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braves



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:14 pm Reply with quote
spoiler[Moving on....] Just finished House of Five Leaves and it was great. Not exactly heaving-hitting stuff, but there's nothing wrong with that. Looking at the credits, I see that, as expected, they brought out their A-team for this episode: Nakazawa and Yamashita as the ADs and Mochizuki doing the storyboarding, directing and the script. I'm curious to see if it'll maintain this level of quality throughout, but at least the music was fantastic and that's something that will stay consistent.

That said, the spring season still hasn't started for me. There's still one more show left to air....
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:20 pm Reply with quote
Wow, Caspor, you are so desperately reaching for justification for your arguments that your posts are almost spectacular in their inaccuracy.

For the record, I would never post anything online that I was at all concerned could be traced back to me and used to blackmail me. (And really, what is there in saying you like that series to blackmail anyone with?) And while I am in my 30s, I think Tim is the only other one amongst the previewers who currently is, and he's not a regular. The fact that I am in my 30s has no bearing whatsoever on my reaction to content like this, either; trying to explain our actions using all of that psychological sexual babble is, frankly, a load of crap.

Look, I have a half-dozen ero games on the computer I'm typing this up on. I regularly play an online flash game called Sim Brothel, in which you build a successful Japanese-style brothel from the ground up using anime characters for your "girls." (Actually it's a remarkably involved game, albeit with some pics that are definitely NSFW.) I have several volumes of Bible Black on my shelves, along with Sexfriend. I actually liked To Love-Ru, which past the first episode is a much superior ecchi-dedicated show than anything that has been shown so far this season.

In other words, if you're in any way trying to insinuate that any concerns about AIDS or prudish inclinations are in any way affecting how I might view ecchi series, you (and everyone else who likes to mindlessly toss out such accusations) are utterly barking up the wrong tree.

Caspor wrote:
I would bet my soul on the fact that they are "very" well aware of the current market situation over there in the US.


And you'd lose that soul, as considerable evidence has stacked up over the past few years indicating that most Japanese studios have a very poor understanding of the American market - if they even care at all, which many don't. The Bandai Visual "experiment," and how poorly it fared, alone should be sufficient proof of that.

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Anime is a dieing market here in europe and ecchis sure as ell would be able to spice things up a lil bit but nay its not popular in the US so its not going to do well here either right???


How do you know it's not popular in the U.S.? Why would Funimation have bothered to license (and dub!) something like Queen's Blade if they didn't think there was still ample enough market to support it? Sex sells in the U.S. as well as anywhere.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:25 pm Reply with quote
^^Key, that was Media Blasters who licensed Queen's Blade.
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Key wrote:
And you'd lose that soul, as considerable evidence has stacked up over the past few years indicating that most Japanese studios have a very poor understanding of the American market - if they even care at all, which many don't. The Bandai Visual "experiment," and how poorly it fared, alone should be sufficient proof of that.

FYI (the "you" here being plural), this week's excellent podcast covers this very topic!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:07 am Reply with quote
Steroid wrote:
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Late to the party, but I have to chime in on this point. It seems to me that the running standard on these reviews is that every show in which a positively portrayed character shows a large degree of sexual desire gets points taken away, and any show that features characters getting into strife or difficulties gets points added. There is almost universal love for Rainbow, where the characters suffer in prison, and for House of 5 Leaves, where the protagonist must take on a difficult job with heavy moral implications. Conversely, there is almost universal dislike for B Gata H Kei, about a promiscuous girl, and for the Ikkitousen series, about hot girls kicking butt. Perhaps the show that puts it in sharpest relief is Arakawa under the bridge, which is also a romance, but one in which the fellow gives up his status to go live a homeless life for his girlfriend. If the premise were changed so that she went to live with him, and was obsessed with him the way Ako and Riko are in Kissxsis, would the reviews have been less laudatory? I think so. This is not a hard and fast rule, so there are exceptions, but it is a trend.

Point being: there's an old saw that says drama is "Throw your hero down a well. Throw rocks at him. Get him out of the well." The shows that seem to get positive reviews follow that. But there's another view which says that normality is the well and real life is the rocks, and that a show that gets the hero out of the well ought to have something extraordinary happen to him or her. That's what I'm looking for, and I find that kind of show better than the first kind.
Ah Steroid! How I've missed your misogynistic, loli/moe lusting laments at the global resentment of your way of looking at the female gender. You related to Dave Sim in any way mate? I know what you want; you want a plot where two busty 12 year old girls in bikinis are thrown down at the hero where they all get very wet and slick from whatever sexual perversion is performed whilst trying to come out of the well (no pun intended). I'm sure that would fit the order of "to have something extraordinary happen to him or her" for you. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:49 am Reply with quote
Mohawk52 wrote:
Steroid wrote:
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Late to the party, but I have to chime in on this point. It seems to me that the running standard on these reviews is that every show in which a positively portrayed character shows a large degree of sexual desire gets points taken away, and any show that features characters getting into strife or difficulties gets points added. There is almost universal love for Rainbow, where the characters suffer in prison, and for House of 5 Leaves, where the protagonist must take on a difficult job with heavy moral implications. Conversely, there is almost universal dislike for B Gata H Kei, about a promiscuous girl, and for the Ikkitousen series, about hot girls kicking butt. Perhaps the show that puts it in sharpest relief is Arakawa under the bridge, which is also a romance, but one in which the fellow gives up his status to go live a homeless life for his girlfriend. If the premise were changed so that she went to live with him, and was obsessed with him the way Ako and Riko are in Kissxsis, would the reviews have been less laudatory? I think so. This is not a hard and fast rule, so there are exceptions, but it is a trend.

Point being: there's an old saw that says drama is "Throw your hero down a well. Throw rocks at him. Get him out of the well." The shows that seem to get positive reviews follow that. But there's another view which says that normality is the well and real life is the rocks, and that a show that gets the hero out of the well ought to have something extraordinary happen to him or her. That's what I'm looking for, and I find that kind of show better than the first kind.
Ah Steroid! How I've missed your misogynistic, loli/moe lusting laments at the global resentment of your way of looking at the female gender. You related to Dave Sim in any way mate? I know what you want; you want a plot where two busty 12 year old girls in bikinis are thrown down at the hero where they all get very wet and slick from whatever sexual perversion is performed whilst trying to come out of the well (no pun intended). I'm sure that would fit the order of "to have something extraordinary happen to him or her" for you. Wink


I regularly have tea with friends who immigrated here from Japan. I forwarded Steroid's post to them to get their opinions.

They tell me that a lot of men in Japan have the same impression as he does: that real women should behave like their counterparts do in anime. This unrealistic attitude is one of the reasons (according to them), that the women don't want to have anything to do with the men. Both of my friends immigrated here because of better job prospects with better working conditions as well as possible boyfriend prospects. They say there is a lot of innuendo, harassment, hostility, and general condescending attitudes in the workplace for female workers. One of my friends is now married to an American guy that totally lets her pursue her own interests. She tells me she never would have found that in Japan, the way things are now.

I think this is a pretty sad state of affairs when the women are immigrating to another country just to get away from the men. Crying or Very sad
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UtenaAnthy



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:21 am Reply with quote
Key wrote:
Look, I have a half-dozen ero games on the computer I'm typing this up on. I regularly play an online flash game called Sim Brothel, in which you build a successful Japanese-style brothel from the ground up using anime characters for your "girls." (Actually it's a remarkably involved game, albeit with some pics that are definitely NSFW.) I have several volumes of Bible Black on my shelves, along with Sexfriend. I actually liked To Love-Ru, which past the first episode is a much superior ecchi-dedicated show than anything that has been shown so far this season.


I note that my post, in which I made clear that I sometimes watch hentai/porn/ecchi and I think sex is perfectly ****ing fine darnit, was also ignored by Caspor, and FYI I am from the u.k. and I still think shows about incest between biological or raised together adopted siblings are rather repulsive if it's condoned (I have no objections to teenagers whose parents have remarried while they were teenagers becoming involved as the Westermarck effect doesn't apply there).
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crilix



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:23 am Reply with quote
We can't call accusations about Funi playing some sort of hand with ANN's review process anything but irrational, however the thought that it was so clear that House of Five Leaves would get good grades before I opened the previews still entertains me. Ultimately, I enjoyed the first episode, but the fact that it's a simple story told simply won't convince anyone to buy this shit, except for a few MANGLOBE Mod note - this isn't 4chan, genius.
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Seljuk



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:16 am Reply with quote
Key wrote:
Look, I have a half-dozen ero games on the computer I'm typing this up on.


Screw responding to the troll, I wanna know which ero games you have there, Mr. Key. Wink
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Stretch24



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:22 pm Reply with quote
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I think we ought to have a rule that nobody can criticise the critics and their reviews (instead of the shows in question) until they have posted a credible review of the show in question themself.


Tempest wrote:
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Criticism of our writing goes with the territory and is more than welcome. More often than not it's really dumb criticism that we just ignore, and on other occasions our critics (the ones criticizing us) actually have a point and we learn from it.

Criticize away. As long as people are polite, and have the decency to stop once they've made their point, we won't ban anyone.

-t


Yeah, I guess that rule would do more harm than good in the end. And the arguments are half the fun! As long as they don't get out of hand, that is. Having been reassured that the ANN reviewers aren't letting this business get under their skin, I withdraw the suggestion.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:09 am Reply with quote
Really looking forward to the second season of K-On and “Working!”.

Also, it seems like Black Rock Shooter got it’s own anime/ova.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:34 am Reply with quote
Well, all in all I think I can say this season was a very successful one. I would have been happy with just one or two shows of high quality, but we've gotten a lot more than that. I'm following nine shows, ten when the final good show of the season is released. That's a pretty good haul, I have to say.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:52 am Reply with quote
I'm at 12 for the new season
-Rainbow
-House of Five Leaves
-K-ON!!
-Angel Beats
-SD Gundam Sangokuden (yes it counts)
-Arakawa Under the Bridge
-Senkou no Night Raid (whenever 2 decides to come out Rolling Eyes)
-Working
-Koihime Musou S3
-Ichiban Ushirou no Daimaou.
-B Gata H Kei
-Heroman

And most likely Yojo-han when FUNi streams it. Not to mention the shows that are still ongoing on CR and FMA:B/One Piece on FUNi's player and Katanagatari.

Yeah, Spring 10=best season ever for me.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:45 pm Reply with quote
dtm42 wrote:
Well, all in all I think I can say this season was a very successful one. I would have been happy with just one or two shows of high quality, but we've gotten a lot more than that.


Although I didn't feel that there were any breakout hits or bowl-me-over moments (unlike last spring's Cross Game and Eden of the East), I must agree that, based on the episodes that have aired so far, this is going to be a pretty strong season. I am definitely going to be watching out Heroman and Ichiban Ushiro no Daimao and Angel Beats! may have completely won me over with its third episode. Senkou no Night Raid is also likely if it starts coming out regularly - but I'm tired of series which come out irregularly, so I'm not going to be too tolerant on that one. I will also likely given B Gatta H Kei at least one more chance, since the second episode was a distinct improvement.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:07 pm Reply with quote
I see the Guide has been knocked off the front page. Oh well- it's understandable, some shows are getting to the fourth episode mark.

Thought maybe someone would review the second episode of Uraboku (I would be curious because the BL lite story turns me off but thought the story might be better than most and wonder where it goes after the first episode), and I'm a bit curious what the critical consensus will be on The Tatami Galaxy. I guess you could still put them in there stealthfully.
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