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mdo7
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I must say, it's kind of cool for these foreign mangaska to give these interview/panel talk doing work in Japan. Thanks for the transcript. Oh and this got my attention:
Yeah this doesn't surprise me and it confirmed what other foreigners have experienced in Japan. |
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Ali07
 Posts: 3333 Location: Victoria, Australia |
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Disappointing seeing Cummings experienced that over there.
I only read the Cummings bits of this. 
He's the only person I've heard of, and that is all down to the fact he will be working with Jim Zub on Wayward at Image Comics. A new series that I'm really looking forward to! |
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yappers4
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Do you mind sharing what you have confirmed what foreigners have experienced in Japan? This article was interesting and your comment piqued my curiosity more. |
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mdo7
Posts: 6464 Location: Katy, Texas, USA |
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Ah I see you're not aware of Japan's discrimination issue. Yeah this is pretty widespread in Japan: 
Rocketnews-Is Japan really racist Time-Japan to [Brazilian] immigrants: Thanks, but you can go home now and NYT article about this same issue. I heard Brazilians in Japan get discriminated a lot. Japanese Brazilian seek new identity NYT-"Japanese only" policy takes body count to blow I heard ethnic Korean get it worse in Japan: BBC-Japan court rule against anti-korean group hate speech Japanese Discrimination Against Korean and other Ethnic Schools U.S. raises concerns over 'hate speech' against ethnic Koreans in Japan Counseling offered for Korean youths in Japan victimized by discrimination I hope these help. |
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tasogarenootome
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Ah the foreigner bubble on trains.
This was a great article, ANN, thanks for posting a trasncript. I remember you guys running something on Jamie Lano a few years back, so it's neat to hear a bit more. I'm glad some people were able to accomplish having a hand in the manga industry in Japan. I loved living there, but at the same time it made me appreciate life and certain aspects of culture in my home country. If there are others who pursue comics in Japan and decide living there isn't for them, I hope they'll continue comics in their own country. Manga has an undeniable influence and mixing that with your other experiences and influences could lead to more diversity in comics, I hope. |
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potatochobit
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I don't understand why we can't make "Anime" in america
I've thought about submitting some original scripts to dark horse but I don't understand why no one else is really selling their own Anime style manga. |
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StudioToledo
 Posts: 847 Location: Toledo, U.S.A. |
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We don't have that many non-union shops gullible enough to do it (Titmouse is probably the best example there). |
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walw6pK4Alo
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They've made some anime styled things in the past, like Avatar, Megas, Symbiotic Titan, that show that was like duel masters or something in that vein, and others. I just don't think the western animation environment is set up to do stuff like that, they'd rather have their CalArts school of design aesthetic and they'd rather aim most things to kids. There's really not any kind of adult animation home video market that they've ever tried to grow outside stuff like that Rob Zombie cartoon. They can barely make good cartoons as it is (what, maybe one new decent show a year?), let alone trying to copy anime even further.
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Ali07
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Really? I thought that stuff like South Park, Family Guy, American Dad, and Archer were more aimed to adults/older teens than kids. Maybe I'm just influenced by ratings/airing times here in Aus, all are usually aired around 9PM and carry M ratings. |
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gloverrandal
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Do you mean content wise or name wise? Name wise anime is made in Japan, so stuff made in America can't be anime. Content wise no network would ever dare be that ambitious when it doesn't have to be when cheaper shows yield the same amount of money. Much stricter censors, lack of music industry integration, lack of high quality collector merchandise integration.. the American animation market just isn't set up like Japan's is to produce similar shows. Let alone the same amount Japan does which is over a hundred new cartoons a year. America produces maybe 8 new cartoons a year if we're lucky. Korra's abyssmal ratings and being taken off Nickelodeon I think shows there is no real market for "American anime". I guess when it comes down to it if people want anime they'll watch anime, not American attempts at the idea. All the shows walw6pK4Alo listed were bombs, except for Avatar which managed to actually finish it's run, though it had tons of hiatuses from what I remember. However Korra is suffering the same fate as the other shows and was pulled from Nickelodeon so in the end it suffered the same fate. |
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StudioToledo
Posts: 847 Location: Toledo, U.S.A. |
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Certainly those that could afford to go to CalArts and other schools (what I consider Ivy League types for animation) often ended up dictating where animated headed in the 90's and 2000's.
You'd think the internet would help there but apparently not (and there's always the union issue too). |
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mangamuscle
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Ok, stand up, take two steps back and re-read what you just wrote. The series you mention have awful levels of animation, the plot is oriented towards adults but the budget they have to make those must be abysmal (that archer one reminds me of clutch cargo  ). One of the factors that attracted me to anime is the quality of the animation and that the characters are not meant to be ugly (most of the time), whereas any cartoon airing in late night TV this side of the pond seems to be competing to see who can make the ugliest faces. So probably the first hurdle of making "anime" over here is that any approved budget would be similar to other late night series and therefore the best you can do (animation wise) probably be on the same level of Kill Me Baby!
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walw6pK4Alo
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Sure those comedies tend to be more adult in humor, but they're no replacement or even within the same realm of what I look for in anime. Bakshi and Bluth stuff from the 70s and 80s definitely comes closer. |
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StudioToledo
Posts: 847 Location: Toledo, U.S.A. |
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There's still a spot in my heart for what Secret of NIMH tried to do. |
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Galap
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This may surprise you, but most western animations, especially high profile ones like Family Guy and South Park have budgets many times higher than even the most expensive TV anime. |
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