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MysteryGreenTea
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Wow, look at that list. Goes to show you you can't hide from the law.
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tudza
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Why are these people re-inventing the wheel when Freenet already exists?
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Greboruri
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![]() Regardless, maybe Japanese companies should take a look at what happened in Singapore with Odex. They should really have a good hard think about what they're doing and what they're trying to achieve and if this is truly the best solution. Alienating your customer base isn't good idea, even if you think those downloading don't pay for your products (which in that case, why are they bothering in the first place?). |
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kefkaownsall
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Don't we need RAWS for AMVs? |
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edzieba
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configspace
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Even if you discount the unemployed persons, you still have to remember that it can cost $1200 to own just one show. (24 ep, 2 ep / dvd) Furthermore, people like to assume that people who download illegally buy nothing and people who don't buy everything, when the truth is actually closer to the opposite. So despite pirating, they've just removed 10 paying consumers of their goods. Customers who, for example, might not have afforded the lucky star DVDs but did buy a couple of figures instead. The same customers who would've bought nothing at all had they not download lucky star to begin with. If they really throw down the hatchet come Jan 1, I can see Japan becoming another Odexed place.
Yep (or alternatively softsubs; but they also need raws to begin with). And this would also harm Kadokawa's strategy with youtube as well, not to mention their efforts in embracing co-opted consumer content overall. Last edited by configspace on Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:28 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Lothar
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I would be angry at all of the "glad the bastards got caught, rot in jail" posts. However, it seems that no matter how serious or trivial an offense is - any offense - that is discussed in a thread, there is always at least one person who cheers for the police/prosecution. It could have been a woman who was beaten by the Taliban government for wearing a hijab instead of a burka c. 1999, and there would always be at least one a**hole posting, "She should have known what was going to happen; can't feel sorry for her." Perhaps he (they're almost always men) was trolling. Maybe he's a misanthrope. It might be that he was genuinely that dumb/unreasonable when it comes to the application of state power. But it always happens.
And that is why I hate the Internet. |
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Jih2
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I'm glad you think that highly of your own opinion.../sarcasm |
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Lothar
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Care to clarify? |
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Jih2
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You're using your own personal ideas of justice to say others way of thinking are ridiculous because they follow the law more strictly. Thus if one doesn't think as yourself they're being illogical.
Cue semantics war. |
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Lothar
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Nice way of cutting off debate, because if I respond then I'm just engaging in a semantics war because your own idea is generally correct. /sarcasm |
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Jih2
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Except that I'm only saying that I'm correct in describing what you're doing. You're saying your subjective opinion on the situation beats out another's. There's no reason to listen to your opinion if you don't have anything on your side but you. I'd say that correctly sums up what I initially responded to right? Your sarcastically mocking and remarking on how ridiculous some other group of people think simply because it appears moronic to yourself.
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Lothar
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As long as anything I say is just a "semantics war" to you, I've already "lost", so debating with you is pointless.
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ikillchicken
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Let's actually think about the specifics of what is lost versus what is gained for a minute though. If there was no money to be made then practically all anime TV shows, movies, OVAs wouldn't exist. Now I know that a lot of that stuff is shit. But clearly there are a ton of notable for profit works as well that managed to be great despite attempting to profit. We'd be sacrificing all that too. Now I guess your thinking is that as a result of this many of these people will pursue independent work. Well, that's nice in theory but in practicality how many are actually going to succeed? Even if you assume that these people all just love anime so much, the truth is that the vast majority are probably just going to accept that anime isn't a job and move on. Especially the numerous little guys who do all the grunt work. Then there's the ones who simply won't have the time it would take. Maybe they're willing to put in the hours and hours it would take to realize their idea but it's simply not possible if they also want to support themselves and their family. Of course then there's the stuff that even the most committed person could simply never create on their own. There's the massively extended time it will take to create just one short feature. The biggest thing to keep in mind is that there's no reason to assume these independent works will actually be any good. Even if someone puts the time and effort in, they still may not be that talented. There's also the major concern that the massive difficulty of independent production will actually ruin a work by forcing the creator to make a variety of sacrifices. In effect, this can be just as limiting if not more so than the need to be profitable. In the end, yeah maybe you will see a few more anime like Voices. But that's really all it will be. A tiny few. In return you would be sacrificing the mountain of titles that did attempt to turn a profit and yet were also fantastic.
Why don't you quote the person who is apparently doing this (assuming they exist). I actually agree in a sense. Claiming that if someone breaks a law, regardless of whether it is just, they deserve to be punished is absurd. That said, unless you actually have some particular post(s) in mind, this is just an inflammatory comparison with no basis intended to vaguely suggest that anyone who disagrees with you is just biased and can't possibly genuinely believe that the people in this particular case deserve it.
Well yeah but we're arguing on the internet so really, we all 'lose' in a grander sense. |
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jr240483
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not gona happen anytime soon.Hopefully this will send a strong message to illegal streemers and fansubbers over there. Now if only the US govt will get off their lazy butts and do the same too.
I really hope that happens. illegal downloading needs to get taken on by the horns. Now if the US will do the same thing,as well as go after fansub groups and push video sites like veoh,youtube and mysoace to make more effort to removed unauthorizied anime on their servers then everything will be set. |
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