pokota as a character and how he doesn't backslide the way Filia does.
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Aylinn
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:22 pm
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DQBunny wrote: | As for the repetition, I don't see it quite so much as that as a retelling. Doesn't anime do that all the time? You have "Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood" and "Negima?!" |
The problem is that Slayers Revolution is treated as a sequel, not a retelling.
DQBunny wrote: |
You'll see why Zuuma's story is extended in Evolution-R. Remember, the original battle between him and Lina extended pretty much across three novels, but mainly novels 4 and 6. Evolution-R is a pretty good retelling of novel 6. |
I haven’t seen Slayers Evolution-R and I’m not going to. My problem with Zuuma is that he is far too weak for Lina and the rest. She fought powerful demons (mazoku) in the past. Zuuma is only a human. She should have defeated him instantly. She fought with two of the five Demon Lords, not to mention Dark Star, who was a God!!!
As far as I know in the novels, I haven’t read them, the confrontation with Zuuma takes place earlier before the team gain experience by fighting with more powerful opponents.
DQBunny wrote: |
As for Xelloss, Lina admits that she held back because she was using him to suit her purposes - which is something in character for both of them. Lina used Xelloss to get her into place to find out what's going on in an easier manner (for her) than just plowing through soldiers. Xelloss, on the other hand, wanted Lina in place to suit his goals. So, they know each other very well here. |
I mean they moan how powerful Xellos is and how they cannot beat him. WTH?
DQBunny wrote: |
I guess that's why it doesn't bother me. Everything, to me, feels like a logical progression and knowing the novel series ends the way it does, I don't mind. I enjoy the interactions between the characters and the fact that Gourry is treated immensely better here than in Try. I also really like Pokota as a character and how he doesn't backslide the way Filia does. |
Well, great. Personally, I am disappointed that they don't use any of the remaining of the five Demon Lords: Dynast Grausherra, Deep Sea Dolphin or Greater Beast Zelas Metallium in the new seasons.
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everapril
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:44 am
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Questito: Was Slayers Try's animation digital at all or was it strictly traditional? It must have come out around the time series were starting to transition over to digital...
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darcerin
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:12 pm
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Wow, all this hate on Slayers Rev?
I thought the Animation was actually a bit better than the old series (although that may be due to advances in technology between series), and although I only saw the first four episodes (so far) that Funi released online, I was laughing my head off. I LOVED the English cast to bits so hearing them all again was a blast.
Slayers was one of the first anime I collected, and I have a deep love for it - and I think Rev was at least much better than Try. I'm waiting for a Funi sale over at Rightstuf, or a friend to snap it up on a late birthday gift *pokes her friends* and then I can subject myself to more laughs.
/biased post.
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Mroni
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:25 pm
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as somebody who not only got into anime because of slayers but who has consistly listed as my top series. I like slayers revolution no the plot isnt as deep as the older stuff but I think its a nice update and I don't see how its a retelling of the first season. They are completely different plots. They added zuma from the manga and they have rezzo but the first season was about resurrecting shabrinigdo not saving pakotas people and inspector wizer was nowhere inthe novel. The Original anime is from 1995 I guess thats old to the average anime fan of today but it's not that old in the scheme of things. The slayers dub crew are back except for David moo who was xellos. Im having trouble getting used to the new xelloses voice. I would give slayers revolution 4 out of 5.
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Jedi Master
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:54 am
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I also find the amnesia annoying. Couldn't the TV continuity be kept separate from the novels/manga? It's the same reason I'm not remotely interested in FMA Brotherhood.
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