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Firefly251
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:08 pm
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DD2 deserves nothing as game was a mess gameplay wise & performance wise.
Also Wilds likely get most anticipated, but the beta might have soured people due to the crazy performance issues many had.
ER likely wins GOTY because its other nominees are not near its tier ;/
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WANNFH
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:21 pm
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Damn, this year sure looks like a sweep for Asian-based studios in general, even outside of some controversies like having literal DLC as part of competition the GOTY (I have no complaint for SoE been there over other possible choices as long as it been a good venture for quite a time, but some people sure have a word about that).
Firefly251 wrote: | Also Wilds likely get most anticipated, but the beta might have soured people due to the crazy performance issues many had. |
Even if like MonHun,
Wilds surely not get the most anticipated in a year where literal GTA is part of same nomination, ain't no way.
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Kougeru
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:41 pm
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the important thing is that Usada Pekora was nominated.
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light turner
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:02 pm
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I'm actually surprised how many Asian games are on the list for Game of the Year. My pick would be either Metaphor or Black Myth Wukong. Not a fan of DLC being on there (or remakes) but at least the one remake is a full on remake and re-imagining and not just a lazy recreation of the old game but worse like Silent Hill 2 or Persona 3.
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LinkTSwordmaster
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:53 pm
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It really looks like that announcement they made about DLC being allowed was mentioned just so that Elden Ring would have an excuse to win GotY again. It should instead be in the category Final Fantasy XIV is in for ongoing game. This should have been a race this year between Astro, Wukong, FF7R pt2, and Metaphor.
Firefly251 wrote: | DD2 deserves nothing as game was a mess gameplay wise & performance wise.
Also Wilds likely get most anticipated, but the beta might have soured people due to the crazy performance issues many had. |
Agreed on both points, even after learning the mobile Monster Hunter game coming up makes you gacha characters rather than craft armor, it still looks like a more exciting Monster Hunter game. Wilds seems completely divorced from the brilliant parkour and level design that MH4U had. Wilds wasn't even running smoothly on a souped up RTX 3070 system, and it's unnecessary hubris on Capcom's part to be using an engine that tanks your framerate in towns because each individual clothed NPC adds new/extra CPU calculations to the game.
It's important to remember - this show is pretty much the "2025 video game ad presentation show". Actually-watching it for any sort of serious cultural value is a meme.
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WANNFH
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 4:04 pm
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Kougeru wrote: | the important thing is that Usada Pekora was nominated. |
Gotta be dang funny if our war criminal actually win, even considering the backlash against VTubers in general in the West.
LinkTSwordmaster wrote: | It really looks like that announcement they made about DLC being allowed was mentioned just so that Elden Ring would have an excuse to win GotY again. |
I don't think it's about GOTY winning in particular, but I dang sure they want to give SoE something while trying to mellow things.
Also for reminder: DLC were allowed to be nominated at TGA even before this year (just last year there was Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty which competed for Best Narrative and lost) or even actually won (Witcher 3: Blood and Wine for Best RPG), so it's not a wild first case. It just the amount of nominations for SoE that is strike down the most, outside of actual GOTY nomination.
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Gem-Bug
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 4:44 pm
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LinkTSwordmaster wrote: | It really looks like that announcement they made about DLC being allowed was mentioned just so that Elden Ring would have an excuse to win GotY again. It should instead be in the category Final Fantasy XIV is in for ongoing game. This should have been a race this year between Astro, Wukong, FF7R pt2, and Metaphor.
It's important to remember - this show is pretty much the "2025 video game ad presentation show". Actually-watching it for any sort of serious cultural value is a meme. |
Exactly; none of who wins or what categories matter at all; this thing has and always will a big advertising popularity contest. At least they let Geoff out of his suspended animation and get to move around and live for a couple hours.
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BadNewsBlues
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 4:58 pm
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LinkTSwordmaster wrote: | Agreed on both points, even after learning the mobile Monster Hunter game coming up makes you gacha characters rather than craft armor, it still looks like a more exciting Monster Hunter game. Wilds seems completely divorced from the brilliant parkour and level design that MH4U had. |
How divorced was World & Rise was from 4 Ultimate?
light turner wrote: | My pick would be either Metaphor or Black Myth Wukong. Not a fan of DLC being on there (or remakes) but at least the one remake is a full on remake and re-imagining and not just a lazy recreation of the old game but worse like Silent Hill 2 or Persona 3. |
Weird I thought everyone wanted these remakes to be exactly or near exactly the way the orignal games were now Persona 3 Relod & Silent Hill 2 are lazy?
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LinkTSwordmaster
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:05 pm
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BadNewsBlues wrote: |
LinkTSwordmaster wrote: | Agreed on both points, even after learning the mobile Monster Hunter game coming up makes you gacha characters rather than craft armor, it still looks like a more exciting Monster Hunter game. Wilds seems completely divorced from the brilliant parkour and level design that MH4U had. |
How divorced was World & Rise was from 4 Ultimate?
light turner wrote: | My pick would be either Metaphor or Black Myth Wukong. Not a fan of DLC being on there (or remakes) but at least the one remake is a full on remake and re-imagining and not just a lazy recreation of the old game but worse like Silent Hill 2 or Persona 3. |
Weird I thought everyone wanted these remakes to be exactly or near exactly the way the orignal games were now Persona 3 Relod & Silent Hill 2 are lazy? |
Rise/Sunbreak aren't honestly that great either. With all of the anti-damage frame-guard stuff that fires automatically, you can basically just eat hits left and right and not even worry about what the monster is doing. I run the same build on Iceborne and Sunbreak, and I actually have to time correctly my evading on Iceborne. I just stand in one spot and mash on Sunbreak. It's a downer. Weirdly enough, World and Iceborne actually have a lot in common with how MH2Dos presented some of its quest and farming on the PS2. World in particular has a lot of smartly-designed spots where you can climb or slide or jump off of a wall to hit monsters - the Ancient Forest, particularly the spiral parts of the tree - are usually the only really bad map design spots, they did good with like 80% of everything else. It's mainly how World handles the distribution of gems/armor decos that I've seen angering older players, in my experience. Otherwise World felt like more of a natural evolution of MH4U gameplay compared to the also-excellent Generations (which itself leans more similar to MHFrontier).
During the Wilds test weekend, the desert sands area is just way too empty. You spend way too much time on the back of your mount - the tactile fun of running and climbing over stuff is gone because you must mount to chase things. I fundamentally disagree with the inclusion of the Focus mode/weak spot stuff too because it takes a system from Sunbreak with Afflicted monsters that most people already hated and slows it down even further comparatively. There's some really fine/technical problems with how monsters move post-Sunbreak, and I think the devs tried to bandaid-patch it by shifting gears with Focus/weakpoint gameplay rather than actually-fix it.
I cant speak to Persona 3's quality, but it seemed fine enough and got the job done. From what I could tell, people were being weird and complaining about Silent Hill 2 doing nothing to "add anything new or fresh" to the game, but as someone that has played the original several times, it was a wonderful breath of fresh air to see the whole thing with newer functions that the also-excellent Shattered Memories made use of. It's one of those "you cant please everyone situations", because people complained Shattered Memories lacked "meaningful combat" on the Wii since you only could run rather than fight back. Yet they still complain when Silent Hill 2 adds the fighting back in on top of a lot of what Shattered did right. Personally as a fan, the only thing they did wrong was put the game on UE5 which runs like garbage because of DX12 having to load things in every 5 seconds - similar to the DX12 problems Dragon's Dogma 2 & Wilds has.
Personally, even with the loading stutters from UE5, Silent Hill 2 was everything I was hoping it would be as a longtime fan of the entire series. Though much like FF7R pt2 having weirdness in its original PS1 game, Silent Hill 2 has some weirdness in its PS2 version that translated into the remake. As such, I really see this as only a competition between Astro and Metaphor, if we're being honest. Elden Ring getting more accolades would be an eye-roll at this point.
Robotnik's Ring Racers is personally my true pick for GotY - it's the best Sonic game that's been released since Adventure 2 on Dreamcast. Being an indie title that's technically a fan-game, the largest tragedy of the gaming industry this year is that we won't ever officially be able to play Robotnik's Ring Racers on a Nintendo Switch.
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Top Gun
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:40 pm
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And thus the monument to Geoff's ego rolls on.
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malvarez1
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:42 pm
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I swear I’ll pitch a fit if Elden Ring wins GOTY.
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Dr. Wily
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:43 pm
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Top Gun wrote: | And thus the monument to Geoff's ego rolls on. |
I'm just excited to see how he manages to shove in his buddy Kojima somewhere!
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Soulwarfare
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:50 pm
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mind-boggling that they nominated a DLC over Silent Hill 2 Remake, Dragon's Dogma 2, Hellsdiver 2, Lorelei and the Laser Eyes, Persona 3: Reload, The Plucky Squire.
The dlc better not win...
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light turner
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:57 pm
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BadNewsBlues wrote: | Weird I thought everyone wanted these remakes to be exactly or near exactly the way the orignal games were now Persona 3 Relod & Silent Hill 2 are lazy? |
Persona 3 Reload had less content than the original game upon release and even after selling players some of the FES content back them as DLC later it still had cut content like the lack of choosing a sports club. And that's not getting into the people who wanted Portable content like female protagonist and social links.
Silent Hill 2's remake is just Silent Hill 2 from what I've seen people play of it. With a few random changes in dialog and narrative for the sake of having change. I would call that lazy myself.
If there's no reason to play the remake over the original then I don't see the point of rewarding the game by saying it's the best game of the year. That would just come off as saying gaming is so bad that we have to look at games that came out 20 years ago to find something good today. The only reason I can think of is the newer versions are a lot easier so people who don't like difficulty might find them more enjoyable or people who just turn their nose up at any game that's older than a few years and think anything before the current generation is unplayable due to graphics.
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tintor2
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:11 pm
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Mutliversus again? I have bad memories that they already awarded over KOFXV last years
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