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ErikaD.D
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And as usual -- it's always the dead mom. While the father is yet another widowed anime /manga dad #100th or more. This cliche is getting overused and even out of control, because I feel like every anime and manga nowadays has a character whose mother is deceased while father is alive but never the other way around. And also, wasn't in the book version that the MC lost his father but his mother lives if I remember correctly? If's true, why Studio Ghibli changed the plot? Last edited by ErikaD.D on Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:53 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Atelier
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They already said in an interview that the film is not based on the book, and they just took the title. |
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theotheranimeman
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Doesn't sound extremely original or interesting, but the art and animation makes or breaks a Ghibli movie, I guess
In my case the minimalist advertising didn't really work since I can't say I'm leaping at a chance to go see the film |
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residentgrigo
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So that´s the plot. Ghibli 101. Even Ninokuni did this but it´s the execution that matters and Miyazaki never failed to deliver.
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xScar
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It's such a mish-mash of Miyazaki's previous works that unfortunately doesn't push too far into any new territory. It's almost hard to imagine he wasn't purposefully trying to self-plagiarize at times.
One point that really bothered me is how Mahito interacts and grows with the world(s). In Spirited Away, you really feel Chihiro's growth, as you come to know the world (and her place in it) alongside her. In How Do You Live, you're totally lost while Mahito seemingly just accepts everything as if it's normal ???? I don't think the animation can really lift this one up either. It's your typical Ghibli-fare, sure, but when there are so many other movies and even TV series doing more interesting and experimental animation, Ghibli just feels old. The most eye-catching cut in the entire movie to me is the hospital fire, and that's at the very beginning of the movie. There are a few grotesque (and almost horror-esque) scenes that are cool, but nothing that's all that different from what he's done in Spirited Away or Princess Mononoke. Meh. |
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Matros
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Well, I sincerely hope you never talk about animation again. What a bad take. Your typical Ghibli-fare is still far above what the rest of the industry does. Good animation is good regardless of when it's made, the principles of animation are still the same as they were 20+ years ago. And you actually have animators on the movie that deserve the title "movie animators". Being experimental for the sake of it would be jarring and out of place, that's not what people want and expect from Miyazaki. Also, it seems that the reviewer didn't get the memo and talked about the entire film. |
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lossthief
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Reviewers aren't obligated to take part in the film's PR/marketing scheme. I see no reason for a review of a film that has been fully released to shy away from discussing the story. |
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xScar
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I hope you've seen the movie, because you are quick to point your guns. I meant to say the animation alone can't make a movie great. Ghibli has great animation, but if the story and pacing is a mess, it can only do so much to help. I'm also not saying older titles don't have good animation or that it -needs- to be experimental, but when you look at other major anime films and directors who have taken the stage over the past decade or two, "typical Ghibli-fare" doesn't necessarily indicate such a leg up over other movies as it used to. If you don't mind, could you tell me what about the animation and/or what scenes keeps Ghibli at the top? |
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Matros
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Unlike other prolific directors Miyazaki let's the expressions and body language do the talking. He puts lots of emphasis on motion, he's particular about what and how characters do something. Not to mention the fact that most elements are hand drawn especially cuts that involve backgrounds with complex camera work, there's no reliance on CGI or execessive compositing that obscures the animation. You rarely see something like this outside a Ghibli movie because it takes one literally years: https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/11896 It may not be flashy or anything, but there's arguably more finesse. |
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xScar
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And this is exactly why I felt let down with this movie. There were definitely minute flashes of what we like to see from him -- spoiler[like how Mahito whinces away when his aunt tries to get him to feel her belly at the beginning. You instantly know his mindset of the situation with just one action. ] Things shown, not said. But I think most of the "showing" in this movie comes from the settings rather than Mahito, which isn't particularly what i was looking for in such an internal struggle type of movie. The animation also gives these tonal whiplashes too, which kept taking me out of the film. spoiler[When Mahito hits himself with the rock, a ridiculous amount of blood gushes out. It's almost laughable for a scene that's so serious.] Maybe I just need another watch of it. Last edited by xScar on Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:55 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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trilaan
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I'm glad to get some insight into what this film is about as I had been concerned I would find it boring from the premise. I much prefer Miyazaki's more fantastic tales. The Wind Rises didn't do much for me. This sounds good, though. Kind of like Akira Kurosawa's Dreams.
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Lann
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Too many people are quick to jump to Miyazaki's defense. Same thing happened to The Wind Rises where you could take out half an hour at the very least without the plot suffering. It made the film boring and slow.
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kotomikun
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Wolf Children is one example of the reverse; although, I have some other gender-bias issues with that movie. Promotion for this film has been pretty obtuse; I've not seen anything besides that one sketch of the bird-man and its inscrutable title. I guess "Ghibli + Miyazaki" is all you really need. Given how long it took to make, it seems like it's probably the actual for-real-this-time last production from him, but you never know. |
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Mike Ferguson
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Atelier
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Or people just don't feel the same way you do ? Taking out 30 minutes out of The Wind Rises sounds simply insane to me. |
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