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This Week in Games - Who Owns Sonic's Freedom Fighters?




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Ryuji-Dono



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:01 am Reply with quote
Sorry to break it up to you, but it's been said that Alex Hedgefox has been known to spreading some misleading things so... That document may be fake.
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Wyvern



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:01 am Reply with quote
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At the risk of sounding brusque, I think the best course of action is to move on.


Yep. The problem with bringing back the Freedom Fighters is that they're just the tip of the iceberg. There are literally hundreds of Sonic characters who came out of the same comics universe as the Freedom Fighters, some of which are great and many of which are embarrassing. The moment you bring back Princess Sally and friends, people will start asking when Sega will be bringing back such luminaries as Dulcy the Dragon, Sleuth Doggy Dog, and Locke, Knuckles' abusive father who microwaved him when he was a baby.


And those characters are mucked up with a whole different set of legal issues, because they might belong to Sega, or they might belong to Archie Comics, or they might belong to former Sonic writer Ken Penders, because Archie literally can't find the legal documents that say who owns those characters.

As much as I would love to see Sega bring back the Freedom Fighters so Sally can finally get gay married to the AI who lives in her phone (I'm only half-joking, those two actually have the best-written romance in the whole franchise) the can of worms it would open would probably be too much to bear.
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Beatdigga



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:07 am Reply with quote
One could make the case that the movies did well is because they specifically avoided the bloat of the latter Sonic franchise, keeping the focus on adding at most, one or two characters or concepts, and the Freedom Fighters represent everything they want to avoid, a lot of bloat.
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Blanchimont



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:45 am Reply with quote
Tales of Graces Remaster came out this week.
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Nigel Planter



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:28 pm Reply with quote
Beatdigga wrote:
One could make the case that the movies did well is because they specifically avoided the bloat of the latter Sonic franchise, keeping the focus on adding at most, one or two characters or concepts, and the Freedom Fighters represent everything they want to avoid, a lot of bloat.


I never knew that the "Freedom Fighters" were a thing beyond the old short-lived Sonic cartoon. I guess there was comics that followed up after it was cancelled but how many people read those? Most people only know Sonic from the games. I don't think the old cartoon and comic characters matter much to people who only play the games who are the main audiences for the movie. Comic tie-ins for franchises always seem to be easily ignored
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Nekbone



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:58 pm Reply with quote
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The policy goes on to explain that Square Enix reserves the right to refuse services or products to people who "engage in action [...] against one of our employees or partners that exceeds socially acceptable behavior",


I'd be curious to know how they plan to "refuse" a product to a customer. It sounds like an empty threat on their part unless they can tell a storefront to not sell you the next Dragon Quest game. And if they can do that then we're in a bigger corporate hellscape than I thought. Personally this just sounds like a class action suit waiting to happen to me if they actually follow through.

It doesn't sound like this is about people saying Dawntrail or Wuk Lamat is bad though. This sounds like it's actual actual threats and criminal acts not just saying a game, character, or actor sucks. All the sources I'm seeing are citing things like the guy who threatened to Kyoani Square-Enix's headquarters if they didn't refund him all his Square-Enix games and FF7R fans who threatened to kill Nomura and other staff members for not confirming their ship in Rebirth. I think that's what they mean by making unreasonable demands and not simply re-recording dialog. They actually did the latter in the 7.1 patch where they went back and re-recorded a number of Wuk Lamat's English lines due to how much criticism they got and how much of a meme they became in the NA community. So it seems they felt that was a reasonable request by fans.
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AiddonValentine



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:59 pm Reply with quote
Leave it to Nintendo to leave a bunch of rumor mill clout chasers sweating bullets before stealth-dropping the Switch 2 announcement in the morning. Nothing much to say other than I find the name really bland, mostly because a lot of people are clearly too stupid to take five minutes to look it up online. For the most part, we basically haven't learned anything new aside from it existing and...something going on with the new Joy-Cons literally drifting. As for people who are claiming there won't be a gimmick: Ha. HA. HA, if you haven't been paying attention the past twenty years, you are clearly a fool. Will definitely be tuning in on April 2.

As for rumor mills and leaks, I might find the information intriguing but the people who peddle in them are the absolute most insufferable, vain, and contemptible people to walk the Earth. Seriously, there has never been a leaker who didn't vanish up their own ass and suffocate on their farts. Pyoro, Midori, PH Brazil, NateTheHate, Jeff Grubb, take your pick, these people even outside of their clout chasing are the absolutel worst from not being able to handle criticism to even outright digital yellowface. And yet as long as they have their sources (which will eventually dry up) people will handwave away their rancidness which is why leak culture is a cesspool and has only gotten worse.

Anyway, I'm going to rewatch Castlevania: Nocturne to look for Easter eggs
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light turner



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:49 pm Reply with quote
Nekbone wrote:
All the sources I'm seeing are citing things like the guy who threatened to Kyoani Square-Enix's headquarters if they didn't refund him all his Square-Enix games and FF7R fans who threatened to kill Nomura and other staff members for not confirming their ship in Rebirth.


The part about unreasonable demands, apologies, and defamation are 100% about Jairus. Guy/girl (who knows at this point) who spent the better part of 4 years being a complete psychopath who roleplays as Jessie Rasberry to the point they used AI to replicate Jessie's English voice to say things in-character in regards to both Aerith and Tifa as well as their English voice actors. They also threatened to kill Kitase, Toriyanma, Hamagushi, Nomura, and Nojima if Jessie wasn't brought back and put into FF7 and they kill off Tifa. Got so crazy to the point some of them refused to discuss anything in English for a time out of fear for their safety.
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