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Tamaria
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Kinda not new: animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=121047
In any case, there are not many mangaka who can say their art was copied by Gene Simmons' son. Last edited by Tamaria on Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:00 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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John Casey
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Viz Media Swat Team:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOajzfDQbKU |
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The Xenos
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Man, did I call it or what? I actually missed the Bleach connection until someone on CBR pointed it out. I kept seeing a cheap Hellsing knock off. Wasn't until this week that I saw the more detailed comparisons by Bleach fans. Good for them. This thing just exploded last night.
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NDenizen
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It's not exactly the same, undeniably, but you can't deny it's pretty much copied - the character design itself is plagiarized regardless of the panel that was.
But seriously, this irresponsible and utterly stupid attempt at a "manga" makes the author of D.Gray-man look like a genius. |
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John Casey
Posts: 1853 Location: In My Angry Center |
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What else can you expect of Gene Simmons' blood.
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The Xenos
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jgreen
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This...honestly isn't that big a deal. The art swipes (where he traced over others' artwork) may prove that Nick Simmons is a lazy artist, but what he did isn't illegal because you can't copyright a pose. The US comics industry has a lengthy history of artists swiping from one another (heck, the first appearance of Batman was riddled with swipes). I doubt, as LydiaDianne says, that "this is going to hurt him professionally for quite some time," considering guys like Rob Liefeld, Greg Land, and David Mack are some of the biggest artists in comics and, as those links show, they swipe ALL THE TIME. (There's even a manga swipe in there...keep an eye out for Eat-Man on the Liefeld page!)
What *could* get him in more trouble are the character designs that look too much like copyrighted characters, and the lifted bits of dialogue. But that's not what anyone is concentrating on.
He probably used a light box. |
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joshjoshlol
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what a surprise: the spoiled rich brat of an egomaniac was raised with everything handed to him and now he can't meet the demands of the real world and thus does whatever he feels like doing to further himself without paying proper dues. it's as unoriginal of a story as the supposed artist himself... hmm, life imitating art, maybe?
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Spaceman-Spiff
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This is correct. And many mangaka started as doujin writers.
I agree with this too. This case is not like a doujin at all. A doujin usually only borrows the characters of a series, but told in different stories and art. But in this case, not only copying characters, he also copied the art and story. It's clearly a rip-off. |
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firedragon54738
 Posts: 3113 Location: wisconsin |
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Well they do all most look the same but Nick's art work is very good
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John Casey
Posts: 1853 Location: In My Angry Center |
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Fix'd.
And here I thought Dennis DeYoung was the de-facto musical douchebag with no taste or talent... |
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Dargonxtc
 Posts: 4463 Location: Nc5xd7+ スターダストの海洋 |
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That... is... AWESOME When you think about what we know about Kubo's musical tastes, then he is probably a fan. Now I don't ever remember him saying KISS specifically, but it certainly isn't out of the realm of possibilities. Now whether that means he truly doesn't care that he was copied is another thing. |
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Bell02
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To be fair, I don't picture Kubo actually giving an opinion on a legal matter in a public post, that's kind-of not appropriate (especially not Japan appropriate), but what he said is funny.
I actually feel kind-of impressed and sad, impressed because even with the alleged traced scenes (but obviously they were copied, not traced), the kid can draw well. Probably among the best Manga style western artists, but the fact that he is coping, and coping so much is sad... Was he just lazy? Was he so in love with bleach he had to make his own? Or is he just really bad at character design... Truth be told, I'm hoping for the laziness, because I've got my eye out on this kid now, and I'm curious to see what else he may come up with! Last edited by Bell02 on Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:16 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Phantom14
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So far from Kubos response to all this stuff is pretty cool. You gotta hand it to him, he's a real down to earth kinda guy.
As for simmon's if he in fact did (im no one to judge) then he should first of all apologize and make amends. Either way he's in allota trouble. |
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John Casey
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I love the irony of his journal entry in devArt:
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