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leafy sea dragon
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Interesting. I've seen those coins with the square holes in them, and I even have a few, but nearly all depictions I've seen of them associate them with China rather than Japan (and the ones I have are Chinese). Of course, I watch TV and movies from all over the world.
Heh, thanks for the detailed explanation. I thought about those big gold coins and how they were probably worth a lot, so I figured you wouldn't see them very often (considering stories like Samurai Champloo and Naruto would have someone exchange just one of them for lots of stuff). Sounds like aside from those old Chinese coins, there wouldn't be much stuff that can lend well to flipping, and I can say through personal experience that it's a lot more cumbersome to flip those Chinese coins due to the hole in the middle (as your thumbtip might lodge itself in the hole, preventing it from flying through the air properly, and their aerodynamics are really weird). |
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Zin5ki
Posts: 6680 Location: London, UK |
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I've been told that tournaments are a rather tense affair. For a human to manually produce an arbitrarily large and seemingly random set of values—without inadvertently creating any discernible patterns while doing so—must take its toll on their mental constitution. |
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DirtyCircle
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The game was mentioned in passing in this week's episode to INUYASHIKI....
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leafy sea dragon
Posts: 7163 Location: Another Kingdom |
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In a way, that's true, but competitive rock-paper-scissors is much like competitive poker in that the randomization is overshadowed by tells, namely reading your opponents' tells while concealing your own. The best rock-paper-scissors competitors are good at discerning what the opponents will do and reacting accordingly while preventing the people they're rock-paper-scissoring against from doing the same. It's not so much randomization as much as it is a battle of wits. |
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Kadmos1
Posts: 13590 Location: In Phoenix but has an 85308 ZIP |
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leafy sea dragon, I attend a Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG tournament most Sundays at a local comic book store. I still find a RPS tourney to be dull.
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leafy sea dragon
Posts: 7163 Location: Another Kingdom |
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That's perfectly fine. I would still recommend to see at least one of them, if only for their familiarity and some insight into the nature of human competition.
I personally don't find bingo machine competitions to be that exciting, but some of those competitors are so overflowing with enthusiasm for bingo machines and can talk for hours and hours on various techniques, strategies, and skills needed to get the edge over other people. (Bingo machines are those games where you pull a plunger to launch balls into holes corresponding to a 5x5 grid, and your goal is to make a 5-in-a-row. They were banned in the United States as they're classified as gambling machines, as at that time, there was no one to step up to argue, let alone prove, that it is a game of skill.) |
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RocketJew
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Never heard of it. Maybe Justin should realize that Europe is NOT just France. |
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shosakukan
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Ancient Japanese people started to mint their coins with a square hole when they were importing things from Tang-dynasty China, and scholars think ancient Japanese coins with a square hole were modelled on ancient Chinese coins with a square hole. So it is no wonder that they resemble each other. Last edited by shosakukan on Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:57 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Alan45
Village Elder
Posts: 9940 Location: Virginia |
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leafy sea dragon wrote:
Game companies in the US have used a good imitation of those coins as score counters in Mahjong sets. If the ones you have don't look terribly old that may be the source. |
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shosakukan
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Speaking of replicas, Japanese toy company Epoch sold replicas of old Japanese coins at 100 yen a replica via gacha-gacha (capsule-toy vending machines). http://butsuyoku.net/shokugan/kosen/index.html https://wispblog.tree-web.net/data/1/page_1_3025.html Maybe they can be used as realia. Since some real early-modern Japanese coins with a square hole are not very rare numismatics-wise, I have seen Japanese dealers in old coins sell them at (the equivalent to) a few dollars an old coin. |
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leafy sea dragon
Posts: 7163 Location: Another Kingdom |
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Nah, these look incredibly aged and a bit rusted. Nobody in my family and none of my friends have ever played mahjong, and I didn't even learn the rules until earlier this year. |
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Naiera
Posts: 42 Location: Denmark |
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It is most certainly NOT known as "roshambo" all over Europe.
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shosakukan
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It may be interesting to examine the characters on the coins and to identify them numismatics-wise. |
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