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Silver Kirin
Joined: 09 Aug 2018
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 Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:00 pm
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It's about time Altlus ported SMT V to other consoles, although it's also appreciated that Vengeance will also arrive on the Switch. It's kind of Persona 5 Royal situation, but SMT V will at least get released on other consoles at the sime time, not later.
I find it funny that some people were thought SMT V Vengeance would not be arriving on the regular Switch, and that Atlus would later port it to Nintendo's new console, although I have to admit that the game is struggling to run on the Switch's hardware, perhaps that's a reason why Atlus didn't bother to make a Persona 3 Reload version for the Switch.
I just hope that the game does well with this new version, the original version did pretty well for an exclusive third-party RPG for the Switch, don't know if Nintendo players would be so happy to buy just an upgrade, I think P5 Royal on the PS4 should be used as a comparison but I don't know how much it sold compared to the original P5. On the other hand, it seems that Shin Megami Tensei V Vengeance will be released the same day as the DLC for Elden Ring arrives (and a rumored Premium Edition as well), so I don't know if that could affect its potential sales on PS5, Xbox and PC, I just hope the games does well because it seems Atlus has struggled a bit with all of their non-Persona games, like Soul Hackers 2 for example. As I said, SMT V did well on Nintendo, all things considered, despite being much more niche compared to P5
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Beatdigga
Joined: 26 Oct 2003
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:27 pm
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This right here is why I always wait on Atlus RPG’s. I know a more complete version is coming.
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BadNewsBlues
Joined: 21 Sep 2014
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:52 pm
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| Silver Kirin wrote: | | It's about time Altlus ported SMT V to other consoles, |
I’ll say. I’ve been waiting for this every since they mentioned in that data leak there was a PC version was potentially coming. Here’s hoping they fix the frame rate problems that were on the Switch.
| Beatdigga wrote: | | This right here is why I always wait on Atlus RPG’s. I know a more complete version is coming. |
How’d you enjoy the complete versions (including all DLC) of SMT4, Apocalypse, & Strange Journey?
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Avec ou Nous
Joined: 17 Feb 2023
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:40 pm
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| BadNewsBlues wrote: | | How’d you enjoy the complete versions (including all DLC) of SMT4, Apocalypse, & Strange Journey? |
Wouldn't Apocalypse be the SMT:IV second version, technically?
I'm still not sure if this will have the base game of 5 in it or it will be an entirely new thing though.
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BlueAlf
Joined: 02 Jan 2017
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:45 pm
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| Avec ou Nous wrote: | |
I'm still not sure if this will have the base game of 5 in it or it will be an entirely new thing though. |
From a Siliconera article, apparently this will be the base game with most (but not all) DLC (only the major ones), along with some extra additions that include a new route and some extra demons. Some QoL changes added too.
The weird thing IMO is how they seem to have changed the promo material into something more character-based? I wonder if they made changes to the main script too.
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BadNewsBlues
Joined: 21 Sep 2014
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:52 pm
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| Avec ou Nous wrote: | | Wouldn't Apocalypse be the SMT:IV second version, technically? |
Yes but it was more to the point that both games had DLC that if you didn’t buy when they were still available on the eShop that content was lost to the ether. So those games are effectively incomplete.
| Avec ou Nous wrote: | | I'm still not sure if this will have the base game of 5 in it or it will be an entirely new thing though. |
I would think this game is essentially like Strange Journey Redux or Devil Survivor Overclocked where they’re fundamentally the same games but with new content added on top
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DRWii
Joined: 16 May 2007
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:47 pm
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| Avec ou Nous wrote: | | I'm still not sure if this will have the base game of 5 in it or it will be an entirely new thing though. |
You'll have a choice at the beginning of the game to follow the "Canon of Creation," which is the original SMT V campaign with no story changes, or the "Canon of Vengeance," which is broadly the same story but with "significant changes in the middle and later stages." I really hope this becomes the standard with Atlus re-releases.
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BadNewsBlues
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:20 pm
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| DRWii wrote: | | I really hope this becomes the standard with Atlus re-releases. |
Releasing a game then releasing a more improved version of the same game later on meaning players will likely be double dipping is the standard for their releases.
Especially anything involving the Shin Megami Tensei stuff the last decade and a half.
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MFrontier
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:49 pm
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Guess this is about becoming standard for Atlus games. Always wait for the updated re-release!
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DRWii
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:58 am
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| BadNewsBlues wrote: | | Releasing a game then releasing a more improved version of the same game later on meaning players will likely be double dipping is the standard for their releases. |
I figured what I meant was clear from the rest of my post, but I guess I need to clarify: the part I hope becomes standard is having the option for the unaltered story in the same package.
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R. Kasahara
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:59 am
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| BadNewsBlues wrote: | | Releasing a game then releasing a more improved version of the same game later on meaning players will likely be double dipping is the standard for their releases.
Especially anything involving the Shin Megami Tensei stuff the last decade and a half. |
Yeaaah, I probably should've waited to get SMTV, but SMTIV didn't get an updated rerelease so eh.
Even though I haven't played V yet, I'm leaning towards not double-dipping this time. I haven't enjoyed the extra storylines in past rereleases (hi, Persona 3 FES!), if I even do them, and the other additions are merely nice-to-haves.
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BadNewsBlues
Joined: 21 Sep 2014
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:52 pm
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| R. Kasahara wrote: | |
Yeaaah, I probably should've waited to get SMTV, but SMTIV didn't get an updated rerelease so eh. |
I already had the 3DS version and wasn’t really expecting it to get an updated though. Even if those graphics were ugly as the archangels, the partner AI sucked (which they fixed in apocalypse), and the other routes ended prematurely compared to the neutral.
| DRWii wrote: | | I figured what I meant was clear from the rest of my post, but I guess I need to clarify: the part I hope becomes standard is having the option for the unaltered story in the same package. |
I don’t know why you would need to do that since in many cases the improved story is better than the original. In an ideal world they’d get the game right on the first try thereby not needing to do an improved version 3-5 years later that adds additional stuff that could’ve and should’ve been in the original release.
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WoodDude
Joined: 22 Dec 2022
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:30 pm
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| BadNewsBlues wrote: | | I don’t know why you would need to do that since in many cases the improved story is better than the original. |
Very debatable. I find the original Persona 5 has a much tighter story overall than Royal despite all the added content in that version. Everyone relapsing their entire character arc in the added semester being one of my biggest problems with the way Royal handles things.
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