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zrnzle500
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:00 pm
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Saw this last night when I went to see Ancient Magus Bride. The behind the scenes look definitely piqued my interest and the special itself only increased my interest. It was nicely done and I'd like to see more of it.
Slight tangent: Will the Ancient Magus Bride episodes shown in theaters have a formal review beyond the one done for their Anime Expo premiere or will you just wait for the TV broadcast?
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DmonHiro
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:34 pm
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Did they SERIOUSLY use the Inception sound effects for the trailer? Really?
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Roxas4ever
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:46 pm
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I really enjoyed "Children of Ether" last night in theaters, but I went in thinking it was going to be a complete story, and it only just scratched the surface of something that appears to be a longer project. I loved that the production is a collaboration of American, French, and Japanese animation (arguably the three animation powerhouses among nations).
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donhumberto
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:46 pm
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How I wish this had been a full series... this looks amazingly good. Let's hope they can make it longer in the near future
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Sarukah
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:43 pm
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DmonHiro wrote: | Did they SERIOUSLY use the Inception sound effects for the trailer? Really? |
I had the same thought. Those hideous horn noises need to die a horrible death and never ever be used in anything ever again. Ugh. It made trying to enjoy the trailer difficult for me.
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relyat08
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:05 pm
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Children of Ether was kinda cool. Definitely felt like they were struggling a bit to create a decent introduction even in the time they had though. I'd be willing to watch more, but mostly just because that world looks pretty fascinating.
Maybe the most interesting thing about this short is how it yet again brought up the whole "what is anime" argument. I don't know what the right answer is anymore, honestly. It seems like, in many ways, it's become a kind of useless definition. Defined differently by almost everyone.
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residentgrigo
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:48 am
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@relyat08 It has become easier that ever to define what an anime is, as US companies rarely use Japanese studio to animate toons. The Boondocks is a somewhat recent example.
Experimental stuff and collaborations as this one used to be more frequent too and Children of Ether is neither targeted at the Asian market nor dubbed into Japanese. ThunderCats 2011 has a better standing as an anime than this.
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DmonHiro
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:07 am
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Having seen it: it was... decent? Nothing special at all.
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donhumberto
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:56 am
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Well, what do you know, it does say "to be continued" at the end
As expected, I really enjoyed it and I'll be keeping an eye on any continuation we may get. Loved the atmosphere and I really want to know more about the story.
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relyat08
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:36 pm
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residentgrigo wrote: | @relyat08 It has become easier that ever to define what an anime is, as US companies rarely use Japanese studio to animate toons. The Boondocks is a somewhat recent example.
Experimental stuff and collaborations as this one used to be more frequent too and Children of Ether is neither targeted at the Asian market nor dubbed into Japanese. ThunderCats 2011 has a better standing as an anime than this. |
Yet it has Japanese staff, the studio that animated it is located in Japan(Yoyogi Park), Thomas calls it anime himself, and it is planned to be shown in Japan. Not to mention that something being targeted at the Asian market(really? Asian? You're going to lump the whole continent together?) is subjective as hell and Thomas says he wants it to be seen in Asia(obviously).
It may be easier than ever for you, but that is certainly not the general consensus, and according to your own definition this is likely on the way to being anime anyway! I've seen more arguments and debates over this over the last year or so than ever before since I've been in the fandom. Or maybe I should say more debates that are relatively convincing on each side. Saying this isn't anime makes you a hipster elitist who is obsessed with gatekeeping, saying that it is anime makes you a weeaboo wannabe who thinks anime is inherently superior to cartoons. I've had a workable definition for myself for years, but that definition is only workable for me. And most peoples' definitions, yours included, is probably only workable for you. Which is my point. Everyone's definition is different and none of them are actually very useful anymore on a community wide level. They either have too many exceptions, or the definition becomes too broad.
For example anime is: A series of visual styles or narrative conventions or made in Japan. Emphasis on "or" because this allows for more exceptions and doesn't require it to have more than one of these aspects.
This is the definition that I see a lot of people using now. To me, that's far too broad. It doesn't mean anything. In fact, it basically just covers all animation ever(to be fair, this is what some people want). But anyway, I don't know if there is a right answer. Is it okay for the entire community to just all have their own definitions of what the stuff actually is? Maybe? It seems like it has kind of worked so far? As someone who is very into language and linguistics, it's fascinating to me, but also a little frustrating because I can no longer define what this stuff is beyond my own interpretation.
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