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dtm42
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:18 pm
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Do you always laden your reviews down with so many spoilers?
And even though it may be the weakest arc of the series, it is still far better than the average story arcs most Anime come up with. At least it actually has a story.
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Kimyo
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:29 pm
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I still can't bring myself to rewatch "Silence". It's good, but... but...!
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mulrich
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:03 am
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Faithful viewers will want to stop at episode 25.
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penguintruth
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:17 am
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mulrich wrote: | Faithful viewers will want to stop at episode 25. |
No they won't. The best part is... near.
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BleuVII
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:31 am
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Faithful viewers will want to carry the series out to its ending. Sure, it has a different tone, but from a literary standpoint, it's absolutely gorgeous, and it's one of the things that makes this series so distinctive.
Anyway, good, fair review.
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dtm42
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:30 am
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penguintruth wrote: |
mulrich wrote: | Faithful viewers will want to stop at episode 25. |
No they won't. The best part is... near. |
You should go on Letterman.
I disagree with your hidden assertion, though. Actually, I disagree with both you and mulrich. Faithful viewers will want to stop at episode 26, which is where I was hoping the Anime would end. But no, it had to follow the Manga, into an arc that is as painful as it is hurried. Yes, the Manga was drawn out, but at least it explained motives and deductions better.
On a more relevant note, I hope that ANN reviews the next DVD (sans major spoilers).
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ralphmerridew
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:41 am
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Where was Rem's gender a plot point?
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dtm42
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:12 am
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Rem was "always" female. Though she spoke in a masculine* "no nonsense" kind of way in the Japanese dub, her voice was unmistakably female. Well, so I thought until I read this review.
To say that her gender is a plot point sort of puts into perspective Casey's musings in the "Chicks on Anime" thread. I thought a person's (or in this case, Shinigami's) gender shouldn't matter? I'm tempted to label it a double-standard (that men are not allowed to assume a person's gender, but woman are), but that's for another thread.
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Have to be careful here, don't want to anger the kind people in the "Chicks on Anime" thread.
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marie-antoinette
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:53 am
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I definitely knew Rem's gender from her first appearance, and I don't think the dub having it be even more obvious really does much. It's not like it really affects anything.
As for the ever present argument about the second half of the series...about half of the faithful fans will keep going on with the series, while the other half bail out because they think the rest of the series is actually pretty bad/boring/convoluted (guess which camp I'm with? :p)
One a more positive note, the moment where Light gets his memories back is one of my favourite scenes, and one I have re-watched countless times because it's just that great.. (I also agree is a pretty big spoiler to reveal in a review without warning, though I will say I'm a bit more lenient with a mid-series review than I would be with a review for a stand-alone book/movie/etc...because obviously there has to be some discussion of where the plot is in this particular volume).
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maaya
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:32 am
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Rem's gender isn't a plot point, but simply a nice (?) surprise to those that assumed her to be male. She doesn't exactly look feminin to everybody I guess and since she's in love with Misa .... now does that qualify Death Note as Shojo-Ai?
Of course her voice actor is female as well in Japanese. However in the life action movie, Rem is voiced by a man, Shinnosuke Ikehata, who is a transvestite and usually plays woman or transvestite roles afaik.
So there shouldn't have been any doubt about Rem's gender for the Japanese viewers I think ^^;;
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rizuchan
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:59 am
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I can't say the second part of the series was quite as good as the first, but I certainly didn't dislike it. I didn't care for Mello or Near, but the second half is still Death Note with over the top, heavily thought out plotlines that are way too defendant on luck to ever work in real life. Near and Mello just have a rather hard act to follow after L. But I looked forward to watching the next episode every week just as much in the second part as I did the first part.
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KanonAirHaruhiShuffle
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:15 am
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all of the episodes in the anime were all great even after episode 25 but even so i have to say no to the anime version ending(final episode)
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penguintruth
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:08 pm
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dtm42 wrote: |
penguintruth wrote: |
mulrich wrote: | Faithful viewers will want to stop at episode 25. |
No they won't. The best part is... near. |
You should go on Letterman.
I disagree with your hidden assertion, though. Actually, I disagree with both you and mulrich. Faithful viewers will want to stop at episode 26, which is where I was hoping the Anime would end. But no, it had to follow the Manga, into an arc that is as painful as it is hurried. Yes, the Manga was drawn out, but at least it explained motives and deductions better.
On a more relevant note, I hope that ANN reviews the next DVD (sans major spoilers). |
Please. The story had been planned to go in the direction it did and it would have been terrible if it ended halfway through, except for obsessive L fans and the fourteen year olds in the "Kira is right!" crowd. It is an incomplete story at the point which you preferred it end. Get over it.
Plus, though the second part of the story starts off a little weak, it gains strength and becomes quite involving again, even to the point where there is some of the best material of Death Note in that portion.
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Dest7
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:00 pm
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I like Theron Martin reviews better (so many spoilers)
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Panda Man
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:01 pm
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I loved it all the way through. Also, I probably would have figured out Rem was female even without the english dub. Just because She looks feminine.
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