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lilynn
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:24 pm
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OK, first of all, I think most of us agree with the fact that live action adaptation of anime/manga had been suck until now. However, looking at some anime/manga titles, I think there is potential for them to be a good live action movie if they are properly created. There are a lot of room for discussion but I'm going to make it as simple as possible.
I would use Fullmetal Alchemist for an example. Why?
1. Story - The story is very good and well developed. For this to become a success, the author must be the scriptwriter of the movie. The writer is the one who understand the most how the characters should be and how the setting looks like. It's something like J.K. Rowling being the integral part of Harry Potter development. She picked the actors and decide how the whole story would be shown in the big screen. The author at least should pick the director by himself.
2. Settings - Since it is based on western culture, it is more appealing to the western people. I'm not saying Japanese culture (majority of manga setting) is not famous, I'm sure a lot of people want to know more about Japan. But it's just that people recognize western setting a lot easier, thus it is easier for the movie to penetrate the western market. Also, I think the eastern part would understand if the actors are mainly western because they are actually based on western culture.
3. Characters - Since it is based on western culture, Hollywood is a massive pool for actors. We rarely see Asian face in the manga (other than those from Xing country) so it is easier to find world class actors who can fill the Asian role. For example, Zhang Ziyi as Lan Fan (just example! =p)
4. The concept - For me, FMA has a very unique concept. Alchemy as the most advanced technology, how they use alchemy as weapon rather than how alchemy used in real world, wide range of alchemist abilities, the characteristics of the antagonists and homunculus. These are not part of your everyday concept in the cinema.
5. Special effect - We are living in HD era where lousy movie looks good when it's 3D. There aren't many sophisticated and "that-looks-impossible" effects in the manga. Looking at current 3D technology where we hardly can differentiate between reality or fiction, I don't think bringing FMA to live is impossible. Transformers looks impossible for me.
6. The popularity - FMA even had been nominated for New York Times Best Manga List. If New York Times even acknowledged it, I think the major population of the western people would have slight idea about it.
The reasons above I think more than enough to say FMA has a lot of potential to be brought into live action.
However, there is one drawback which is comedy. We all know that comedy in manga typically is a form of exaggeration. It is rarely something that can be done in real life. FMA is famous for its balance of action and comedy, so for those people who really understand about FMA, this might be a drawback if the comedy is not delivered properly in the movie.
I think I've explained my perspective. Feel free to write your opinion about it, I might missed something and I would love to discuss it. I just feel that with the current technology and available resources, anime adaptation movie can be a lot better than the previous ones.
If you have any suggestion on potential anime for live action, feel free to leave your opinion. I would like to know more potential anime which might blow our mind in the future. =)
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Rukiia
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:25 pm
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...No....just.....no. Dragon Ball Evolution was enough punishment.
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Animeking1108
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:05 am
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Rukiia wrote: | ...No....just.....no. Dragon Ball Evolution was enough punishment. |
Did you actually bother reading his post?
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Rukiia
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:09 am
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Animeking1108 wrote: |
Rukiia wrote: | ...No....just.....no. Dragon Ball Evolution was enough punishment. |
Did you actually bother reading his post? |
I did actually. My reply remains the same. Shows like FMA, DBZ, and One Piece simply can't pull off being live action. Even the Japanese can't pull off proper live action movies (with the exception of some based off school romance/drama manga/Anime). Look at the Devilman (shame for this one since it had alot of potential), and Saikano LA movies for example. It was hard to take them seriously because they were made so incredibly corny and cheesy to watch. Heck, even the Transformers LA movies went downhill since it was more about the humans then the robots. I shudder to think on what they would do to Alphonse in FMA if they were to do a live action movie.
I also find that the LA adaptions fail to show off that special magic that a series had in their Anime/Manga counterpart. I remember with Saikano's Anime it made me sad/sympathetic towards the characters. The LA movie, however, made me laugh when it was suppose to be an adaption of a dramatic, apocalyptic, romance series. I watched alot of LA movies/TV shows and only found Life to be good.
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infiltration.cru
Joined: 28 Jan 2012
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:29 am
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Are you all crazy? The live action adaptation of Fist of the North Star is phenomenal. Granted, Gary Daniels is not a quarter as humongous and impressive as Kenshiro, but who cares, heads explode as power points are pressed and righteous kung fu is delivered.
I, for one, would really like to see a Ghost in the Shell adaptation done by the 80s Ridley Scott but I assume that this is not possible due to lack of time travelling devices. And this is a bummer, since GitS took so many cues from Blade Runner that I think it would have been awesome as an 80s film rather than one done nowadays. But I guess we're all lucky, since it seems to have been dropped.
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Polycell
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:05 am
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lilynn wrote: | 1. Story - The story is very good and well developed. For this to become a success, the author must be the scriptwriter of the movie. The writer is the one who understand the most how the characters should be and how the setting looks like. It's something like J.K. Rowling being the integral part of Harry Potter development. She picked the actors and decide how the whole story would be shown in the big screen. The author at least should pick the director by himself. |
The Harry Potters movies are a bad example, since as they went along they stopped bothering to be inclusive to folks who hadn't read the novels.
Rukiia wrote: | I shudder to think on what they would do to Alphonse in FMA if they were to do a live action movie. |
They should just stick a suit on somebody most of the time
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Rukiia
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:37 am
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Polycell wrote: |
Rukiia wrote: | I shudder to think on what they would do to Alphonse in FMA if they were to do a live action movie. |
They should just stick a suit on somebody most of the time |
Maybe back in the 80ies they would have. But its 2012 now so they would most likely go with CG.
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Lycosyncer
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:07 pm
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Compared to other major anime properties, FMA is pretty reasonable to adapt and as for any changes made to it, come on, it's a live action adaptation so certain liberties must be made but the big question is what should be kept or which should be cut and have it be saved for a potential sequel.
As for what should happen with Alphonse, due to the amazing motion capture and CG for Avatar and Rise of the Planet of the Apes, I say CG and motion capture would be the best way to go for him.
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Animeking1108
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:28 pm
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Lycosyncer wrote: | Compared to other major anime properties, FMA is pretty reasonable to adapt and as for any changes made to it, come on, it's a live action adaptation so certain liberties must be made but the big question is what should be kept or which should be cut and have it be saved for a potential sequel.
As for what should happen with Alphonse, due to the amazing motion capture and CG for Avatar and Rise of the Planet of the Apes, I say CG and motion capture would be the best way to go for him. |
If Iron Man can have an actual suit (CGI in some scenes), why not Alphonse?
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penguintruth
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:15 pm
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I always thought Kenichi Sonoda's Gunsmith Cats was a no-brainer for an American live-action film. It takes place in Chicago, the characters are pretty much all American, and it's got guns, muscle cars, sex, and violence up the whazoo. I mean, really, it would be Gone in 60 Seconds meets Lethal Weapon. It couldn't get more American if you inked it with a bald eagle feather pen while eating a dirty water hot dog while wearing only the US flag and saluting high speed jets passing overhead during a 4th of the July parade.
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rootsofjustice
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:01 pm
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Rukiia wrote: |
Polycell wrote: |
Rukiia wrote: | I shudder to think on what they would do to Alphonse in FMA if they were to do a live action movie. |
They should just stick a suit on somebody most of the time |
Maybe back in the 80ies they would have. But its 2012 now so they would most likely go with CG. |
Actually, a human being wearing a green hood inside an actual suit of armor would probably suffice. In scenes where Alphonse is torn apart or otherwise components are exposed, more components of a green suit could be used. The child actor they use for his voice could stand offstage and call out his lines to provide reference for the other actors and go into a recording booth in post production to provide the final voice to the character. In high action shots, motion capture would probably be acceptable and full CG for otherwise impossible shots.
The best candidates for live action would probably be Baccano and Black Lagoon. Otherwise, shonen series like One Piece and Dragonball could be done fully CG animated.
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Tenbyakugon
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:13 pm
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Ristorante Paradiso, although the actors would actually have to be Italian. No Japanese or American actors playing Italians, please.
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RHachicho
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:08 pm
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Personally I think the whole premise is a bad idea. Things designed to be animated often fare poorly in translation to live action. Animators have a lot more artistic freedom than those who film live action movies. Ink on a page (or pixels on a screen i guess these days) Do just what you want them to do and the low detail level and lack of a need for depth mean that impressive things can be done on a low budget. And concepts that where central to the atmosphere of an animated show (crazy anime faces anyone?) become very hard to represent. To actually represent the true scope of an animated production in live action would require a tremendous amount of money and talent. And that isn't going to happen without guaranteed sales. This was already tried with FF7 Advent children and we all know how that went down. Right now it would take a miracle for any Anime based live action production to get the backing it needs and even then unless their writers are truly talented the general stigma against Anime will prevent it from doing that well outside Asia.
And then Dragonball Evolution happened.
And the whole movie industry groaned and went "never again".
And I honestly can't blame them.
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Clyde_Cash
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:50 pm
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Rukiia wrote: | ...No....just.....no. Dragon Ball Evolution was enough punishment. |
There was a Chinese DBZ flick that renamed the Dragon Balls "Dragon Pearls". Don't know how otherwise faithful it was, though.
Monster, Paradise Kiss, and Toei's trendy anime trilogy would all be done well in live-action. Boys Over Flowers had a Korean adaptation IIRC. Monster? It looks like something the Big Four networks would air in a prime time slot--the kind of show that'd win an Emmy.
Wonder how the Sonichu anime would look in live-action...maybe cast some skinny actor in a fatsuit as Chris. Maybe add a CGI Sonichu, Rosechu, etc.
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st_owly
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:09 am
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I've said in the past that the anime/manga which I think would transition best to live action are ones set in the real world, so drama/school life shows. Nodame Cantabile worked really well as a drama series, and the Paradise Kiss, Kimi ni Todoke and Bokura ga Ita movies all worked well too, in my opinion. Unless you can get some seriously good CG going, I don't think any live action adaption of a fantasy etc anime (produced in Japan or Hollywood) will turn out that well.
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