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SinisterOracle
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:59 am
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Quote: | Honey Lemon Soda's source manga, by Mayu Murata, is one of my favorite ongoing shoujo titles, and I'll be the first to admit that this anime adaptation doesn't capture Murata's art particularly well. The use of yellow as a theme color makes sense, but it ends up looking more like “electric banana” than “honey or lemon yellow,” and the eyes do not translate well at all; just because Murata uses golden brown in her color art doesn't mean that the anime should have attempted to replicate it. There's also something awkward about the bodies, which I think comes down to attempting to be too faithful to the manga art; making them move is very different from giving the illusion of movement.
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I completely agree with you on all points. Also, I just read this series is at 27 volumes. 27! What the hell is Kai teaching Uka that the story hasn’t been wrapped up yet?! (Or perhaps she’s teaching him a thing or two using her visualization skills ) The longest series I have on my bookshelf are Inuyasha (18 VizBig volumes), Finder Series (13 volumes), and Cherry Magic (13 volumes), so I’m not sure what else they could have going on. Maybe it’ll evolve into an isekai after Truck-kun takes Kai and Uka out on the sidewalk
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MFrontier
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:13 am
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Really glad to see this get an anime and to see Uka and Kai's story told in animation.
Shine bright you dazzling gemstone Uka!
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Blood-
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:18 am
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I've watched the first two episodes and generally like it with reservations. The yellow demon eyes freak me out but my bigger concern is: does Kai eventually become more sufferable or does his, "I must speak harshly to you for your own good and to mask my moogely-googely feelings for you" schtick continue on?
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BaronViolet
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:21 am
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SinisterOracle wrote: |
Quote: | Honey Lemon Soda's source manga, by Mayu Murata, is one of my favorite ongoing shoujo titles, and I'll be the first to admit that this anime adaptation doesn't capture Murata's art particularly well. The use of yellow as a theme color makes sense, but it ends up looking more like “electric banana” than “honey or lemon yellow,” and the eyes do not translate well at all; just because Murata uses golden brown in her color art doesn't mean that the anime should have attempted to replicate it. There's also something awkward about the bodies, which I think comes down to attempting to be too faithful to the manga art; making them move is very different from giving the illusion of movement.
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I completely agree with you on all points. Also, I just read this series is at 27 volumes. 27! What the hell is Kai teaching Uka that the story hasn’t been wrapped up yet?! (Or perhaps she’s teaching him a thing or two using her visualization skills ) The longest series I have on my bookshelf are Inuyasha (18 VizBig volumes), Finder Series (13 volumes), and Cherry Magic (13 volumes), so I’m not sure what else they could have going on. Maybe it’ll evolve into an isekai after Truck-kun takes Kai and Uka out on the sidewalk |
Perhaps she is teaching him how to be less of a dick!
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InfiniteNothingness
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:49 am
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Rebecca Silverman wrote: | It's hard to deny that Honey Lemon Soda is wish-fulfillment, but I think that what kind of wish-fulfillment you see depends a lot upon your own experiences. ... What Uka gets from Kai in these first two episodes isn't that he's riding to her rescue on a white horse, armor shining, but that she's being reminded that she's a person who deserves to be there at all. Kai's not so much saving her as seeing her. |
Rebecca Silverman wrote: | The manga's better on almost all fronts, but it's important that stories like this are brought to the screen. If you've been in Uka's position, you know why. |
Definitely, this is one reason that for as hard as I bounced off of it, entirely for reasons brought up in the review, I'm far happier to see it get adapted than not. I really wish it could so much as compete, or be "a good alternative" in terms of visual strength, but this is tragically far from the first shōjo or assorted with a wanting adaptation. It's the sort of empowering, gentle escapist wish fulfillment I always like seeing even when it doesn't personally strike me (and this certainly does).
For manga readers, about how much have the first two episodes covered so far? The anime solidified my decision to go with the manga, and I read that apparently a big twist happens in chapter 28 specifically, so I'd like to catch up by then. I couldn't find it from a cursory glance on Reddit's weekly thread, so I'm asking here.
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Princess_Irene
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:31 pm
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InfiniteNothingness wrote: |
For manga readers, about how much have the first two episodes covered so far? The anime solidified my decision to go with the manga, and I read that apparently a big twist happens in chapter 28 specifically, so I'd like to catch up by then. I couldn't find it from a cursory glance on Reddit's weekly thread, so I'm asking here. |
The first two episodes line up with the first two chapters of the manga, so unless they start moving more quickly, it's looking like they're going for a pretty faithful adaptation.
@Blood-
...kind of? He's abrasive, but we do get some backstory that helps, though I can't say it'll change your mind about him entirely as a character.
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Blood-
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:39 pm
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*sigh*
Oh well, that just comes with shojo territory, doesn't it? "Yeah, he's a dick, but deep down he really cares so it's okay!" Probably one of the reasons I like Kimi ni Todoke so much is that it avoids that trope.
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InfiniteNothingness
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:48 pm
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Princess_Irene wrote: |
InfiniteNothingness wrote: |
For manga readers, about how much have the first two episodes covered so far? The anime solidified my decision to go with the manga, and I read that apparently a big twist happens in chapter 28 specifically, so I'd like to catch up by then. I couldn't find it from a cursory glance on Reddit's weekly thread, so I'm asking here. |
The first two episodes line up with the first two chapters of the manga, so unless they start moving more quickly, it's looking like they're going for a pretty faithful adaptation. |
Excellent, I can take this really leisurely alongside all else that's going on this season. Thank you!
As for Kai, it's definitely in part my brand of neurodivergency speaking, but I actually have a real soft spot for the gruff everyboy (amongst similarly abrasive archetypes) that's fundamentally a decent person just a terrible communicator. It really brushes up against, and frequently plays into, the narratives about seeing and wanting to be seen and understood that I crave, and really thoughtful takes on the traded path allow for such a volume of interpretations in that direction. (And even more so, girls; we don't get nearly enough of those in general where this goes.)
Not that I can really fault or struggle to understand it being a turnoff in itself, let alone how frequently it's comorbid with nasty behavior that's minimized or played off as something different. At least the way Uka ends up bouncing off of him is pleasant enough on its own.
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Blood-
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:56 pm
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@InfiniteNothingness - I don't think your opinion of the "gruff everyboy" is a sign of neurodivergency at all. In fact, I think it puts you solidly in the majority of what appeals to the romance audience. I blame Jane Austen for this trope. She may not have invented it, but Pride & Prejudice introduced a model that has been baked into the romance genre ever since: the seemingly gruff, powerful male figure who is effectively conquered by our plain heroine. Yes, he talks a harsh game at first, and the heroine believes he must hate her, but eventually he is putty in her hands. Such a figure needs to be seen as powerful for the conquering to have any juice.
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Princess_Irene
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:35 pm
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Blood- wrote: | I blame Jane Austen for this trope. She may not have invented it, but Pride & Prejudice introduced a model that has been baked into the romance genre ever since: the seemingly gruff, powerful male figure who is effectively conquered by our plain heroine. Yes, he talks a harsh game at first, and the heroine believes he must hate her, but eventually he is putty in her hands. Such a figure needs to be seen as powerful for the conquering to have any juice. |
Actually, she may have invented it - the authors who inspired her, like Fanny Burney, and the ones she made fun of, like Ann Radcliffe, wrote much softer love interests. Radcliffe had a lot of bad boys who were bad guys the heroines were sometimes attracted to, though...
And if Austen didn't invent it, I'm still happy to blame Mr. Darcy for the trope's popularity.
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