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animaniac
Joined: 06 May 2003
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 11:22 pm
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None of these look like "big deals" to me but worth a watch I am sure at least. I want my damn future boy conan dvds to come over here to the usa dammit! And of course the new howl's castle.
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GATSU
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 1:48 am
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Actually, in some ways, Takahata's material is better than Miyazaki's movies, because Takahata's a little bit better at conveying his messages than Miyazaki. I think Miyazaki does a better job when he focuses more on the adventure aspect of his films. (In fact, Takakhata told me he prefers to do films that use more real world elements, because he thinks that media on both sides of the Pacific tends to be too fantasy-oriented. FYI, he cited Harry Potter and LOTR as American examples, which will probably hurt sales from the fanboys and fangirls, but like Kon, the mainstream fans wouldn't be interested in Takahata's stuff anyway. Although I did see a few people wearing Tenchi and Evangelion clothing at the screenings, so I could be wrong.)
Anyway, I talked to the speaker the Japanese Anime Symposium, because I was concerned that Disney would try to edit Pon Poko cus it features animal genitalia, and she told me the print they sent was from them, so I'm assuming it'll be uncut. I'm also kind of surprised they're taking a chance on Only Yesterday, because it features some frank discussions(and slightly immature comments) on menstruation. But Snopes said that Disney once animated a sex-ed video, so I guess it's nothing new for them. The Yamadas might be the toughest to sell over here, because while it's probably the most accessable as a family film, it's about a Japanese family, and a lot of cultural jokes might fly over your head. In fact, while I liked it, I still found myself saying, "Huh?" instead of "Ha ha", compared to two Japanese girls sitting in front of me who were laughing their butts off.
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Goshin
Joined: 27 Aug 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 10:14 am
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I’m actually quite excited about “Only Yesterday” getting licensed. The story itself is very enthralling and it’s rather heart warming.
I haven’t had the privilege of watching the other two, but I can imagine they’re just as good. Heck, it’s Studio Ghibli; all of their movies are downright impressive, to say the least.
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mrgazpacho
Joined: 14 Jan 2002
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 12:41 pm
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I wear Eva T-shirts all the time and Tonari no Yamada-kun was the first DVD I ever bought
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GATSU
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 1:34 pm
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goshin: Even though Pon Poko came first, think of it as an unofficial sequel to Princess Mononoke. As for the Yamadas, it's based on a family comic strip which, unlike Family Circus, doesn't annoy the hell out of you.
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Neilworms
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 2:26 pm
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Takahata is really my favorite anime director, his work is so excellent, he pretty much is the pioneer of serious sophisticated anime, and for that he is a genius.
Only Yesterday is one of my favorite films, mainly because of what it does with animation. It takes a genera "shouldn't be animated" and turns it into a fantastic work that wouldn't be as good if it wasn't animated :).
My Neighbors the Yamadas is a peek at the little things that make a family a family. Like gatsu said its based off of a family comic strip, but unlike most family comic strips (I don't know if this is takahata's touch) it has a lot of heart, its very touching, sophisticated, humourous insightful and just generally good.
Pom Poko is a bit different than the other two, more fantasy oriented, but not without its groundings in reality. Miyazaki was originally going to direct this one and it shows. Takahata made the film be an involving look at how societies repond to change, but at the same time it has a lot of humor and is just generally a fun movie.
I highly recommend these films to anyone, I am estatic to see official releases of them, this is the kind of work that makes animation truely deserving of being considered in artform.
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GATSU
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 3:35 pm
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Oh yeah. Takahata confirmed a new project, but wouldn't give any details.
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Neilworms
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 3:59 pm
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Gatsu do you at least know if its a film project? I really hope it is... I at least want to see one more film from him.
Also was there anything there about his short that he did on Basho?
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Tenchi
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 4:27 pm
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Gah! I thought Whisper of the Heart, about my second favourite Ghibli film overall (between Kiki's Delivery Service and My Neighbour Totoro) was going to be the first non-Miyazaki-directed film to appear on DVD under the deal. I've heard rumours that it was, but they were having a bit of trouble with the American rights holder of "Country Roads"... maybe there's a grain of truth to that?
I've been looking forward to seeing Only Yesterday, which I've never gotten a chance to see and which, Sailor Moon fans take note, has Chieko Baishou's "Sayonara at the End of the Dance" in the soundtrack, apparently... well, it's on once of the CDs. "Sayonara at the End of the Dance" was the tune which inspired DALI's "Moonlight Densetsu", the opening theme for the first four seasons, though, contrary to what you might read elsewhere, it's not note-for-note identical, but it's still quite close.
Ponpoko is the only Ghibli film I hate with a passion... sorry.
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setzer
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 4:27 pm
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Has there been any word of Whisper of the Heart being released? I'm excited that Takahata's work is coming over, but I'm crazy about his movies as I am Miyazaki's. I will still watch them to see what they are like, though. And I really want to see Only Yesterday. I heard it is really good.
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GATSU
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 9:04 pm
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My theory is Disney wants to get the rights to The Cat Returns, since it's a spin-off of Whispers of the Heart. Anyway, Disney can only crank them out as fast as the Japanese licensors will allow them to be released. So just be patient. And Pon Poko was fine. I think people hate it, because they want the conflict between man and nature to resolve with a happy ending like it did in Princess Mononoke.
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ShellBullet
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 8:48 pm
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I must eat my words. I have stated several times in the past that PomPoko would never be released by Disney for obvious reasons, boy was I wrong. Even though I was proven wrong, I am really excited about it as it is my favorite Takahata film.
GATSU wrote: | And Pon Poko was fine. I think people hate it, because they want the conflict between man and nature to resolve with a happy ending like it did in Princess Mononoke. |
Maybe I misunderstand you. In what sense does Princess Mononoke end happy? If you notice at the end basically every one of the old forest gods is dead except for the two cubs. Of course that is in line with history. Ashitaka is unable to return to his home and his future with San is anything but certain. The end to PomPoko is far more cheery in my book!
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GATSU
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:34 pm
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Shell: Yeah, but the environment's turned to normal, Ashitaka's got his arm back, and everyone can start all over. In Pon Poko, the environment isn't back to normal, many of the tanuki are dead, and they have to accept living in the human world.
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ShellBullet
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 8:07 pm
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Well, I quess. It's fair to say that neither one ends entirely happy or entirely sad. In PomPoko at least The main characters find a way to live in their new world and are able to enjoy a nostalgic romp as Tanuki every once in a while. Altough that does not release them from the pressures of having to live as humans.
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Sydney2K
Joined: 01 Mar 2004
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:46 am
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GATSU wrote: | goshin: Even though Pon Poko came first, think of it as an unofficial sequel to Princess Mononoke. |
Actually, it's more like a sequel to Totoro- a rather sad sequel, seeing that Totoro has as one of its theme the wonder of the country and of nature, and PonPoko the march of progress as the city encroaches on the country.
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