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PipimiOden
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The only manga i pirate are the ones not legally avaliable here in any fashion, otherwise I just borrow from the library, use the comics plus subscription i have with one of my library cards, or just not read the manga at all if it's exclusive to k-manga or anywhere you have to pay per chapter.
I've had to drop so many korean webtoons because of their daily pass system because I'd much rather binge read and that's merely a daily barrier, what makes you think I'm gonna spend money on individual chapters (or parts of chapters!) when I could just use Viz or Shueisha's one-payment-a-month services or wait for the library to get the physical copies instead? |
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AniMangaNime
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Lmfao, perfectly described them |
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Blanchimont
 Posts: 3531 Location: Finland |
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I'll think about it when I see The World God Only Knows available officially. Until then I will be here just shaking my head and laughing at that...
Or Fushigi no Kuni no Bird or Onee-san wa Joshi Shougakusei ni Kyoumi ga arimasu or “Okaeri, Papa” or an undropped Eromanga Sensei or Asebi and Adventurers of Sky World or, you know, any of the other thousands of manga that don't have official translations |
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James02
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I typically only read from illegal websites if I have to. For the most part, I read from Viz Media, but there's also Webtoon that I read from. Other than that, there is one manga series that I buy the books instead of just reading them for free.
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Rouward
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Two factors why:
Manga isn't legally available worldwide especially in Southeast Asia; and official alteration from original scripts and illustrations. |
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Blanchimont
Posts: 3531 Location: Finland |
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Happened with the webtoon for a current series airing, Senpai wa Otokonoko; https://x.com/ethylenescans/status/1634685563520397312 https://www.reddit.com/r/OtokonokoSenpai/comments/1e2njd9/ |
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SinisterOracle
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I purchase physical manga, digital manga, use the MANGA Plus app, and read a few things on Lezhin. I have also used illegal websites to read a series when it is not legally available in a language that I can read. Censorship is another reason people will seek out illegal websites instead of buying the censored version. The manga industry should be trying to overcome these barriers to maximize the availability of manga as well as its profits.
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kgw
 Posts: 1137 Location: Spain, EU |
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I am still amused that, in a world when we have Manga Plus, Manga UP… plus Jump+ (and other Japanese online magazines, if you can read it), people still find excuse to pirate manga.
I know that when I started reading manga in the 90's I'd had love to read manga simulpub for free, from the original sources. But apparently, that's not enough for the Jolly Roger crew: truly first world (otaku) problems. Also AFAIK, Japanese publishers or authors has no saying in other countries laws' on what's acceptable for them. And there is always the chance of purchasing the original Japanese. Reading manga for free is not a human right. |
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Blanchimont
Posts: 3531 Location: Finland |
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As the article says, the fandom is divided. We're clearly on different sides on this. I'm not going to forgo gems found out there just because no-one's bothered to release them officially in a language I can understand. |
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SinisterOracle
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While your idealistic notions are cute, they’re not realistic. There is plenty of manga that is not available on any app, is out of print, and the legality of having some manga imported based on content may be questionable depending on which person you asked and which day it was. Nobody claimed that reading manga for free (or watching anime for free) was a human right. |
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mrsticky005
Posts: 132 |
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These guilt tripping "support the artists"
campaigns are kinda ironic when they got animators literally dying from over work. Of course I'm sure they will blame that on "piracy" but I think these massively successful corporations that benefit from others labor but undercut wages are the real pirates. As someone trying to make their own comic I would welcome piracy because then I would know people are reading my work. Some may say but if they pirate then I don't get paid. Sure. But they likely weren't gonna pay anyways probably cause they can't. Of course I would want to get paid for my work But I am opposed to guilt trip marketing. I do think some piracy really is bad though particularly when it is used to scam folk. But the fan scanlators translating work that isn't necessarily available officially actually should be thanked for the success of manga and anime. Don't get the wrong idea. If you can support the official release then I think you should and sure supporting artists is good but also because it's just nice to have an official high quality version of your favorite manga/anime. |
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RobbiRobb
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Yeah no, as long as nobody is going to officially release the mangas I read, I'm not going to stop pirating them. The same way this was a problem with anime a few years ago, this absolutely is a service problem. I started reading manga in 2020 and have since made an effort to buy all the physical releases of series I enjoyed. There are some manga that are available digitally, but I'm not a fan of paying for what is essentially a pdf, so crucify me if you want to.
Let's throw in some statistics to get a better idea of the problem: I have 65 manga on my manga list. There are a few one-shots among them, but most of those are full series. For context it is noteworthy that pretty much all of them are yuri manga, so obviously it's going to be a niche that not a lot of publishers will be able to fill. When manga are available legally, it's mostly the popular stuff. Getting back to the list, out of those 65 manga, only 20 are available legally and 2 of those only have a digital release. I own 7 of those already and there are two additional ones where I'm currently undecided if I'll get them at one point in the future. The other ones are mostly manga I have read but didn't really enjoy, so I'm not going to actually waste money on them. Admittedly, this isn't the best way of going about this, but I think a legal reader where you pay a subscribtion to get access to an entire library might solve this issue, because then I'd pay a base fee and get access to stuff I enjoy as well as all the stuff the is alright or even bad. Still, there are also currently 10 manga I'd like to buy legally but can't, since they are only available in Japanese. So there are more manga I'd like to own than there are manga I actually own. And the two that are only available digitally which I'd like to own but won't buy. So yeah, it very much is a service problem and until that is solved I'll continue to pirate manga. If publishers don't want my money, there is nothing I can do. |
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BadNewsBlues
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If you have the choice of getting something for free a paying for it. Almost everyone one would take the free option. Especially as in this particular case fans have open about preferring fan translations of series usually for how stuff is named versus the official translations
Not if their translations/proofreading/formatting/scanning is spotty. Which granted even the official stuff can have it’s problems but still. |
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Thulebox
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Mangakas literally get paid more depending on how many tankobon volumes get printed though so I don't understand your high horse position of "hey, starving artists should just be glad people see their art at all". I've got no issue with piracy as long as people aren't loud and proud about it. |
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kgw
Posts: 1137 Location: Spain, EU |
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Also, if someone don't like their country's laws for what's readable or not, they should change them. If they can't, they have bigger problems than manga availability. |
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