Forum - View topicNEWS: Coca-Cola 'Anime' Commercial on Daytona 500
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Nagisa
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So that gives you the right to take scathing, ignorant shots at those that do enjoy it? If I were you, I wouldn't dare speak up the next time someone generalises CLAMP or Jhonen Vasquez fans as whining, self-important, self-martyring gothy kids. Kind of a "pot calling the kettle black" thing there...
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And again... Maybe if you actually had sources to prove all this, I wouldn't feel the need to speak up (I'm not exactly a Nascar fan myself, though there are a few drivers I'm a bit partial to), but so far all you've done is point blind fingers at an entire group of people just because they don't conform to your personal, apparently Nny-influenced worldview. Revolting. Simply revolting. |
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Craeyst Raygal
 Posts: 1383 Location: In the garage, beneath a 1970 MGB GT. |
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Let's start with motorsports are the only true "equal oppurtunity employer" and then build from there.
In motorsports, there's only two ways to get a ride. Be good. Have money. You can buy a ride with enough money, but you can't get a ride unless you have talent. You can't get a sponsor if you don't have talent. You can't win races if you don't have talent (and a little bit of luck). Part of the reason this is so important is because unlike baseball or basketball (and to a lesser extent football) a mistake on track can KILL you. I've seen moments where drivers have "just plain ran out of talent". Hell, I broke my collarbone in one. I was eight, it was a 1/4 midget race. Probably cost me my shot at Indy because the wreck totalled my car - only one I could afford - and took me out of the feeder series loop until I was 16 and started testing 305 Sprints. A driver should not (and, so long as a responsible sanctioning body like NASCAR is in existence, will not) set foot on a race track unless they prove they are qalified. Fortunately, thanks to NASCAR's more mainstream presence these days and their move away from their "redneck" roots (sacrificing tons of history in the process, such as the closing of North Wilkesboro, the sacriligeous move of the Labor Day race from Darlington to California, and Rockingham losing a date) drivers from all walks of life are now stepping up and throwing their hat in the ring. You have Bill Lester in the Craftsman Truck series who drives for Toyota. Led at Daytona today, too. He was fighting to get back onto the lead lap after a pre-caution flag pitstop put him a lap down, but unfortunately he got tangled with Ron Hornaday and Brendan Gaughan. You have Adrian Fernandez, moving from the CART Champ Car ranks to try out Nextel Cup as well as act as NASCAR's Mexican ambassador since the Busch series is heading to the road course at Mexico City this year. There's also Christian Fittipaldi and Michel Jourdain Jr. Also open wheel refugees. Another strong running driver in today's Craftsman Truck race was Shigeaki Hattori, formerly of the Indy Racing League. He was solidly in the top five until he too got caught up in a large wreck. Women? Kelly Sutton and Deborah Renshaw both took the green just today. And women are not new news on the grid in racing anywhere. Heck, let's talk about women drivers who are winners, nay dominant champions. :Michele Mouton - World Rally Champion 1983 :Shirley "Cha-Cha" Muldowney - multiple time NHRA Top Fuel Dragster champion, amongst top ten winningest Top Fuel drivers :Danica Patrick - perennial front runner in Toyota Atlantic series, debuting in Indy Racing League this year :Sarah Fisher - multiple podiums in Indy Racing League, USAC Midget feature winner, currently competing in NASCAR's Winston West division :Lyn St. James - 1992 Indy Rookie of the Year, winner of GTO class at the IMSA 24 Hours of Daytona sports car race in 1987 AND 1991, :Cheryl Glass - Northwest Sprint Car Association rookie of the year 1981, Skagit Speedway sprint car class champion 1981 (by the way, she was also black and is a member of the sprint car racing Hall of Fame) :Angelle Savoie - 3 time NHRA Pro Stock Bike champion And the list just keeps on going. The reason, though, that women, minorities, and other such difference in people aren't trumped up in racing is because the racing world views that sort of thing as PERFECTLY MEANINGLESS. Bill Lester isn't a black driver. He's a driver. Alex Zanardi isn't a driver without legs. He's a driver. Michel Jourdain Jr. isn't a hispanic driver. He's a driver. Sarah Fisher isn't a woman driver. She's a driver. Once you strap into the car, none of that matters. What matters is CAN YOU DRIVE THE DAMN CAR? As such, all that matters in racing is driver skill. Discrimination went out the door in the mid 60's when black car owners/builders Fred Stone and Tim Woods fielded a 1941 Willys for their white driver, Doug Cook, and proceeded to beat the pants off of everyone else in the Gasser class from 1961 to 1965. The Stone, Woods, and Cook car was so dominant, and their team so iconic, that Revell produced model kits of the infamous Willys while Aurora AFX produced slot cars. Most people in racing know the SWC Willys, but never even realize that it was fielded by a multi-racial team. The reason? Because in racing, the only thing that matters is how well you race. |
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littlegreenwolf
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I comment on what intrests me. I spend quite a bit of my life on Nascar, so I believe I have a right to call it what I want, and critisize it in any way, with substantial experience/proof of course. I understand it as much as I can, and believe there isn't really anything more to understand.
Wow, you see I like a certain comic, and you think you know all about me. Also, for your info, it's Squee, not Nny. 
Since you seem to have the wrong opinion of me, I'll inform you I don't agree with Nny on his views of the world. And yeah, I suppose my continous use of the word rednecks is revolting. Just replace my redneck word usage with racists, since that's ecentially what I mean. Is that better? Also, whatever happened to "Redneck" pride. I thought they loved calling themselves that. Scuse me while I go sing a certain song by Gretchen Wilson. *gasp!* I KNOW COUNTRY. And as to the crashing comment, it's commonly known one of the main reasons most fans go to the races is for crashes. It's some of the favourite things to describe when coming back from a race. Only when someone dies is it bad. You want some "sources", fine. An article about racism in Nascar. Third paragraph is mainly why Nascar is considered racists. http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=101541 Here's something I just found which I find sickenly amusing, and the general idea that every Nascar fan I've ran into down here in the south has. http://www.missouricsa.com/glennrant Not a "great" source, but still, a good example on the general view of NASCAR. I know not everyone in Nascar is southern, but that there is what I'm surrounded by. Can you really blame my view of Nascar fans? Nascar started in the south, and was full of white supremacists. In the north I hear it isn't as bad, but come to a southern race and you'll be surrounded by the "redneck" stereotype, waving the southern flag in pride, and wearing those Dixie shirts. If any African American were to show up to a race, sure, they probably wouldn't be harmed, but they most definitely would get verbal abuse. I live in the redneck region that started Nascar.. I don't consider auto racing in general redneck, but the Nascar franchise is something I do. |
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areaseven
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You got a point. I can't design new anime cars on the outdated Intrepid template. But then again, Chevy and Ford haven't changed their stock cars in a while, so I'm still good with them.
Yeah, that was a hell of a race. Almost as memorable as the 2000 Daytona truck race when Geoffrey Bodine's truck was literally shredded into a ball of fire against the wall and catch net. Here are some more samples of my works: 
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areaseven
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Finally saw the commercial today. While it borrows camera angles from Production I.G's works, the artwork is flat as well as the character animation.
On the bright side, it's 10 times better than that bland Benihana commercial. |
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ferrarimanf355
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I gotta agree here. If there wasn't the titles for the drivers, I probably couldn't tell one driver from another. And also, just as the ad was ending, it abruptly cut to the race to show a six-car wreck. Not that there's a problem with that or anything. 
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areaseven
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Another thing is that Stewart is the only one among the four in contention to win this race. Labonte blew an engine early, Harvick just isn't going forward, and Kyle Petty should've retired a long time ago. |
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biliano
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I agree with both of you. I thought that the animation was fairly average at best. The race is pretty exciting, though!
BTW, areaseven, the car designs you did are very beautiful! Thanks for posting them; I did enjoyed looking at them. Very nice work! 
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areaseven
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Thanks. Looks like I'll be designing more cars this week. Oh, great. Jeff Gordon's leading the race. He'd better not win. 
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areaseven
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Woohoo! Tony Stewart beat Gordon out of the pits. This should be the time Dale Jr. returns to the top 10.
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ferrarimanf355
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Even though I'm a #8 fan, I'm rooting for Rusty. HOT ROD! WH00T!
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biliano
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Unfortunately, he did. 
It would had been great if either Rusty Wallace or Mark Martin would have won, since this will be the last time these two great drivers will participate in the Daytona 500. Despite that, they had outstanding careers, and they will be missed in the NASCAR circuit. Last edited by biliano on Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:46 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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ferrarimanf355
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Rusty and Mark Martin finished in the top ten. Too bad they didn't win, but still, it's a good start to their farewell tours... espicially considering that both drivers tore up their cars in the second Duel race.
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areaseven
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Yeah, the race ended up becoming "A NEXTEL Cup Series of Unfortunate Events." Hopefully, this season will get better with less Jeff Gordon wins and more decent races.
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ferrarimanf355
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... but did you see the move Dale Jr. made near the end to get by Gordon to lead a few laps? Darrell Waltrip said that move was David Pearson-like. On to California, mang!
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