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Ryusui
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:12 pm
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*screaming in incoherent, apoplectic rage*
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L0ken
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:26 pm
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"In this innovative initiative, we have combined our unique machine translation technology with proofreading by professional translators using Mantra Engine"
I hope at least this part is true. They say efficiency translator emproves by half, but people are rightfully skeptical.
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ab2143
Joined: 09 Jan 2021
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:28 pm
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Guess I'll just wait for the volume release
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FireChick
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:58 pm
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Yeah, no, this is a bad idea. Really really bad.
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Touma55
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:13 pm
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I had a feeling this was going to start happening. The future for translators really isn't looking bright.
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Cho_Desu
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:38 pm
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It's sad, but most translating, editing, and lettering jobs for manga, light novels, etc will almost surely be replaced by A.I. in the years to come, because general audiences value speed of release much more than quality of release. A.I. translation gets some things wrong, sure, but it can churn out sentences that sound decent enough. Most readers in this market don't notice minor mistakes, let alone the difference between thoughtful prose and clumsy diction. (In fact, any degree of creativity in translation is automatically seen as "inauthentic" to large swaths of online fandom. They're likely going to get all the stilted writing they could ever ask for from now on.)
In the best-case scenario a decade from now, companies might keep a couple freelancers around to be the (extremely underpaid) "translation QA" staff for the sake of catching any particularly major flaws. (In the even more cynical scenario, they could simply rely on any die-hard fans online to catch the major flaws for them. Award them "10 points" on their app.)
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MFrontier
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:45 pm
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Really? AI?
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MarshalBanana
Joined: 31 Aug 2014
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:48 pm
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And how are translators supposed to earn a living?
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Greed1914
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:56 pm
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Cho_Desu wrote: | It's sad, but most translating, editing, and lettering jobs for manga, light novels, etc will almost surely be replaced by A.I. in the years to come, because general audiences value speed of release much more than quality of release. A.I. translation gets some things wrong, sure, but it can churn out sentences that sound decent enough. Most readers in this market don't notice minor mistakes, let alone the difference between thoughtful prose and clumsy diction. (In fact, any degree of creativity in translation is automatically seen as "inauthentic" to large swaths of online fandom. They're likely going to get all the stilted writing they could ever ask for from now on.)
In the best-case scenario a decade from now, companies might keep a couple freelancers around to be the (extremely underpaid) "translation QA" staff for the sake of catching any particularly major flaws. (In the even more cynical scenario, they could simply rely on any die-hard fans online to catch the major flaws for them. Award them "10 points" on their app.) |
The sad part is that I can see all of this happening. With the general trend towards digital media, it could easily be positioned as one of the benefits digital versions that no reprint is needed, and the AI translator could immediately spit out alternatives to plug into it.
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FilthyCasual
Joined: 01 Jun 2015
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:01 pm
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Wow, what an insult.
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Touma55
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:05 pm
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MarshalBanana wrote: | And what how translators supposed to earn a living? |
The same way the Knocker-uppers do now.
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Mintchi
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:38 pm
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I'm not surprised about this bullcr-p. Even Manga Plus is doing this for its lesser known series.
I rather read scans again than reading literal translation that make no sense.
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LastPage 3
Joined: 13 Jun 2010
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:27 pm
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L0ken wrote: | "In this innovative initiative, we have combined our unique machine translation technology with proofreading by professional translators using Mantra Engine"
I hope at least this part is true. They say efficiency translator emproves by half, but people are rightfully skeptical. |
Scanlators can get a chapter out same day, there's no reason why pros can't. This is simply a way to underpay translators. Especially for a series like Magiyome with lots of unique terminology, I don't doubt that translator had to rewrite an awful lot of the chapter and was probably paid pennies.
Cho_Desu wrote: | Most readers in this market don't notice minor mistakes, let alone the difference between thoughtful prose and clumsy diction. (In fact, any degree of creativity in translation is automatically seen as "inauthentic" to large swaths of online fandom. They're likely going to get all the stilted writing they could ever ask for from now on.) |
If I were a cynical person I would almost think this was a deliberate campaign by people.
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Ojamajo LimePie
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:47 pm
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I refuse to touch any release that I know is using AI translation. It's an insult to hardworking translators, who already get treated like dirt.
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OtomeGay
Joined: 14 Oct 2021
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:49 pm
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Oh, gross. No thanks I like my manga translated by real human beings who are actually paid a decent salary, thank you very much.
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