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NEWS: Japan's 1st Boys-Love Bar to Open in Tokyo's Akihabara

and to think, i'll be in japan when it opens...

i'm not sure i'm brave enough to venture in though....

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According to KT Systems, the MiracleJumP bar will have both "two-dimensional" staff members (in the form of dōjinshi) and living boys-love staff members.

Weeeird. How are they gonna manage that? Hiring straight men to act gay? Man, that'd never fly over here... Not sure if it'd be much better if they hired real gay men, though. Weird.

The only real problem I can see with this would arise from the audience: either older, drunken ladies yelling that they want to see some "action", or gay male customers making the young girl customers uncomfortable by bringing a bit too much reality to the BL concept.

That would be really funny if real gay men did come and make the young girl customers uncomfortable! Believe it or not, fujoshi girls really have no idea what real homosexuality is, that would be a reall wake up call when they find out that yes there really are men who like other man, and no it's not like how it is in a yaoi.

First of all, Young girls are probably not allowed in.

If those are like the pubs over here, yes they can. They just can't drink alcohol. Besides since they're doing something this fancy I doubt they will be relying on alcohol sales only, and that's where young people kick in.

These places are usually expensive.

Fourteen-year-olds may enter a pub unaccompanied by an adult if they order a meal. Children may enter a pub with their parents until 9 p.m., which lets families enjoy reasonably priced pub meals together, and allows pubs to continue in their traditional roles as community centers.

Are they really that desperate they would open up to this level of potential absurdity?

I also find it degrading to the REAL gay men of Japan. I honestly don't think real gay men will even want to be hired for this. Gay men don't want to entertain females, they want to entertain other males. Besides, I think I read once on here on the old Chicks on Anime article, that real gay men in Japan actually don't like yaoi, as they see it as a fetishizing fantasy of what homosexuality is for women. Really, I feel bad for the gays, I know they're not for this. Those fujoshi have doujinshi and yaoi-manga to look at.

With the intention to have a host club for boy-love, wouldn't most of applicants be gay, bi, curious, or just adventurous?

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That is many years ago and Issei-san is now owner of another Host-club called "french kiss club" if I'm not mistaken.

And the (at that time) young and beautiful Ryoma became very famous thanks to the movie, became a model and is nowadays also working as a designer for his own brand EXTASER

Before western contact, Japan did not have a system of identification in which one’s identity was determined by one’s biological sexual preference. In fact, “the tripartite taxonomy of sexual types that has resulted from the social construction [homo-, bi-, heterosexuality-], held no currency in Japan.”[4]

However, this does not indicate that sexual behaviors between individuals of the same sex were not practiced. In fact, such behavior was so common in Japan that documentation of same sex relationships dates back over a thousand years.

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Originally, shudō (衆道), wakashudō (若衆道) and nanshoku (男色) were the preferred terms during the Edo period. These terms did not imply a specific identity, but rather, their behaviours.

"Genji pulled the boy down beside him . . . Genji, for his part, or so one is informed, found the boy more attractive than his chilly sister."

From religious circles, same-sex love spread to the warrior class, where it was customary for a young samurai to apprentice to an older and more experienced man. The young samurai would be his lover for many years. The practice was known as shudo, the way of youth, and was held in high esteem by the warrior class

As Japanese society became pacified, the middle classes adopted many of the practices of the warrior class, in the case of shudo giving it a more mercantile interpretation. Male prostitutes (kagema), who were often passed off as apprentice kabuki actors and who catered to a mixed male and female clientele, did a healthy trade into the mid-1800s despite increasing restrictions

Nanshoku (male homosexuality) was not considered incompatible with heterosexuality; books of erotic prints dedicated to nanshoku often presented erotic images of both young women (concubines, mekake, or prostitutes, jōrō) as well as attractive adolescent boys (wakashū) and cross-dressing youths (onnagata). Indeed, several works suggest that the most "envious" situation would be to have both many jōrō and many wakashū.[10]

Likewise, women were considered to be particularly attracted to both wakashū and onnagata, and it was assumed that these young men would reciprocate that interest.[10] Therefore, both the typical practitioners of nanshoku and the young men they desired would be considered bisexual in modern terminology.[11]

Men who were purely homosexual might be called "woman-haters" (onna-girai); this term, however, carried the connotation of aggressive distaste of women in all social contexts, rather than simply a preference for male sexual partners.[12]