Forum - View topicSuper Dimension Fortress Macross: which version?
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seattlescotsman
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Hello everyone!
I'm thinking of buying the original Macross series, but, knowing very little about the series (besides what's on the ANN Encyclopedia and Wikipedia), I'm a little lost as to which version to buy. ADV has a dual-language thinkpack of what looks to be the entire series (I'm linking to the TRSI page for the item because it has a nice, big picture of the box): Macross, Super Dimension Fortress Complete Collection DVD. However, AnimEigo also seems to have a remastered version of the complete series which is subtitles-only (I can't find this set in the ANN list of releases for Macross, but it's made by AnimEigo and seems to be legitimate): MACROSS - The Complete Remastered Series DVD Set So here's my question: Is the ADV version actually the same, but with english dubbing? Or is the ADV version just a re-named copy of the first season of Robotech? Also, will the Animeigo version have better video quality, or will they both most likely contain the remastered video? Thanks for your help! |
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Dargonxtc
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I will keep this answer short since I have had to answer this a gazillion times.
Basically they both have the same remastered video. You will hear some say that one is better than the other, but for all intents and purposes they are the same. The real differences come with the audio tracks. If you prefer Japanese audio then the Animeigo version is the best bet. The Japanese 2.0 audio was redone (cleaned up) on that one and it sounds much more crisp and clear. Many also say the Animeigo subtitles are better, but ADV also did an admirable effort with coloring and such, still Animeigo probably holds the edge in that regard. The ADV version has a 5.1 English audio track which is clear, but the 2.0 Japanese audio is pretty much the original recording and sounds just like it did in the 80's watching it on cheap TV speakers. So if you prefer your show in English but still want the option to watch it in Japanese from time to time that is your best bet. Both came with quite a few extras and linear notes, but the unknown for me is whether the Thinpak version of ADV's release is stripped of extras (they do that sometimes). I can't answer that because I have the singles, so someone else will have to confirm whether or not all the extras come with the ADV version. Though obviously the linear notes will not. But basically it comes down to how you prefer to watch anime. Animeigo has the clear Japanese audio, ADV has the clear English audio. Oh and ADV's version is the Macross storyline, not Robotech. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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Seems like if you just need that dub, go for the ADV version, but otherwise Animego is the clear victor here.
In addition, it seems Macross Plus has had a new DVD remaster in Japan, it'd be nice to get my hands on that one. And maybe Macross II someday as well. The rest of the Macross franchise I have no hope for, most of all being 7 with its 49 episodes of TV and 8 OVA episodes. |
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Dargonxtc
Posts: 4463 Location: Nc5xd7+ スターダストの海洋 |
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You know I notice you make these statements about a lot of things. A fair qualifier followed by a cleverly veiled endorsement. And I notice most of the time they are wrong. If anything there is no clear victor here. The video quality, the most important factor (and if you have ever seen the un-remastered version you will know what I am talking about), is virtually the same (personally I think the ADV transfer was a little better, but that is irrelevant). With one you have many viewing options to better accommodate viewing partners with, the other you have remastered original audio but are stuck with it. There is only a clear victor upon one's individual preferences, and since you're not seattlescotsman, I don't know how you can make such a statement (yes if he would have said it, it would be different). To be honest I think it comes down to extras. ADV had some pretty nice extras on the singles, it would be a shame to see them stripped. If the Thinpak ends up stripped (which I don't know if it is) then I think it might put the Animeigo release slightly ahead, but it's still not a clear victory and depends on the individual. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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You made it sound like the Animego clean up was better despite the better coloring on the ADV discs, sorry. If the dub was the deciding factor, which is important to a lot of people, why would anyone think twice about the the dubless version? I haven't heard the dub except for a little bit with Mari Iijima talking, and I'm not sure letting her re-voice Minmay was the best decision, unless the rest of her family also shares her accent it would be odd if she were the stand-alone one talking oddly. I think the ADV singles are all still available for $10 each, so just slightly more than the discounted ADV sale price for the boxset going on now. I have heard a lot of favor for the Animego sets before though, and it seems the price is a lot less than the other options right now as well. Are the songs changed in the dub or is just remastered audio? |
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Dargonxtc
Posts: 4463 Location: Nc5xd7+ スターダストの海洋 |
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Just to be clear, when it comes to video they are virtually the same (yes I think ADVs transfer is better, but it's so small of a difference I just might be imagining things). The coloring I was talking about was the coloring of subtitles. The Animeigo version makes use of colored subtitles. So does the ADV version, but some people will say they don't but that's a lie. Despite that, (I don't know if it's the font, or where they locate them or what) the Animeigo version's subtitles are still slightly easier to read. That was the edge I was talking about. |
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seattlescotsman
Posts: 39 Location: Seattle |
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Thanks for your help! You answered all my questions completely.
I think I'm going to go with the ADV thinpack, for a couple of reasons. The main thing I was worried about was the video quality, since the ADV promotional blurb doesn't make a big deal out of the film being remastered, but if the video quality is about the same, then it'd be nice to be able to choose between subs or dubs. Also, I searched around and found a list of ADV extras on the AnimeOnDVD board (thanks very much to AnimeOnDVD user WTK for compiling this great list!), and it looks like the ADV thinpack does come with all the extras that the singles did. Finally, I love that the ADV version is in a thinpack. My bookcases are packed enough as it is, so it's always nice when I can get a 36-episode-long series in a compact package. Once again, thanks very much for your thoughts. I had no clue which version to get before, and now I have a pretty good idea of the pros / cons of each version. |
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