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The King of Harts



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:44 pm Reply with quote
Everyone knows that there are people who hate fanservice and people that love mech shows, but what are those little things that make you smile wide, or frown hard? Do you love characters with eye patches? Perhaps seeing small fighters wield big swords drives you insane? Lets discuss these little things only you would make notice when watching a show.

A little thing that I love is seeing mechs cross their arms. I don't know what it is, but something about a a gigantic robot crossing it's arms like shit's about to get real makes me giddier than a school girl. It's also something I always look for in a Gainax show with robots. Just recently I watched Gunbuster and I waited for the crossed arms, and when it happened...euphoria.

A little thing I hate also deals with robots, but its what I call "Bad Robot Physics". An example of BRP would be that robots, androids, persocoms, whatever, can't cry. I don't care if it's for dramatic effect, they don't have tear ducts. I love Mahoromatic, but every time I see Mahoro cry, I wanna punch my TV. Other things that fall under BRP are bleeding and spitting. I can give leeway on things like emotions and sometimes pain if it's set up right, but crying, bleeding, and spitting are not things a bucket of bolts can do.

Don't even get me started on Android 18 having a kid. OK, I get that she started out as human and that Gero "remodeled" her...but...I have a hard time believing Dr. Gero, while tearing up the insides of this dead girl and making her into a killing machine, went "You know what? I'm going to leave all her reproductive organs intact and untouched...just in case Wink ". Even then, though, something had to be damaged from all those punches to the gut she was taking for Super Saiyans. And then she's probably not very warm on the inside since, you know, she's mostly metal and not really alive.
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Gon*Gon



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:59 pm Reply with quote
I honestly don't understand what your definiton of "little" is, but for me.............


Like: lolis (get it? little ) Laughing, but a bit more seriously, the general consistency of character designs. In general character designs in nearly all anime/manga uses very similar formulas. So you rarely see very different looking out of place designs unless it's out of place. Exceptions of course are Panty and Stocking.


Hate: Protagonists are a bunch of "shalt no kill" PUSSIES. I can understand a protagonist trying to avoid taking a life out of pride. But sometimes their desire to not kill a VILLAIN just goes past common sense and just comes off as utterly retarded.
For example, in Gosick, spoiler[how Kujo knocked out a murderer and had the perfect opportunity to kill him. But instead he just ran out and left him with a large axe for him to wake up and pursue them again.]

Hate: Characters who are "scared" or "ashamed" of their powers. Case in point.....pretty much every single protagonist whose defining trait is possessing special powers, ever. These people NEVER have fun with their powers. They get bullied for being different. And idiots that they are, NEVER fight back. When they do fight back, they always feel so guilty over it.
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Yttrbio



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:36 pm Reply with quote
I mentioned it on another thread, but it probably belongs here: I hate giant war machines (human-shaped, for whatever reason) that inexplicably explode when disabled. Did you cut that mobile suit in half, or take out the cockpit? Well, what's left is going to explode after a brief pause. What's exploding? What are these things made out of? Some kind of naturally explosive material, only kept from blowing up by the willpower of the pilot? Thankfully, the pause gives me enough time to roll my eyes without missing anything. Thank God for Broken Blade, where the fact that the mechs are moved by magic somehow makes leads to them being more realistic.


One of the things that I love is when voice actors (or, more commonly, actresses) who have very well-defined acting voices are given jobs where they get to use a different, typically more normal one. I don't remember a thing about Tactical Roar except that a) it wasn't a particularly good show, and b) Noto Mamiko played a minor part where she sounded like someone whose vocal apparatus actually functioned like a normal human being's. Toyosaki Aki in Beelzebub gets to sound like someone who doesn't have an alcoholic potato in her mouth while talking.
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Tuor_of_Gondolin



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:40 pm Reply with quote
I have a vast list of little things that I hate. Vast! Really huge! But, I'll, uh, stick to a small one that most people wouldn't even notice at all.

It has to do with military ranks. In most Western militaries, and I suppose (guardedly) Eastern ones, too, there are three things to be aware of when it comes to ranks and titles and whatnot: the actual rank, the way someone of that rank is addressed, and what someone of that rank is actually doing. Let me explain.

Let's take the US Navy rank of Lieutenant Commander (O-4, for those keeping track). Lieutenant Commander is the *name* of the Rank. If someone asked what Rank that officer was, then you'd say, "He's a Lieutenant Commander." However, this is NOT how you address that officer. That is, you don't actually call him that.

When you actually address a Lieutenant Commander, you actually *call* him, "Commander So-and-So". Note, you DO NOT say something like, "Good morning, Lieutenant Commander So-and-So." The Lieutenant part is dropped when you're addressing the officer. This is true of ALL ranks in all branches of the US military: Vice Admirals are addressed, "Admiral X". Major Generals are addressed, "General Y." And so on.

So, in a show like One Piece, where, say, Luffy is fighting some Vice Admiral. When that officer's men address him, they SHOULD NOT call him, "Vice Admiral Whatever", but "Admiral Whatever." Pretty much all anime, even those who are supposedly military-focused anime, make this mistake.

Then there is the 3rd part I talked about: your job. This is different than your rank. The term, "C.O." means "Commanding Officer", which typically is the guy in charge of a particular unit. It has NOTHING to do with rank except that typically the more important the job, the higher the rank of the guy doing it, but that isn't always the case (say due to casualties or maybe for other reasons).

The reason this sort of stuff annoys me to no end is that the people who come up with these stories *should* know this stuff. It's not like it's a secret or anything... it's pretty basic stuff. The only reason I can think of is that *maybe* the Japanese military doesn't use similar nomenclature when it comes to this sort of thing. I suppose I shouldn't expect the guys doing the dub to include this stuff when they translate things, but... well, I do. Razz

So there you go, a nit pick that I can never seem to quite ignore.
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Errinundra
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:25 pm Reply with quote
Little things I love: when the emotionless girl smiles.

I know it's cheesy and I feel totally manipulated but it's always a killer moment.

What I hate: when the villain laughs. I'm watching and I'm going, "Don't laugh, please don't start laughing... CHRIST, they laughed!", followed by a strong urge to throw something at the screen.
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Cam0



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:20 am Reply with quote
I hate how people shout their attack names in most shounens. It isn't so bad if the name of the attack isn't very long, but when it's like Luffys Gomu Gomu it just sounds lame. Natsu from Fairy Tail is another good example. Remember when he defeated spoiler[Zero (or Brain)? Well it started out really cool with the awesome music, but then his stupid attack move had such a ridiculous and long name that it just ruined the moment.]

I guess I like those moments where the hero surprises the baddy with his new powers. You know when the we get a close shot of the baddys face and his pupils go small and he goes "huh?". Like Ichigo using spoiler[hollowfiction against Grimmjow the first time.]


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The King of Harts



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:29 am Reply with quote
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One of the things that I love is when voice actors (or, more commonly, actresses) who have very well-defined acting voices are given jobs where they get to use a different, typically more normal one.

I think the only time Laura Bailey has gotten to use her natural voice was in Moon Phase. Every other time she's pitching it up for young girls/teenages, dropping it low for boys (awkward phrasing), or sexifying it for more mature characters.

A favorite example of mine of "stepping out" is Carrie Savage, who usually does cute, innocent characters like Rakki from Haibane Renmei or Koyomi from Girls Bravo, but in Shin Chan she played Penny, who is an evil, twisted, violent little cuss bag of a toddler. In fact, Carrie Savage's role as Penny is what makes me want Cherami Leigh to do Stocking in PSG. The stark contrast of Cherami Leigh's voice which, like Savage's, is usually associated with innocent little girls coming out of the vulgar and crude mouth of Stocking would be amazingly hilarious.

I never thought of it, but VA's stepping out of their norm is pretty neat.
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EireformContinent



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:29 am Reply with quote
I love transformations. From simple "going Super Sayiaaaaan" to long Magical Girls Dance. Those serious, played with poses and orchestral music (MKR) to self-parodies (Utena, Star Diver). I don't have to check the show, but I always check youtube for transformation sequences and collect them on playlist. I'm probably the only person who never complains that such a sequences takes precious time. My dream anime fight would be enemies just transforming and transforming all over till one drop.

@Tuor_of_Gondolin
Lack of research is always annoying. It can be forgiven when it's minor point of the plot, but when some informations are the most important part of the story it's pretty annoying. Especially when some informations can be checked on wiki.

Don't like: fights. Especially those based solely on power-ups. Tactics? Diplomacy? Plot? Anything, besides exchange of the hits? In Dragon Ball it drives me crazy: why do they still fight? It would be more interesting and reasonable if the enemies stood proudly face to face (fanfare), takes cards and pens (drums), witting their power levels(disturbing ambient), one, two, three (dramatic silence), show it to each other! Orchestral music, angels choirs, cheers, lost one leaves in disgrace. War is over, screen time, environment and lifes of the bystanders are saved!

Fetish fuel -long robes and hairs. I don't know how the characters are able to move and fight while their sleeves, carpets and hairs are blowing dramatically in the wind, but I absolutely adore that. For that nice effect I give extra points in my ratings Razz


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Cam0



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:11 am Reply with quote
Oh yeah I guess I should add overly large boobs to my list of things I hate. Those boobs that look very awkward and ugly. Like the girls from Highschool of the Dead (the nurse in particular) or Matsumoto Rangiku from Bleach, though the boob sizes seem to differ from time to time in HotD. And I also hate boys with girly voices.
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Tris8



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:27 am Reply with quote
The King of Harts wrote:
Don't even get me started on Android 18 having a kid. OK, I get that she started out as human and that Gero "remodeled" her...but...I have a hard time believing Dr. Gero, while tearing up the insides of this dead girl and making her into a killing machine, went "You know what? I'm going to leave all her reproductive organs intact and untouched...just in case Wink ". Even then, though, something had to be damaged from all those punches to the gut she was taking for Super Saiyans. And then she's probably not very warm on the inside since, you know, she's mostly metal and not really alive.
Lol, I hadn't even thought about that Anime hyper. I don't take DBZ very seriously so that never occurred to me, but now that you mention it....

Little things in anime that I love would be when there's a tiny innocent looking girl, and some brawny guy assumes she's weak, goes to take her out and gets his ass handed to him =D. I know it's a little cliche, but I always love watching them get underestimated and then blowing everyone away (sometimes literally, especially if you're Lina Inverse) with their skills/powers. And the expressions on everyone's faces afterwards: priceless =).

Things I don't like... when the 'power of friendship' creates a way to turn around an impossible situation. I hate that. I just finished watching Kampfer, which was actually turning out to be surprisingly fun and enjoyable. Good fight scenes, great animation, fanservice but not over the top, and then..... they were completely cornered but they started glowing with the power of their love!!! I'm not kidding you. The power of their love allowed them to beat the bad guy and Senou to return to his harem! One of the most disappointing endings I've ever seen.
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Haterater



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:38 am Reply with quote
Not sure if I can really call it little, but I'm also not a fan of characters shouting their attacks. In the back of my mind, I think:

1) The opponent should strike while the other is saying the attack. Why let them finish?

2) You can get your attacks off much faster if you didn't have to say it.

3) Not saying your attacks means the enemy won't know what your move is before you start it. More chance of strategy attacks this way.

But when some anime actually do some of the above, I'm very glad to see it. More interesting for me.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:34 pm Reply with quote
I'll probably think of tons of things later on, but one of the little things I hate is whenever we see a side view of a character wearing glasses, the animators normally don't draw in the part of the arm of the glasses that would cover a character's eyeball. So basically it looks like the glasses are magically levitating in front of the character's face. Drives me nuts.
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Cam0



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:20 pm Reply with quote
Oh yeah, that just made me remember another thing I hate. I hate people who cover their own eye(s) with their own hair. I can think of countless examples, but I just think it's stupid that they can actually see something through their hair.

Yeah made me think of yet another one. I hate those people who keep their eyes shut the whole time. Like Gin from Bleach. How is he supposed to be so strong when he keeps his eyes shut the whole time. I guess most anime characters could become the Daredevil, since they can fight while basically being blindfolded
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Gon*Gon



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:01 pm Reply with quote
My guess is...those character's eyes aren't entirely shut. They just have very small eyes, sorta like squinting, but just halfway closed eyelids.

And I just remembered something else I like.

Sudden mood whiplash. For example, the humor in Fullmetal Alchemist and Hellsing Ultimate. Something very dark and serious could just have happened less than a second ago, but **** that, here's a brief off-model slapstick moment! Everyone loves those moments.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:27 pm Reply with quote
I hate sniveling. Chronic sniveling like teenage Asahina. Boy or Girl, though.

I hate: Jumongous Boobs, particularly when it is taken as a given that I will be turned on by them.

I hate: Censorship. On principle. I really don't need to see (usually) what they are actually covering but I don't want anyone with hangups choosing what I see. And I further resent being in the position where it looks like looking at anime naughty-bits is what I care about.

I hate: squeaky-voice songs.

I hate: wasting time on posts like this.

I hate: overlarge-eye anime style.

I hate: lovestruck characters who choke at ER levels every time they have the chance to confess their feelings.

I hate: deus-ex-mechina solutions to things.

I hate: time warp/universe shift plots that erase everyone's memory of what happened and reset everything to happy happy. What's the point?

I hate: unnecessary narration. (go see The Third for example of this).

I hate: video games that are turned into anime.

I hate: anime that are turned into video games.

I hate: well that's it for now. I'm supposed to be working.
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