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Jason Thompson's House of 1000 Manga - Even A Monkey Can Draw Manga!


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GATSU



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:33 pm Reply with quote
BTW, the manga-ka for 'Monkey appears to have his own twitter account.

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If you've ever wondered whether manga artists can go insane from overwork, do a youtube search for Kazuo Umezu.


I thought he was insane from the get-go. Laughing

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In 2006, Takekuma and Aihara attempted to update Even A Monkey Can Draw Manga by drawing a few extra chapters, including a section on moe. (The IKKI serialization also included fold-out nude photo spreads of the 40something artist-writer team, in a parody of the gravure idol foldouts often included in manga magazines. Sekushi da ne!)


Damn, makes me wish we got the upgrade. Crying or Very sad

Anyway, I'm just glad I found a copy of the original before Pulp folded. Really fun read.
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v1cious



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:54 pm Reply with quote
This has to be one of the most hilarious mangas i've ever read, Bravo for bringing it to more people's attention. The Best part is when they show how you can sell anything to people by manga-izing it (Train Schedule, funeral home...).
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Psycho_Despair



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:10 am Reply with quote
Damn, where can I get a copy of this?
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Fronzel



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:20 am Reply with quote
I really wish I could read the second volume....
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GATSU



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:43 am Reply with quote
Psycho: Used somewhere, I guess.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:14 am Reply with quote
Oh, no Tetris? I thought using Tetris as an anology for women's comics was one of the funniest and most clever parts of the book. Well, that and the Panty Evolution.

Psycho_Despair wrote:
Damn, where can I get a copy of this?


Amazon?
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doc-watson42
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:31 am Reply with quote
For used books: BookFinder.com; the why. The ISBN is 1569318638.

The seal in the last image (substitute C-1 for a penis) is a reference to the contemporaneous manga Yaruki Manman, which used a similar looking gopher/woodchuck, as well as flowers for vulvae—see screenshots from the (page NSFW) anime adaptation and its anime sequel Age Man to Fuku Chin at AniSearch.de.
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littlegreenwolf



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:09 am Reply with quote
Well drat, I feel silly for getting rid of my copy years ago. Just another reason for me to horde my manga for years letting it take over my house.

I remember it being pretty funny in an odd way, but as something to actual help one at drawing comics I never took it seriously (course I suppose you're not supposed to). I've had just about every "How to Draw Manga" style book every produced thanks to relatives, and the only ones I've ever enjoyed and found useful would be the Shoujo Manga Techniques published by DMP, which I think is out of print now. It presents things in the typical comic style with characters explaining things step by step, but I don't know, maybe it was just a really good translation, but it explained things in a way that made it really easy to grasp. It's a shame only two were published (Drawing Basics, Writing Stories) before DMP stopped.
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vashfanatic



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:24 am Reply with quote
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Aihara: "If the relationship between the Hero and the Rival is overtly homosexual, then the homosexuality of Four-Eyes is latent."

That is so hilariously accurate.

Actually....

I'd run out of space with quote boxes if I picked everything here that was accurate. It all is. I need to read this. Gah! And this is why I have 10 holds at the library! Crying or Very sad
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wandering-dreamer



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:14 am Reply with quote
Sounds pretty interesting but was it flipped? I tried reading the sections you included, realized they weren't making any sense, and then tried reading them Western fashion so I'm doubly confused.
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Daimao Raki



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:46 am Reply with quote
Sounds awesome yet freakishly accurate.
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Brand



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:38 am Reply with quote
wandering-dreamer wrote:
Sounds pretty interesting but was it flipped? I tried reading the sections you included, realized they weren't making any sense, and then tried reading them Western fashion so I'm doubly confused.


Back in the day (pre-Tokyopop) pretty much all manga was flipped. It made sense at the time most of it was sold in comic book stores and dudes at comic book stores were not going to read some backwards comic. It's hard enough to get an American comic fan to read something in black and while no less read in the opposite direction. Which is why even further back in the day they (GASP!) colored the manga in on top of flipping it. So you can find color comics of Akira and Project A-Ko and such out there.

On another note, I was totally thinking how I needed to buy this like two days ago. I guess I better because now the price will go back up on it, now that this review has been done. Anime cry But damn does it look funny.

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I order a copy off of amazon last night. Hopefully it will get to me before Otakon. Anime smile


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ptolemy18
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:13 pm Reply with quote
Yep, it was flipped. Viz didn't start regularly publishing manga in the original unflipped format until about 2003, so "Even a Monkey Can Draw Manga" just missed the boat.

One thing I forgot to mention in the article was that the original title of the manga was "Saru demo egakeru manga kyoshitsu", or "Saruman" (Monkey man(ga)) for short. I wonder if the title of "Bakuman" is an in-joke to that...
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wandering-dreamer



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:34 pm Reply with quote
Ah, I wasn't sure what year companies started er, un-flipping manga and I'd never heard of the coloring thing, now that's really strange.
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Paploo



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:12 pm Reply with quote
littlegreenwolf wrote:

I've had just about every "How to Draw Manga" style book every produced thanks to relatives, and the only ones I've ever enjoyed and found useful would be the Shoujo Manga Techniques published by DMP, which I think is out of print now. It presents things in the typical comic style with characters explaining things step by step, but I don't know, maybe it was just a really good translation, but it explained things in a way that made it really easy to grasp. It's a shame only two were published (Drawing Basics, Writing Stories) before DMP stopped.


I got the writing one on clearance at Chapters recently- these were nice books, and I like they they were done in a comic format. They were very much so about mainstream shojo manga, but were very practical, like the better how-to books tend to be.

I read some of Monkey in Pulp- if people want to sample it, try tracking down a few back issues of that, it's sort of like SigIkki's ancestor.

My fave How-To book is Lea Hernandez's Manga Secrets, which has some extremely good, useful, straightforward discussions on making comics and is done in a fun, irreverent style. http://www.amazon.com/Manga-Secrets-Lea-Hernandez/dp/1581805721/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279228399&sr=8-14

I also just remembered Colleen Doran's done some How-To comics/manga books as well, should check those out sometime.
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