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MInamino Teku



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:22 am Reply with quote
I told him that whatever his interest that there ish an anime for that. So far with people i have met, that has come to be true. So i am in need of some assistance. (Oh, if this ish in the wrong place, i apologize. It just seemed like the most fitting) I am seeking good anime titles for certain things he likes. Here's a list.

He likes:
-archery
-surfing
-scuba diving
-snorkeling
-acting
-singing
-martial arts (www.bujinkanorangecounty.com)
-swimming
-partying
-trucks
-Latin and Asian women
-Beer (Corona or Guinness)
-Science Fiction
-Technology genre

That's pretty much it. Just a couple things about this guy, he's a man's man. So no shonen-ai or yaoi. I'm not sure on shojo or shojo-ai or yuri. Although lots of guys like yuri...

Thank you. ^^

Oh, i've noticed that i may come off as forcing him to like it. It's not like that at all. He's up for watching it, no problem. I just think he hasn't watched the right ones that would interest him so therefore, he doesnt like it in general. If i show him a right one, he'll at least like that one. I'm not trying to turn him into a giant anime freak. xD

Okay guys, i know many of you still think i'm trying to convert him when i'm not. Just showing him that anime isnt all bad as he may think it ish. If he shows an interest in one i will show him, then he could go on his merry way exploring more if he so chooses. If it doesnt interest him at all, then i shall quit.


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Nagisa
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:57 am Reply with quote
I'm not quite sure I follow here. Are you trying to "convert" your friend, or has your friend actually asked you if there's anime he'd be into? If you're trying to "convert" your friend, and you're just pushing anime on him, I'd say stop. Find other common interests to talk about. If you're just pushing your hobbies onto him uninvited, it's only going to antagonize him, and he won't really want to have anything to do with you because you'll just become "that irritating anime nerd." If he expresses an interest, then it's perfectly fine to share it with him, but don't throw it on him if he doesn't care for it to begin with. Your friends don't all have to like anime for you to be friends with them. Hell, my best friend, whom I've known for over a decade, absolutely hates anime, but that's obviously not an issue since we've been friends for nearly half our lives. I simply don't bring it up, because it'd be inappropriate to do so.

Sorry for the rant, and if your friend has expressed a specific interest in anime and wants to see some, then by all means find some titles you think he'd like and try them out. But if he flat-out doesn't like it, has no interest in it, and you're still trying to force it on him despite that, you're only going to end up causing a rift between you and your friend by pestering him. A lot of anime fans seem to think it's their duty to go out and "preach" to their friends about anime (particularly when their friends have specifically said that it's just not something they care for), and then they're surprised when it causes them to lose said friends. I'd rather not see that happen if I can help it.
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DuelLadyS



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:38 am Reply with quote
I find it hard to believe you know someone who like both martial arts and sci-fi/ Technology... and can't find an anime to show him!

I agree with Nagisa as well... unless he's asking you to pick a show for him to watch, this is a pretty futile effort. Some people just dislike the style of anime. Some people dislike animation in general. No carefully-chosen viewing material will change that.

Besides, interest in other aspects does not nessecarily convert to anime. My mom has been a diehard Trekkie and Steven King nut since I was a friggin' toddler. You know what her favorite anime is? Ranma 1/2. Goes to show ya, you never can tell. Wink
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E-Arkham



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:43 am Reply with quote
Nagisa speaks truth. Read and then reread her post a couple of times.

If your friend doesn't like anime and has no interest in liking it, don't bother.

If he's open to watching a show if it's interesting to him, introduce him to GTO. You don't get more "man's man" than Onizuka.

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Xenofan 29A



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:55 am Reply with quote
I'll reiterate what others have said. DON'T force anime upon your friend. I have many more friends at my school because I don't force them to watch things in my DVD collection; I like doing many things besides watching anime.

On the other hand, if he's not adamantly against the very idea of watching an anime, I suggest something like Cowboy Bebop. It's episodic, has widespread appeal, and fits in more with a western mindset than most anime.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:19 am Reply with quote
What Nagisa said was true. You might just annoy him or something. If you're really friends, you'll stay friends whether or not he watches anime. I have more friends who do not watch anime compared to my friends who watch anime - and that doesn't bother me at all. In fact, I'm OK with the fact that I'm the only one who watches anime in my group of friends, so that if one of them decides to watch anime I'm their go-to girl.

Isn't this a recommendation thread? Shouldn't this be disallowed?
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MInamino Teku



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:07 pm Reply with quote
Nagisa wrote:
I'm not quite sure I follow here. Are you trying to "convert" your friend, or has your friend actually asked you if there's anime he'd be into? If you're trying to "convert" your friend, and you're just pushing anime on him, I'd say stop. Find other common interests to talk about. If you're just pushing your hobbies onto him uninvited, it's only going to antagonize him, and he won't really want to have anything to do with you because you'll just become "that irritating anime nerd." If he expresses an interest, then it's perfectly fine to share it with him, but don't throw it on him if he doesn't care for it to begin with. Your friends don't all have to like anime for you to be friends with them. Hell, my best friend, whom I've known for over a decade, absolutely hates anime, but that's obviously not an issue since we've been friends for nearly half our lives. I simply don't bring it up, because it'd be inappropriate to do so.

Sorry for the rant, and if your friend has expressed a specific interest in anime and wants to see some, then by all means find some titles you think he'd like and try them out. But if he flat-out doesn't like it, has no interest in it, and you're still trying to force it on him despite that, you're only going to end up causing a rift between you and your friend by pestering him. A lot of anime fans seem to think it's their duty to go out and "preach" to their friends about anime (particularly when their friends have specifically said that it's just not something they care for), and then they're surprised when it causes them to lose said friends. I'd rather not see that happen if I can help it.


I'm not trying to convert him, just show him that anime isnt that bad. He didn't give me a reason why he didn't like it. He just doesnt. And i wont be always on him about it. It's just a little challenge i gave myself. We have other interests in common, like archery. We're both on the archery team. I'm just showing him that anime isnt a bad thing. It's not like we'll stop being friends. xP

But i'll take your advice to preaching. I wont force it on him, but i'll slowly ease some things. I wont simply take all the titles i find that would interest him and throw them at him. I wanna find that perfect anime just for him. ^^
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MInamino Teku



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:10 pm Reply with quote
DuelLadyS wrote:
I find it hard to believe you know someone who like both martial arts and sci-fi/ Technology... and can't find an anime to show him!

I agree with Nagisa as well... unless he's asking you to pick a show for him to watch, this is a pretty futile effort. Some people just dislike the style of anime. Some people dislike animation in general. No carefully-chosen viewing material will change that.

Besides, interest in other aspects does not nessecarily convert to anime. My mom has been a diehard Trekkie and Steven King nut since I was a friggin' toddler. You know what her favorite anime is? Ranma 1/2. Goes to show ya, you never can tell. Wink


Oh i found a bunch of titles already. I'm just seeking other animes that are pretty good that I've never heard of and could look into.
Well i have no idea why he doesnt like it. It would have certainly helped though. xD Although he does seem pretty keen on the idea. The other day he asked me if i have found any yet and i said a few. So it's probably not the art style or animation...

xD I'll try reaching out to his interests first and see if he likes it before i move on to random animes.
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MInamino Teku



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:14 pm Reply with quote
jetz wrote:
What Nagisa said was true. You might just annoy him or something. If you're really friends, you'll stay friends whether or not he watches anime. I have more friends who do not watch anime compared to my friends who watch anime - and that doesn't bother me at all. In fact, I'm OK with the fact that I'm the only one who watches anime in my group of friends, so that if one of them decides to watch anime I'm their go-to girl.

Isn't this a recommendation thread? Shouldn't this be disallowed?


Yeah i read that. ^^;; But one of the moderators posted here and the thread didn't close down...
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KyuuA4



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:19 pm Reply with quote
I have to wonder. What about Animation in general? If "he's a man's man" -- then it's possible that his stance on all animation is negative.

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Maryohki



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:23 pm Reply with quote
I agree that GTO would be a good choice. He might like Nerima Daikon Brothers for the singing aspect, if he likes insane comedy.

Good luck with this. If he's actually open to trying anime, more power to you both!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:46 pm Reply with quote
E-Arkham wrote:
Nagisa speaks truth. Read and then reread her post a couple of times.

Nagisa's a guy.

KyuuA4 wrote:
What about Animation in general?

Because regardless what anime fans think, non-fans classify American and Japanese animation differently. A lot of guys like shows like Family Guy and most people in general like Disney, Pixar, etc., but they also dislike anime. I find it perfectly understandable if someone likes American animation and hates Japanese animation.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:56 pm Reply with quote
I'm going to be a voice of dissent in the whole "don't try to convert people" attitude. A part of why anime is as mainstream as it is right now is that fans got others to check out some title and they liked it. (Hold on Nagisa, don't smack me upside the head yet!)

I'm not saying that you should grab your buddy, duct tape him to a chair, and force him to watch The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya until his head explodes, but if he's willing to at least give anime a shot once or twice, go for it MInamino Teku.

As Nagisa pointed out, the level of anti-anime attitude is very important. If your friend flat out hates anime, you shouldn't even bother. If it's more of an "anime is Pokemon or porn" type of thinking, then I don't see anything wrong with offering proof that that's not true, assuming your friend is willing to endulge you. If you're friend is open-minded, and you don't try to shove anime down his throat, you might be able to get him to watch something without force just by being a good buddy.

You could always offer an exchange. Is there something he likes to do that you haven't tried but you don't like either? Offer to try to share his hobby if he'll give your's a shot. No harm in that, right? Heck, you might end up with another thing in common.

It all boils down to this: Is your friend the kind of person who might actually agree to watch an anime without massive effort on your part. If you think it would take a lot of badgering, don't do it. If you think all it would take is a "oh come on, I'll provide the snacks for free!" type of offer, then why not take a shot. The worst that could happen, assuming your friend is a rational person, is that he still won't be very fond of anime and you just won't bring it up again.

Again, do not badger or antagonize. Ask politely or casually bring up a plot that you think he'd really like and see if he's interested before specifically mentioning it's the plot of an anime series. Do not surprise him with this fact after he's agreed to watch, make sure he knows ahead of time. Again, the worst that can happen is a "no, I don't think I'd like that afterall." If he rejects, you just leave it alone and enjoy what other common interests you have.

I love anime, but I wouldn't sacrifice a friendship for it. (Not that I have many friends to speak of. Sad )
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:00 pm Reply with quote
Like it or not some people just don't like it, or aren't interested, or in some cases will just fake interest for your sake. Even if you get them to find something they like there's still no guarantee they'll be an anime fan. I have friends who like a few of my anime movies, but in general they dislike anime. You know what though? That's fine.

To each his own, some people just don't share your tastes and while you may not think you're forcing it on him the sheer fact that you are here demonstrates that you are to some degree. If you're friends then it should be fine that your interests don't line up entirely. The other fact that you have to think so hard to find a series he might like may also demonstrate that even if you find one and he enjoys it it's still likely he wouldn't get to a point you could consider him a fan.

Maybe it's just the fact that people trying to convert others to anime fans bothers me. It shows a degree of arrogance as though their interests aren't good enough and only anime will do. It's like a member of a church harassing you to follow their doctrine and attend their mass, or a friend who loves rap pushing song after song on you even though you've told them you're not interested in it. Anime is just a medium/hobby, one of thousands out there which are all good to some degree to millions of people. Some people just aren't going to dig it like you, and if they do they may not dig it enough to adopt it as a hobby of their own. People are different and unique, you shouldn't try so hard to change them.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:39 pm Reply with quote
MInamino Teku wrote:
-singing


Chance Pop Session is about singing, or rather three young girls rising up in the music industry under the guidance of there favorite legendary singer. And yes there is actually singing.

Aquarian Age - Sign for Evolution, is mostly a scifi/fantasy plot, but it revolves around a newly discovered pop singer, who's songs end up attracting more than he bargained for.

Perfect Blue is a psychological thriller about a singer/actress who has to deal with all the things that come along with fame, including creepy stalkers.


Be aware the first one can be kinda girly, so you might want to take that into account. I think it is really touching and good though.


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MInamino Teku wrote:
-swimming

Oh you must check out episode 4 of Goldenboy. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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