Forum - View topicArgument Against Transmitting Mature Anime on TV.
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Mohawk52
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I just had an interesting reply to my on going campaign to try to get mature, (13 and up) anime titles on a UK TV channel called Sky One, and I would just like to get everyone's reaction to it as I was a bit surprised by it.. It went like this;
Your thoughts?
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Golgo13
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Well, in America, we do have TV stations geared towards a mature audiance or around those lines. G4 is aimed at video game players, so naturally anime just falls into place on that network. Cartoon Network started with a little anime and the popularity just grew and grew. So I would suggest starting that station out on anime geared towards kids and build from that. Easiest example: Sailor Moon.
Also, could you give a little more info such as what channel Sky One is and which anime you pitched to them? |
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cymbol
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nah, they are a business, and they don't see the interest in the populace for programmes like that, which means advertisements would be hard to sell. Not to mention they have to put into work to screen the material, chop it, slice it, censor it, etc etc. The clear decision would be not to pursue such a program. (they are evil, even when they seem to act kindly, it is always for the $ in the long run)
and about trying to get anime series on TV... why? I must say that I am somewhat perverted in this matter. I like certain things because most won't, and I turn against certain things because most like it. And so a person like me probably wouldn't campaign for anime series on tv stations. Especially when it might come out horribly dubbed, or horribly subbed with m1ssp3ll1ngs. |
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Mohawk52
Posts: 8202 Location: England, UK |
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Sky One is a part of the British Sky Broadcasting company. It is a DTH Digital Satellite distributor.
http://www.sky.com/skycom/home/ One title I suggested was "Cowboy Bebop". |
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Dragononi
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I watch a lot of anime on TV, and yes it is cut (they are getting better though) but I think it is good that there is anime on TV. Why? Because it allows more people to watch it and creates a bigger fan base. Also there are many series I would not have seen if it was not on TV. |
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jsyxx
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I could really care less about a bigger fanbase. It just means more biased fanboys. The thing I would be happy about is more shows getting licensed and released on DVD at more reasonable prices.
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Aaron White
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Posts: 1365 Location: Birmingham, Alabama |
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There's nothing inherently evil about trying to make money, as you will discover once you have to pay your own rent, bills, etc. This isn't a company that's trying to keep anyone from viewing mature anime; they're just choosing not to broadcast it. That doesn't make them villians. |
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Mitsuhide A.
Posts: 200 Location: somewhere where you aren't |
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the last part of your post is the best reason for having a larger fanbase. With more fans, TV stations will air more anime. Of course this means that TV station will have to pay anime companies for airing these shows, but then again, more people will opt to watch anime on TV rather than buy DVD's. In response to this, anime companies will likely lower DVD prices to remain competitive in the DVD market. In addition, larger fanbases bring more competition amongst companies. Competition, will again drive prices down. If you need proof look at the gaming industry. With such a rapidly fanbase, and more companies entering the fray, bussinesses are now offering an array of price drops and promotional deals to remain competitive. Even amongst stores, deals are being made for the trade of games. So before you dub new fans as only being fanboys, you might want to think of how they'll help your wallet |
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gnikdrazil
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Adult Swim on Cartoon Network was put on the map with the help of Cowboy Bebop. The series was one of its more popular titles when it was beginning. Now more stations are gearing towards adult audience with anime. G4Tech TV, Encore, and the Anime Network all have that type of programming. They wouldn't continue using a bad programming if it wasn't gaining an audience.
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Mitsuhide A.
Posts: 200 Location: somewhere where you aren't |
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I beg to differ on that point. Cowboy Bebop put anime on the adult swim map. Shows like Home Movies and Family Guy brought overall attention to adult swim. In addition, i dont think that programming has to gain an audience in audience in order for stations to deem it as being usful. Instead it just has to sustain a better audience than what is currently being shown. In the case of Cowboy Bebop and the rest of Adult Swim, they were and still are being shown at dead times in CN's target market (7-12ish), which makes them a better alternative to attacking the available market (older peopleish). This doesnt necessarily guarrantee that Bebop is a blockbluster success; it only shows that Bebop is better programming for that time slot. |
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Iron Chef
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I dunno about that. While I did enjoy the other shows that were airing on AS, I watched mainly for the anime they were showing. At the time, it was the chance to see Gundam Wing "unedited," which meant they said "damn" instead of "darn." Granted, I haven't watched Adult Swim in a while, but I seem to recall them changing focus from the action-oriented cartoons to the humour-oriented stuff, though most of the humourous stuff was being produced by Williams Street, their own studio. Whether this was due to Space Ghost and Aqua Teen Hunger Force being wildly popular or just them tooting their own horn, I don't know for sure.
Ah, marketing...I hated that job. Anyway, you're probably right. When you consider that Bebop was most likely going up against the evening news and late-night talkshows, I'd consider it a better deal, too. Also, I'm almost certain that the ratings were for "cable-only" stations as opposed to, well, everything else I guess, so the numbers might be skewed a bit. As for the base of this thread, mature-themed anime are a dicey gamble for the most part. In spite of anime's growing popularity, the masses probably still see anything animated as a child's medium, even though there are numerous examples to the contrary, mainstream (i.e. Disney) or otherwise. There are definitely still some titles I would hold back on (Elfen Lied and pretty much all hentai) for now, but in a few years this sort of stuff will be commonplace. Anyone remember the Brady's having separate beds back in the day? Yeah, a married couple sharing a bed was considered too risque. |
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Nagisa
Moderator
 Posts: 6128 Location: Atlanta-ish, Jawjuh |
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Gundam Wing uncut ran on Toonami Midnight Run, but never Adult Swim. The only three Gundam titles that ever ran on AS were Mobile Suit Gundam (for a whopping...ten-ish episodes), Gundam 0083 (Toonami edit, though it never ran on that block), and the Char's Counterattack movie (which I'd absolutely love to see them play again). Bebop was Adult Swim's first & only anime for a long while until they moved it to Saturday with Yuu Yuu Hakusho, Gundam 0083, Pilot Candidate (yech!), and the Toonami edits of Tenchi Muyo! & Outlaw Star. |
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jsyxx
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Pilor Candidate, Michael Jackson's favorite mecha anime.
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