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darkchibi07
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What was amusing for me was when the first character visuals for Delta appeared, I seriously thought the new Macross title will be girl idols vs. boy idols. Obviously that did not become a thing, but I thought that would have been neat considering idol anime for both genders around that time were at its prime.
In any case, BOY you can seriously pin-point the exact moment where Delta fell apart! I definitely agree with a lot of the negatives said. At least the music kicks ass especially the one where Reina and Makina start hacking. 
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dragonmastr
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Personally I didn't care very much for the mostly generic JPOP/KPOP type of music, Ikenai Borderline is probably the only song that I remember from Delta despite having watched the series twice. It might be unfair to expect Yoko Kanno-levels of greatness, but the focus on elevating the divas in Frontier was what really captured me, whereas Delta's focus on the standard JPOP girl group was far less intriguing. And it's not like I'm against bands or groups, I love me some Fire Bomber.
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Stelman257
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Yeeeah this one was preeetty rough sadly. Ikenai Borderline and Axia are the only things I really choose to remember from this show because everything else was not very good sadly.
It's funny Mirage was so overshadowed and lost in the show and it's ridiculously overstuffed cast that I think she became kind of an underdog for doujinshi and fanart creators of Macross. Mikumo was cool and funny in a sort of quirky way but even her character didn't go anywhere interesting. The idol group as a whole were yeah, pretty bland. Their designs do A TON of heavy lifting but aesthetics can only take a character so far if there's almost literally nothing else to them. I brought up Axia earlier because by the end of the show Kaname Buccaneer (I did not remember her name I had to look it up) was one of the few characters I even slightly cared about because at least she got a lil arc near the end of the first half of the show that was probably the last poignant thing before the plot began to collapse on itself. The worst thing is the absolute waste that was the Immelmann Dance though. He does that sick mech dance a couple of times in the really early episodes and I loved that it was this signature technique of Hayate's own funny way of piloting. Then after like episode 5 it disappears and he never does it again. Sad times. Man though, been nearly 9 years since this show aired, crazy how time flies. |
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Terraziel
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It was always weird to me, as a Macross fan, as a Kawamori fan, and despite having absolutely no interest in AKB48, that I always preferred AKB0048 to Delta.
AKB0048 is by no means great, It's voice acting and character design are.... better not mentioned, but it is utterly weird, in the good sense. Delta feels formulaic in comparison, trapped in its need to be Macross. |
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John the Dark Lord
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It seems like he really is. There was an interview back when the show premiered in 2016, where he said this: “While the Saab 35 Draken is a delta shaped craft, the name for Macross Delta came from elsewhere. The name actually originated from the fact I had to include the three main elements from Macross, the battles, songs and a love triangle relationship, as this is something the sponsor were steadfast on having. Each time I plan for a new Macross series, I always think that it could be about time to remove one of the three elements, such as the love triangle relationship, but the sponsor always says no (laughs).” The interview, in case you are wondering: https://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2016/05/28/shoji-kawamori-on-macross-delta-and-his-hopes-for-the-series/ |
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Zhou-BR
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My problem with Delta is how saggy it gets in its second half. It seems Kawamori and co. only had enough good ideas for 13 episodes, but still had to do two whole cours anyway. The compilation movies worked much better for me, and I was surprised with how emotional I got over the last one.
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dragonmastr
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LoL, yeah I remember watching AKB0048 and was simultaneously amazed that not only did some Mad Lad come up with such a weird concept but that it actually somehow worked. |
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Yune Amagiri
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The first half was definitely more thoughtful compared to the second, that's a given, but the second half wasn't bad enough to make me want to focus on the negative part since I've rewatched it three times, the last one literally 2 weeks ago (a friend came over and had been wanting to see it for a while), whether it was the first time while it was airing or recently, I've always had a good time watching this series ( more than all the others macross and the similar AKB's anime ) with its greatest strength within its musical aspect, many of its music and OST have yet to leave my top playlist.
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andyos
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"Overall, the story mostly stands well enough alone, but the ultimate conclusion in the second movie Zettai Live!!!"
Minor thing, but I'm pretty sure there's no way to square what happens in the TV version of Macross Delta with the Zettai Live!!! film. I won't go into spoiler details, but it relates to a backstory about a character's father that just doesn't line up. In other words, the Zettai Live!!! film is in the continuity established by the Passionate Walkure film, but incompatible with the TV series. (Much as the "Labyrinth of Time" short spun off from Macross Frontier is only compatible with the movie continuity, not least because it features a character who died in the TV version.) EDIT - Oh yes, and as I recall there's a character - one of the Windermere pilots - who's glimpsed alive in the Zettai Live!!! film, although he died in the TV series. I might be misremembering that, though. |
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YackDe
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Not that Delta didn't have some good music (Kaname's version of Giraffe Blues was nice), and it was obviously very successful in terms of Walkure's longevity. But think it says something that probably the best song from this decade of Macross is Toki no Meikyuu, which isn't even Delta.
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MFrontier
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Love triangles are kind of Macross' core component though it definitely wasn't executed well here.
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Angel'sArcanum
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I'll echo the sentiments of some of the others above to a degree: Delta has a solid front half, but the back half doesn't really develop much and just kind of spins its wheels, felt like a bit of a missed opportunity.
Even still, I'd say it's one of the better Macross things I'd seen personally, though I'm something of a Macross skeptic, but I liked the allegory it was handling, felt rather topical and implemented in an interesting way and seemed to offer a permutation on the "power of song" baked into Macross' DNA and how it can be used maliciously as well in this case. I actually liked Mirage and thought she had a good rapport with Hayate, and frankly, their pairing made more sense in my mind - Hayate and Freyja could work platonically as two ambitious people supporting each other pursuing their dreams, while things with Mirage felt a bit more vulnerable and real, I was really rooting for it. But then you see the problem with how Delta handles its time as it progresses and makes it very obvious who it favours, but if I have to knock it for that, it feels like a flaw present in SDF and what I've seen of 7 as well (or maybe I'm off base). Frontier was the only one where I felt like the love triangle could go either way, just a bummer Frontier's first 10 episodes sorta slug. Still need to check out the Delta movies though, sounds like even people a bit cold on Delta seem to like the second one especially? |
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Covnam
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While I enjoyed it overall, it was definitely weaker than Frontier. Only a couple of songs really landed for me (Ikenai Borderline and one of the endings iirc), though that's not too surprising for me as I'm not usually one for idol pop groups.
Personally, I liked that they went with a different route than the usual triangle where the guy can't decide between two girls. |
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nyaa
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While I definitely prefer Frontier to Delta Delta has it's own charms. I like the way the characters are designed and how they interact between each other. The combat scenes are extremely well done, quite a bit better than Frontier. Of course Freyja is my favorite character, she's kinda loopy and somewhat of a doofus, she's a lot closer to Ranka than Sheryl. I think I'm gonna bite the bullet and go ahead and buy to jp bluray set of this as I already have the two movies.
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Stelman257
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Oh absolutely, like I said a lot of people saw her as a huge underdog and she was quite popular at the time. It's just that yeah, she (and many others) fell victim to the cast bloat in the second half and they just didn't do anything interesting with her as her own character or her relationship with Hayate at all. There are probably countless harem animes that give any given girl more screentime with the protagonist than what Mirage got with Hayate after the initial few episodes. |
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