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walw6pK4Alo
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 Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:38 pm
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How did this one escape Disney anyway? Do they loathe Goro Miyazaki, or did they just not want to have it around and sit on it without plans to release like they did with Only Yesterday? Better anyone than that fate.
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Soundmonkey44
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:48 pm
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Looking forward to it. As for why Disney passed, well Tales of Earthsea seems to have gotten lots of negativity, so maybe they didn't want another Goro flick. Or maybe GKids just gave Ghibli a better offer.
Whatever the case, just glad its coming over, can't wait to see it.
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GATSU
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:05 pm
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walw+Soundmonkey: It's not Goro. It's that Disney doesn't think it would sell big to non-Japanese viewers. I'm just hoping it'll lead to them also getting the home vid rights to Only Yesterday and Ocean Waves, too.
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enurtsol
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:05 am
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It seems with new Ghibli films, unless it's Hayao Miyazaki or marketable to Western mainstream, it's no longer automatic for Disney. Maybe the mere "Ghibli label" has lost some of its marketable luster years since the Academy award...............
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:13 am
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| enurtsol wrote: | | It seems with new Ghibli films, unless it's Hayao Miyazaki or marketable to Western mainstream, it's no longer automatic for Disney. Maybe the mere "Ghibli label" has lost some of its marketable luster years since the Academy award............... |
I'm starting to wonder if Arrietty was brought over because Miyazaki still had his named attached to production. Makes me also speculate on what's going to happen with Takahata's take on the Tale of the Bamboo Cutter, I doubt the subject matter will be too wild, unless he takes it in that direction. I don't think he'd be telling the folktole straight, there'd be no point in using big budget money and time for a production that dry. But that's years off.
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GATSU
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:02 am
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walw: Arrietty was brought over, because it's the kind of 2D animated movie Disney used to make. In other words, it fits in with their brand.
| Quote: | | Makes me also speculate on what's going to happen with Takahata's take on the Tale of the Bamboo Cutter, I doubt the subject matter will be too wild, unless he takes it in that direction. |
Let's wait for him to actually get it off the ground this time. 
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Jeikobu
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:05 pm
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As long as they also release the original Japanese language version with the original Japanese logos and credits, it makes no difference to me. Maybe since Disney's not handling this one there will be some slim chance of some theaters showing it in Japanese also? Probably unlikely but I can dream.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:24 pm
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| GATSU wrote: | walw: Arrietty was brought over, because it's the kind of 2D animated movie Disney used to make. In other words, it fits in with their brand.
| Quote: | | Makes me also speculate on what's going to happen with Takahata's take on the Tale of the Bamboo Cutter, I doubt the subject matter will be too wild, unless he takes it in that direction. |
Let's wait for him to actually get it off the ground this time. |
Arrietty was written by Miyazaki, meaning he's fundamental with that movie's creation and can be legitimately marketed in that fashion; "Adapted Screenplay by [World Beloved and Lasseter's Darling] Hayao Miyazaki" works pretty well. That's definitely a big plus for that film's success or for why Lasseter & co. would give it the same attention they would offer a film that Miyazaki directed.
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GATSU
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:35 pm
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walw: Again, if Miyazaki's name on a product was a motivator for Disney to bring it here, then we'd have gotten Only Yesterday a long time ago, since he produced it, too.
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PurpleWarrior13
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:56 pm
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Disney probably didn't grab this because it's not a typical kids' animated film. However, some of their past Ghibli releases have fit that bill as well...
I wonder what GKids' DVD release will be like. 
| Quote: | | As long as they also release the original Japanese language version with the original Japanese logos and credits, it makes no difference to me. Maybe since Disney's not handling this one there will be some slim chance of some theaters showing it in Japanese also? Probably unlikely but I can dream. |
Probably in a few screens. GKids' theatrical release of past Ghibli films are mostly English-dubbed, but there have also been several Japanese screenings. 
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CrownKlown
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:55 pm
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You guys are forgetting another possibility, maybe Ghibli is trying to put out their own products and by pass Disney. Some anime companies are starting to add English subtitles to their series, and with Japan now being in region 1 like the US with blu ray they can bypass US companies.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:58 pm
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| CrownKlown wrote: | | You guys are forgetting another possibility, maybe Ghibli is trying to put out their own products and by pass Disney. Some anime companies are starting to add English subtitles to their series, and with Japan now being in region 1 like the US with blu ray they can bypass US companies. |
Disney gets them in theaters, though, because Disney is the all-powerful genie.
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GATSU
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:18 pm
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walw: Yeah, Ghibli probably gets the best financial return it possibly could through Disney in America. But maybe they feel The Mouse is lumping Ghibli's stuff in with those other toons too much, rather than trying to distinguish it from the pack. And while GKIDS is a smaller distributor than Disney, they do put in a lot more effort to attract interest in the Ghibli library as a whole. And I think it helps build a bigger audience outside of the demo of Wal-Mart shoppers looking for a PG Disney-branded animated flick to keep their kids out of their hair for a while. Furthermore, Ghibli probably doesn't like the idea that it's missing out on potential revenue from Poppy Hill, just because Disney doesn't want to handle it. And if they're going to promote both Miyazaki and Takahata next year, maybe they don't have confidence the productions will necessarily catch on in Japan, since Takahata is pretty damned niche over there.
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GATSU
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:26 pm
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Also, it's pretty common knowledge, but Ghibli's underestimated the American audience for its product for a while now. And only recently has it observed the actual attendance level of people who flock to these screenings and events, even if it's still on a small scale. Miyazaki had to be impressed by all the people who showed up during his Cali tour a few years back. And I think they feel that they've been undervaluing their brand in America. Therefore, they want to promote it the way they would in Japan and Europe, albeit once again on a smaller scale.
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Polycell
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:33 pm
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Having a backup plan in case Disney doesn't want to tackle a flick just makes sense, but I doubt Ghibli's going to break with the almighty anytime soon. So we're in a situation where Disney gets first crack and GKids gets everything they won't release or won't release to Ghibli's liking unless and until "Ghibli" starts carrying a lot more weight.
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