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abunai
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Umm... no, it's not. If a French person were to write down the sound that most English speakers associate with "Lu", he'd write "Lou". But Lupin's name is pronounced (that is, in the original French version, not the Japanese version) with a French U sound, which is closer to a German U-with-umlaut: ü (and who can ever forget Charlie Chaplin in The Great Dictator, making fun of that sound?). The Japanese version is three morae: ru-pa-n. No "ü" sound there, since it doesn't occur naturally in Japanese. - abunai |
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king_micah
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From the staff page
I think he might know better. |
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abunai
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So, living in Quebec is an automatic guarantee of French skills? By the same logic, Mr. Kim from the local Korean market in Anytown, America might speak better English than both of us. Last I looked, Quebec was not uniformly francophone. As for me - moi, je parle français. I'm not a 100% native speaker, but I do know how to speak French. And, moreover, pronounce it. - abunai |
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Genjackel
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The reason they say Lupan is because when Lupin the III was first brought over to the US and released, there was a translation error and it was called Lupan the III, thats why the dub says Lupan. (or was it Rupin or Rupan... i dont remember, but whoever translated it got it all wrong) Pretty simple. AS was just kind and changed the title back to its orignial name. But you can countinue arguing over pronounciation, its quite amusing.
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abunai
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"Whoever translated it" probably just transliterated the name from Japanese, which would make it Lupan or Rupan - being ignorant of the original Arsène Lupin (Lupin I, if you will). By the way, what is this "dub" thing you speak of? 
Oh, and welcome to the forums. I guess. - abunai |
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sinistertaco
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Self-important much? |
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abunai
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As fascinating as this insight into your past as a telegram office clerk is, I don't see that it adds to the conversation. 
-abunai |
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hooliganj
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If I remember correctly, the 'Rupan' spelling was used because there were two different companies licensing the movies, and they weren't allowed to use the same title. One company got to stick with 'Lupin', and the other went with the romanization 'Rupan'. And I wouldn't be surprised at all to learn that the translators for Evangelion just went with the Japanese pronunciation, rather than research the origin of the word. |
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jfrog
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I believe it was a copyright thing. In the 60's Japan had pretty loose copyright laws, so Monkey Punch was able to create a character based on Arsene Lupin without paying Maurice Leblanc any royalties, and Lupin III was a cultural institution by the time the law changed. But the copyright only expired recently in America, hence Rupan III.
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abunai
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In a weird way, that actually makes sense. If there's one thing I've learned about the American legal system, it is this: when analysing the reasons for an event, don't attribute to mere stupidity or ignorance that which can be attributed to absurd legalistic attempts to avoid having to pay damages in a hypothetical civil suit.
Hence, the proliferation of silly warning labels. On everything. And all sorts of byzantine maneuverings to avoid the appearance of having infringed on someone else's copyright. Even when plagiarism is evident for all to see. - abunai |
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one3rd
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Warning labels like "This product may contain peanuts" on a bag of peanuts?
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jfrog
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Or "Warning: Wearing This Garment Does Not Enable You to Fly" on a Superman costume.
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Genjackel
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Or the "Do not attempt to stop chain with your hands or genitals" on a chainsaw... would hate to be the guy who caused them to put that warning on.
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Iron Chef
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It's posts like these that make me like you guys.
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abunai
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For myself, I've always considered the very best part of Jurassic Park to be the scene where they're trying to flee from a Tyrannosaurus Rex in a car, and you can see the T-Rex in the rear-view mirror, along with the warning label: "Warning: Objects in rear-view mirror are closer than they appear."
I get a big kick out of that. 
- abunai |
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