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justsomeaccount



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:06 pm Reply with quote
So, let me see if I got the article right, a japanese manga author is being condemned/suspended for being racist against japanese people? That's... certainly something you don't often see.
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Kougeru



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:14 pm Reply with quote
^ Seems that way. It also sounds like this manga is from the perspective of a racist Korean martial artists? I'm so confused. Does this mangaka have Korean blood in him or does he truly hate his own people? Being racist is awful to begin with. Being racist against your own people...I don't even know how to describe that.
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Bruce91



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:15 pm Reply with quote
justsomeaccount wrote:
So, let me see if I got the article right, a japanese manga author is being condemned/suspended for being racist against japanese people? That's... certainly something you don't often see.

Yep, That's what I get too.
funny, because the author of the isekai novel said some insulting stuff about Korea and China, while not getting any warning/suspension.
Did work out in the end because karma came hard back.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:19 pm Reply with quote
EDIT: apparently Japanism is a ultranationalist manga magazine, so this mangaka was probably trying to sarcasticly imply Koreans are just as racist. One scumbag after another like dominoes.

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TsukasaElkKite



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:41 pm Reply with quote
Wow, all the racists are coming out of the woodwork now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:46 pm Reply with quote
I don't think we can say for sure the nationality of the original creator. Masao Shiro could be a pseudonym and they aren't the artist drawing the actual manga in the magazine, but credited as its original creator. The story also originally had a Korean title.
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Hoppy800



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:13 pm Reply with quote
TsukasaElkKite wrote:
Wow, all the racists are coming out of the woodwork now.


A Japanese man talking garbage about other Japanese is racist? Seriously, use your head.
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Jonny Mendes



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:23 pm Reply with quote
Hoppy800 wrote:

A Japanese man talking garbage about other Japanese is racist? Seriously, use your head.


We don't know if he is really Japanese. He can be a naturalized Korean now living in Japan.
In the process of naturalization in Japan, there are a requirement to choose a legal name, that consists of a mix of Japanese hiragana, katakana, and kanji.


Also there are plenty of people that hate and are racist against their own race.
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Kougeru



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:35 pm Reply with quote
Hoppy800 wrote:
TsukasaElkKite wrote:
Wow, all the racists are coming out of the woodwork now.


A Japanese man talking garbage about other Japanese is racist? Seriously, use your head.


Fun fact, you CAN be racist against your own people. Very easily. In this specific case, saying another race is superior, is racist.
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Stuart Smith



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:41 pm Reply with quote
VORTIA wrote:
EDIT: apparently Japanism is a ultranationalist manga magazine, so this mangaka was probably trying to sarcasticly imply Koreans are just as racist. One scumbag after another like dominoes.


As someone who's had dealings with Koreans on a daily basis in the past, of course they can be just as racist. Anyone is capable of racism. Korea/Japan racism is most definitely a two-way street.

The jury is still out on whether this guy is actually Japanese or not, since it could just be a pen name. But even if he was, people hating their own race isn't uncommon. You see a lot of white people saying white people should die on Twitter, and so forth. Keiji Inafune is also Japanese but has a huge dislike of Japanese media and practices, which is why he fled to the west to try to make Mighty No 9.

-Stuart Smith
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:11 pm Reply with quote
Was his tweet ironic? Maybe all he wanted to achieve is to for the flame war to spread. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:39 pm Reply with quote
Stuart Smith wrote:
VORTIA wrote:
EDIT: apparently Japanism is a ultranationalist manga magazine, so this mangaka was probably trying to sarcasticly imply Koreans are just as racist. One scumbag after another like dominoes.


As someone who's had dealings with Koreans on a daily basis in the past, of course they can be just as racist. Anyone is capable of racism. Korea/Japan racism is most definitely a two-way street.


I didn't mean to imply Koreans aren't capable of racism against Japanese, just that due to the magazine this manga is published in, that his intent was likely to put words in Koreans' mouths.
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nargun



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:56 pm Reply with quote
Jonny Mendes wrote:
We don't know if he is really Japanese. He can be a naturalized Korean now living in Japan.
In the process of naturalization in Japan, there are a requirement to choose a legal name, that consists of a mix of Japanese hiragana, katakana, and kanji.


Single-character surnames are unusual, obviously, and I've never seen 白 used before[1]: in the face of it, 白正男 is plausibly a sino-japanese or koreo-japanese name. There's a lot of people in japan with surnames originating in korea or taiwan [acct japanese colonialism] and a lot of these people don't identify as ethnic [wa/yamato] japanese. [Citizenship issues are complex here; as with most complex matters wrt japanese legalities, I blame macarthur].

[These days, korean names in korea are largely written in hangul, but most of them still can be written in hanja; and this is often done in japan and is usual in china. 白正男 is Bae Jeongnam in korea: there's an actor called that]

It's pretty likely the person in question is of korean ancestry.

[1] To be fair! I've never lived in japan or had to spend much time categorising japanese surnames; my "I've never seen it" isn't very categorical, means "unusual" rather than "vanishingly rare".
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mrsatan



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:59 pm Reply with quote
Indeed, I've never seen a Japanese with 白 as a surname, but plenty of Koreans with that name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baek
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Lemonchest



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:02 pm Reply with quote
Should have put his slur in italics, so Twitter would know it was being used "ironically."
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