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dannavy85
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I don't usually dislike an anime that I'll end up making a fuss over it but "Ninja Resurrection" burns me because of its slanderous treatment of a Japanese Christian warrior saint. I want to see this anime banned from the United States or better yet force the artist who made this pile of butt brownies to make an anime that properly depicts Amakusa Shiro as the heroic warrior he was.
Saint Amakusa led an all out peasent rebellion against the Dutch backed Shogunate of Shimabara Prefecture in 1637 who took pleasure in boiling christians in the volcanic mud and water pools around Mount Unzen. 16 year old Amakusa held the main castle of the regional lord for 4 months until he and his followers were killed. " Ninja Resurrection" is a vile insult against Saint Amakusa and those who died fighting a murderous anti-Christian regime and I think it should be rejected by anime fandom out of respect to the truth. 
Just say no to trash! Last edited by dannavy85 on Mon Jun 23, 2003 7:55 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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dannavy85
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To add to this, the anime turns Amakusa into a satanic demon, which is a pile of B.S. and totally sends the wrong message to those who don't know the true story.
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v1cious
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shit, now i know why this was never posted
jesus saves dude 
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JETBLACK87
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it was a stupid anime anyway. but I agree with you.
whats that supposed to mean? |
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Craeyst Raygal
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Umm, Ninja Resurrection is already rejected by fans as being poorly animated, having a ridiculous story, and being over-hyped (and incorrectly hyped) as the sequel to Ninja Scroll.
Dannavy, I could lecture you about how Christianity and sainthood are not as near-and-dear to the hearts of the Japanese as they are to Western culture. But the fact of the matter is that this isn't some grandiose epic meant to radically alter our perceptions of life and history. It's Ninja Resurrection; the anime equivalent of a B Movie. The whole purpose was to show as man dismemberments as possible in the timespan of the film, and pry as many dollars/yen out of the viewers pockets. The movie tanked. The US distribution tanked. And nobody is watching it because it was a lousy movie. Besides, as a practicing agnostic, it's my personal belief that fanaticism of any kind leads to erratic and anti-social behavior. This qualifies as fanaticism. |
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Dan42
Chief Encyclopedist
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Everyone know Ninja Resurrection was a bad movie, but it was just meant as entertainment. You want to see this anime banned because it insults your beliefs? That strikes me as Christian fanaticism. Remember the first amendment. What right do you have to ban this anime? What right to you have to impose your beliefs upon others?
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shintopriestess
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First amendment.. I think President Bush sold that to some 3rd world countries so his family could get control of oil.
Give me money, a country to destory and I will give you american freedoms and liberties J/k to lighten a rather funny religion based thread |
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Phoenix
Encyclopedia Editor
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Off topic, but how can you be a practicing agnostic? I'm agnostic, but I don't practice anything...
Ninja Resurrection is just an anime, and Christianity has been misrepresented in many other movies, just as many movies don't do Buddhism and other Asian religions justice, though many would argue that Buddhism is a philosophy and not a religion. My point is that this is fiction and not to be taken too seriously. |
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dannavy85
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At what point and to whom do "you" "qualify fanaticism" |
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dannavy85
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"YOU" consider it Christian fanaticism because "YOU" don't know "ME" My anger against the anime is mostly because of the wrong message it sends about a heroic teenage warrior who was not a satanic beast. If you intend to make Movie or Cartoon depictions of actualevents, at least tell the damned truth! |
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dannavy85
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forget it, if people are going to throw stupid crap like this...lock the damned thread! |
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v1cious
Posts: 6235 Location: Houston, TX |
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... maybe you should calm down |
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Anlushac11
Posts: 268 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana, USA |
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I am a Christian and I feel that they had a right to make the title. I dont have to like it and I dont have to watch it, but in a Democracy where they are guaranteed the right of Freedom of the Press and a right to self expression they have the right. Its up to the public who views it to determine if they agreed with the artistic vision. Seems from the responses not many did. I think they have the right to make the title but the main thing that I cannot stand is when someone makes a movie and base it on actual facts them totally rewrites the thing til it is closer to a work of fiction. If you were going to rewrite the facts til it has little if any relevance to real events then what was the point of basing it on a historical events? |
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cookie
Former ANN Editor in Chief
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I'm not going to lock the thread ... yet... mainly because there's a little bit of meaningful discussion. Tempest or Dan can lock the thread at their whim, if they so choose. *sigh* (However, I'm in agreement with Danny. If you don't have something meaningful to say in this thread, why post in this thread?) For those who are seriously interested in this issue, you can find a bit more information here and here... Much like Buddhism centuries before, most Japanese rulers saw the Christian religion not as a means of devotion and worship, but instead as a form of magic. Hideyoshi Toyotomi felt that it was a powerful force that was preventing him from unifying the people of Japan... and to some extent it was true, as people wanted to explore Christianity and not be controlled by a tyranical ruler. One interesting exception exists, though. It's no secret that Oda Nobunaga (wiki biography) disliked Buddhism and was at least somewhat intrigued by Christianity... And, much like Amakusa in Ninja Ressurrection, Nobunaga is always portrayed as an evil demon-summoning or demon-posessed individual (I'm thinking of Yotoden, specifically, although there are others. Inindo, a SNES game, was another. There's the Christian arc of RRK that doesn't involve Oda but still demonizes Christianity).. While its doubtful that Oda actually followed the doctrines of Christianity (he WAS a ruthless warlord and used Christianity as a means of persecuting [read: slaughtering] the Ikko Buddhist sect), nonetheless he's often held in poor favor in history books. There certainly is a fear, even in modern day Japan, of this "foreign" religion taking control of people. I think this fear was instilled because of the edicts prohibiting its practice.. and if the government says it long enough and enforces it hard enough, people will believe it. Things changed during the Meiji, which allowed Christianity to reveal itself again, but even then, 200 years later, Urakami was a site of executions of Christians, well into the Meiji Era. The initial Meiji constitution didn't even permit full religious freedom, although it was a step in the right direction. I'm in agreement with Anlushac11, however -- as offensive and derogatory as I think it is (I'm Christian, too), I believe it has a right to exist, as does everything else. What saddens me is that no counter-point series is offered, either here or elsewhere. [EDIT: More more info here) |
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king_micah
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It has changed since the Meji era. There were hidden Christians who reveled themselves and with the resumption of foreign contacts the intelectuals of Japan became Christian. Today the percentage of Christians in Japan is still small, only about 1%, but those include many high in the government and in corporations. Still, it is the right of the any American production to do as the please, however, it is my right to boycott and encourage boycotting. I won't because it will give to much attention to a poor piece of Anime that many will buy to piss off boycotters. This movie doesn't deserve such effort.
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