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'Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? Sword Oratoria' TV Anime Slated for April


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BlackPoint.



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:40 am Reply with quote
Finnaly its looking better and better now with this one airing at spring season too, really cant wait to see Aiz Smile

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After not hearing anything for so long after the original announcement, I started to think that they would just "forget" it...
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Why can't they continue the main story? I really don't want a spinoff that will end up with no progress in the main plot which may never get a second season.

It's the same crap with Hidan no Aria. I did not need a freaking cutesy prequel spinoff there either.

Everyone is just taking cues from A Certain Magical Index now. Advance the friggin' main plot already!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:19 am Reply with quote
Cool to get more anime from this franchise, but...
Slashman wrote:
Why can't they continue the main story? I really don't want a spinoff that will end up with no progress in the main plot which may never get a second season.

I am with you. The main story seems to have potential for good stuff. And not to mention that Aiz is a super boring character. Hopefully this spinoff is successful, and the producers return to the main story by 2018.
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Would point out that the first DanMachi series covered the first five volumes of the novels, and volume 11 only came out a couple of months ago in Japan. Hence only relatively recently has enough source content become available to consider animating a second season. For that reason I wouldn't be surprised to see an announcement sometime next year - although the way light novel adaptations go, I also wouldn't be surprised to never see one.

Based on the first novel of this spin-off, I think you'll find Aiz less boring in this story. Also, this side series expands the setting quite a bit by filling in a lot more detail that couldn't feasibly have come out in the main series since Bell was too low-level (and Hestia too much of a bit player on the god/goddesses scene) to have encountered it. It also looks to have its own storyline which occasionally intersects with Bell's but is distinct from it.

Basically, if you liked the first DanMachi series, I don't expect that you'll be too disappointed with this one.
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Does anyone know if the studios been announced? I would be happy with Jc also making this it's just too much of a risk going with a new studio but we'll see
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Basically, the story in the spinoff would be going along Aiz's (Ainz?) route? Yeah, no problem with that.
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But while riches and renown are incentive enough for most, Bell Cranel, would-be hero extraordinaire, has bigger plans.

He wants to pick up girls.

Is it wrong to face the perils of Dungeon alone, in a single-member guild blessed by a failed goddess?


Does anyone else feel like this description (which was the one that we had before the first anime came out) seems disingenuous and very misleading. I mean Bell is nothing like that, like at all. Hell, he is the opposite of that description, it's so weird that this description is still stapled to the work when it couldn't be farther from the true.

Hell, Bell's main attribute would be worthless if he character was like that, his attribute dictates that spoiler[as long as he is trying to be a hero and holds to those traits he can exponentially grow stronger in a shorter time (or something to that affect).] He is a big deal because of his ability and it only works because spoiler[he is faithful in his endevour to persue Aniz,] otherwise he would be just the same as any other adventurer.
Slashman wrote:
Why can't they continue the main story? I really don't want a spinoff that will end up with no progress in the main plot which may never get a second season.

It's the same crap with Hidan no Aria. I did not need a freaking cutesy prequel spinoff there either.

Everyone is just taking cues from A Certain Magical Index now. Advance the friggin' main plot already!


You know what's funny, all 3 projects (Aria the Scarlet Ammo, Danmachi, and Index/Railgun) are done by J.C. Staff. So, yeah they are fallowing their own cues.

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Would point out that the first DanMachi series covered the first five volumes of the novels, and volume 11 only came out a couple of months ago in Japan


Didn't they just rush through those novels though. Like I read a lot of comments about what was left out and it was a lot. So, to be truthful, the amount of novels can be dissuaded as a real obstacle.
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Rinkwolf wrote:
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But while riches and renown are incentive enough for most, Bell Cranel, would-be hero extraordinaire, has bigger plans.

He wants to pick up girls.

Is it wrong to face the perils of Dungeon alone, in a single-member guild blessed by a failed goddess?


Does anyone else feel like this description (which was the one that we had before the first anime came out) seems disingenuous and very misleading. I mean Bell is nothing like that, like at all. Hell, he is the opposite of that description, it's so weird that this description is still stapled to the work when it couldn't be farther from the true.
If I recall correctly, picking up girls was his original motivation to get into adventuring. Considering spoiler[who his grandpa is alluded to be (Zeus) at the end of the anime], this doesn't really come as much of a shock. That changed when he met Aiz. He had been a registered adventurer for a little while before he met her, however.
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Rinkwolf wrote:
Didn't they just rush through those novels though. Like I read a lot of comments about what was left out and it was a lot. So, to be truthful, the amount of novels can be dissuaded as a real obstacle.

I've read the novels released in English to date, and not that much was left out. Aside from one fight scene involving spoiler[Aiz and Bell being attacked while training], all that really got skipped over was some world-building detail and a couple of side stories which may still get animated separately. And nothing which got skipped was crucial to the overall plot.
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Goober2049 wrote:
Rinkwolf wrote:
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But while riches and renown are incentive enough for most, Bell Cranel, would-be hero extraordinaire, has bigger plans.

He wants to pick up girls.

Is it wrong to face the perils of Dungeon alone, in a single-member guild blessed by a failed goddess?


Does anyone else feel like this description (which was the one that we had before the first anime came out) seems disingenuous and very misleading. I mean Bell is nothing like that, like at all. Hell, he is the opposite of that description, it's so weird that this description is still stapled to the work when it couldn't be farther from the true.
If I recall correctly, picking up girls was his original motivation to get into adventuring. Considering spoiler[who his grandpa is alluded to be (Zeus) at the end of the anime], this doesn't really come as much of a shock. That changed when he met Aiz. He had been a registered adventurer for a little while before he met her, however.


I'm sorry but I don't buy that. Bell never went into the Dungeon before he had a Familia, his first priority was to get into a Familia and then to become a adventurer, he showed no signs putting "Picking Up Girls" his priority or even agenda because he was earnestly trying to build up his new Familia with Hestia. The fact that this grandfather once mentioned to him that it's a great way to pick up girls was just that, a statement and one I don't see evidence of Bell pursuing in the show.

Point is, the summary hold no grip to the reality of the situation and Bells character, it gives a completely opposite view of how he really is. He is earnestly trying to build up his Familia, become a top ranked adventurer and holding Aiz in the highest regard firstly because she is strong and then later he builds a crush on her. I wouldn't even argue that he would have had a similar reaction (admiration) if Aiz was a man. He first noticed her for her strength and showed admiration to her, which developed into affection to her because he found her beautiful. None of this shows a shadow of what the summary is insinuating. That is what I found annoying. It's like the summary is about a spin off manga with a different story and the same characters.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:42 am Reply with quote
Yes, he was earnestly trying to build up his Familia, but that doesn't change the fact that his whole reason for coming to Orario and becoming an adventurer in the first place was to pick up girls. That was clearly-established at the beginning of the series, whether in novel or first animated episode form. So the summary isn't any less accurate than the summary for any other series which is only based on starting conditions.
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Rinkwolf wrote:
I'm sorry but I don't buy that. Bell never went into the Dungeon before he had a Familia, his first priority was to get into a Familia and then to become a adventurer, he showed no signs putting "Picking Up Girls" his priority or even agenda because he was earnestly trying to build up his new Familia with Hestia. The fact that this grandfather once mentioned to him that it's a great way to pick up girls was just that, a statement and one I don't see evidence of Bell pursuing in the show.

Point is, the summary hold no grip to the reality of the situation and Bells character, it gives a completely opposite view of how he really is. He is earnestly trying to build up his Familia, become a top ranked adventurer and holding Aiz in the highest regard firstly because she is strong and then later he builds a crush on her. I wouldn't even argue that he would have had a similar reaction if Aiz was a man. He first noticed her for her strength and showed admiration to her, which developed into affection to her because he found her beautiful. On of this shows a shadow of what the summary is indicating.
You do know that time that Bell gets trapped by the minotaur wasn't his first time into the dungeon, right? The story starts after he had already met Hestia and been living with her for a time.

I'm not saying the blurb for the show (or even its title) is a good description of what its like after episode 1, but it's not technically wrong either.
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Key wrote:
Yes, he was earnestly trying to build up his Familia, but that doesn't change the fact that his whole reason for coming to Orario and becoming an adventurer in the first place was to pick up girls. That was clearly-established at the beginning of the series, whether in novel or first animated episode form. So the summary isn't any less accurate than the summary for any other series which is only based on starting conditions.


My impression was that he wanted to become a adventurer because his grandfather was one and spoke so fondly of it, not because he wanted to pick up girls. It was a tribute to his grandfather, not a ulterior motive. He admired adventurers and that is why he wanted to be one. At least that is what I get the feeling from the show was.

Goober2049 wrote:
Rinkwolf wrote:
I'm sorry but I don't buy that. Bell never went into the Dungeon before he had a Familia, his first priority was to get into a Familia and then to become a adventurer, he showed no signs putting "Picking Up Girls" his priority or even agenda because he was earnestly trying to build up his new Familia with Hestia. The fact that this grandfather once mentioned to him that it's a great way to pick up girls was just that, a statement and one I don't see evidence of Bell pursuing in the show.

Point is, the summary hold no grip to the reality of the situation and Bells character, it gives a completely opposite view of how he really is. He is earnestly trying to build up his Familia, become a top ranked adventurer and holding Aiz in the highest regard firstly because she is strong and then later he builds a crush on her. I wouldn't even argue that he would have had a similar reaction if Aiz was a man. He first noticed her for her strength and showed admiration to her, which developed into affection to her because he found her beautiful. On of this shows a shadow of what the summary is indicating.
You do know that time that Bell gets trapped by the minotaur wasn't his first time into the dungeon, right? The story starts after he had already met Hestia and been living with her for a time.

I'm not saying the blurb for the show (or even its title) is a good description of what its like after episode 1, but it's not technically wrong either.


But, that is exactly why I dislike it, because it is feels so platitudely wrong to the whole story narrative, it deconstructs Bell in such a fashion that it's hard to build him up again the same way he currently is. It feels completely disjointed from how things really are.
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Following this logic, the entire name of the series is wrong...

Why the hell does it have that name in the first place?
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