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NEWS: Oldest Surviving Anime Short by Phoenix Film's Kon Ichikawa Found


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darkcat1



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:45 am Reply with quote
I guess no one else likes film history. I don't know much about this but it's always great fun when something thought to be lost forever is now found and might be available.
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Wrangler



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:53 am Reply with quote
I love history, to have one of the oldest animes found it great thing.
Hopely they'll make it available for everyone to enjoy.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:20 am Reply with quote
This is great news. It goes to show you that there are still some materials out there. Possibly sitting in someone's garage. So it's always a good thing that these projects get found. The sad part is knowing how much might have been out there THAT has been lost never to be discovered. Chances are they'll find more. The fact that this is tied to Tezuka is a treasure in itself.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:45 pm Reply with quote
This is always fascinating, uncovering early cinema thought to be lost or just not thought about. I'm reading Anime a History right now makes this news more fitting!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:03 pm Reply with quote
The big question is how did it end up in California?

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GATSU



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:49 pm Reply with quote
Emerje: Collectors. Or his estate possibly sent it in by mistake when they were trying to provide materials for preservation and/or restoration for his more well-known stuff.
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ShaolinWolf



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:06 pm Reply with quote
Woah, Kon Ichikawa was an animator? He's legit one of the greatest Japanese film directors. I knew he directed the live-action Phoenix but I thought he had no other connection to animation.
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vanfanel



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:19 pm Reply with quote
ShaolinWolf wrote:
Woah, Kon Ichikawa was an animator?


I'm surprised to hear that too. I knew of him from work like "The Inugami Clan" (an adaptation of one of the original Kindaichi mystery novels), but never knew he'd done anime.
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E-Master



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:10 pm Reply with quote
I'm widely interested in early anime films and this is exciting news for a lost anime film to be found again. Now lets see this film get listed on ANN.
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Joe Carpenter



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:14 pm Reply with quote
now that's old school!
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Sloggett



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:38 pm Reply with quote
It will be interesting to see how good restoration goes.
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Rekishika



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:44 am Reply with quote
If you're interested in the very beginnings of animation in Japan, you might wish to take a look at
"On the earliest (foreign) animation films shown in Japanese cinemas"
(http://litten.de/fulltext/nipper.pdf)
and
"Some remarks on the first Japanese animation films in 1917"
(http://litten.de/fulltext/ani1917.pdf).

The Nipper note has also been translated and published in "The Japanese Journal of Animation Studies", vol. 15, 1A, 2013, pp. 27-32.

A new research note on "Japanese color animation from the 'first anime' to the end of the 1930s" is currently in production and will probably be up in May. And yes, the "first anime" refers to the film strip "Katsudô shashin", which usually gets misrepresented in Western texts.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:06 am Reply with quote
Emerje wrote:

The big question is how did it end up in California?


Probably a place it could survive since Japan was heavily bombed in WW2.
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StudioToledo



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:21 pm Reply with quote
vanfanel wrote:
ShaolinWolf wrote:
Woah, Kon Ichikawa was an animator?


I'm surprised to hear that too. I knew of him from work like "The Inugami Clan" (an adaptation of one of the original Kindaichi mystery novels), but never knew he'd done anime.

Just like Fellini...
http://www.rapportoconfidenziale.org/?p=13928

enurtsol wrote:
Emerje wrote:

The big question is how did it end up in California?


Probably a place it could survive since Japan was heavily bombed in WW2.

I suppose that's one point for the A.M.P.A.S. Also glad to see the UCLA Film & TV Archive's working on this too. They do great work.
http://www.cinema.ucla.edu/
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TonyTonyChopper



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:02 am Reply with quote
That's awesome though no one really cares in the end about it ... but i guess Japan is happy with this (it could be included if they do another one of those old anime collection releases).
The title would suggest they where doing something with that Phoenix live action film and accidently found this short hey i still want in physical release of that live action Movie give me !!!

This doesn't come as a surpise though the old English Dub of Princes knight thought to be lost forever was found just a few years ago and rightstuff it still searching for negatives of Tezuka's W3.
Just like with 2 Dubs of the 3 Animerama movies Bible stories and Three in the Sun and Blue blink which where only for Hawaii they should just release all of this stuff.
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