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littlegreenwolf
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I have to agree with Tony that that claim was rather badly based. I know quite a bit about animation, yet I still do watch anime, low production or not. Sometimes I go in for the artstyle, sometimes the story, sometimes both. It doesn't mater to me as long as I'm entertained in some way. If a show has horrible animation, it can easily make itself worth my time by backing itself up in story and characters. I go in with a love of animation to begin with, and I'm not going to hold it against a story because they couldn't get a bigger budget to tell it. The Japanese have also adapted to their budgets, and in turn developed some very intresting animation styles. |
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otimus
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Since WHEN did animated features and TV shows become all about visual splendor, and the other stuff is secondary? At least that seems what that one fellow is saying.
The problem with the majority (and not the whole).. is that a ton of of american animation, mainly television series, tends to be extremely wirey, constantly moving, non-epic, not telling a grand story of any kind, and seems to have no goal outside of an 15-by-15 minute goal. (Some exceptions would be Jackie Chan Adventures, the various very recent comic book television series, and a few others). That's not ALWAYS bad. But it is an annoying thing to hold onto. Yeah.. there's anime like that too.. But it does seem to be a lot less common in the domestic anime releases we get here. Which is one of the big things anime fans go for here. The animation is probably tip bottom on their lists, in general. They're going for storytelling, characterization, music, and a lot of anime seem to have this epic feel that a story "Grows", and has a climatic, or whatever ending. Most american cartoon series could just end, and no one would be the wiser. It'd just be "Aw, it got canned" But with some anime, it'd be like "Aww!! BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM!? DID HE FIND THE THING!?" .. and so on. If this rant made any sense.. Yay! If not.. darn. I'm not snubbing american animation by any means. I like it for what it is. I also like anime, I also like it for what it is. However, I generally greatly see many more great and wonderful and interesting stories coming from anime. I see more funny things, and sillyness and wildness coming out of american animation. Just my two cents. |
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Aaron White
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Yes. "Good animation" isn't just about traditional full animation, as great as that can be. When animators don't have the option of full animation it forces them to find other ways to tell a good story. Editing, shot composition, voice acting become more important as frame rates drop. I'm really interested in how animators use the mise-en-scene to tell the story when they can't use movement. |
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AnimeHeretic
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Of course, I think that this year's releases wasn't that good. Last one I thought anime deserved a win was with Satoshi Kon's Tokyo Godfathers. I understand that it was never submitted for an award though
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Cowpunk
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Not for an Annie but it and Millenium Actress were both submitted for the Oscar animated feature category. Neither got past the committee, Brother Bear did get on the ballot. This has become the motivation for my rants about how the US industry can't deal with animation that is not either for kids or a sitcom. |
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Tenchi
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That's because they got they both got such limited distribution that few Academy members saw them in the first place to be able to nominate them, and none of them had any buzz from Ebert, who didn't get to see Tokyo Godfathers until after the nomination ballots were in. It's not really a bias against mature animation if they weren't able to see them. Remember that Academy members can't see everything and they place a priority on the potential Best Picture nominees. Best Animated Feature is just a sideshow category that doesn't get nearly the same level of attention from them. Personally, I thought Brother Bear was underrated... if I could have deep-sixed one of the nominees to put in a Kon film, it would actually have been The Triplets of Belleville, which was quirky but not that interesting. |
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