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barkera



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:25 pm Reply with quote
Does anyone know of any good series to start her off with? I know she'd love it if she gave it a chance, but she's pretty put off at having to read subtitles and listen to it in Japanese (don't suggest dubs, I hate them Razz ). She's 15, so I was thinking something like Ouran High School Host Club might be good, or Fruits Basket.

To give you an idea of what she likes, western shows she watches are (mostly Disney):

- Jake Long: American Dragon
- Hannah Montanna
- The Suite Life of Zack and Cody
- The Emperor's New School
- Avatar: The Last Airbender (she loved this one. So did I! Razz)
- Saved by the Bell
- Full House
- Home Improvement
- Fairly Odd Parents

So if you can suggest any anime she might like, please let me know!
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LuckySeven



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:17 pm Reply with quote
I know you said don't suggest dubs, but I'm thinking that might be the only way. Especially for someone that isn't into anime in the first place. No way I'd ever try to introduce someone to anime with subs, that's almost a guaranteed failure. You might hate dubs, but you gotta be flexible about these things.
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spooksmagee



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:24 pm Reply with quote
Try some Miyazaki films, they're probably one of the easiest ways to get someone into anime. They all have excellent dubs as well.

Beyond that... she might like Haibane Renmei. It has a fantastic story, and is easy to get into for someone new to the genre.
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LydiaDianne



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:33 pm Reply with quote
LuckySeven wrote:
I know you said don't suggest dubs, but I'm thinking that might be the only way. Especially for someone that isn't into anime in the first place. No way I'd ever try to introduce someone to anime with subs, that's almost a guaranteed failure. You might hate dubs, but you gotta be flexible about these things.


LuckySeven is right, subtitles right off is not a good idea...unless she already likes foreign films, which it doesn't seem like she does.

As for titles, you might try:

Cardcaptor Sakura - a young girl accidentally releases magical cards and has to try and recapture them. She makes an important new friend and learns things about herself and those about her.

Angelic Layer - a young girl comes to Tokyo and discovers a wonderful game involving fighting dolls. She makes lots of new friends. She, too, learns things about herself and a secret her mother has been keeping from her.

DNAngel - a young boy learns that he has a (totally hot looking) alter ego whose job is to steal magical artwork. He also learns things about himself (sorry, it's a common theme) and also learns who is the most important person to him.

Pretear - Based on Snow White. A high school girl whose father remarried a woman with two daughters, meets a group of good-looking guys and learns that she is THE ONE destined to help them defeat the one bent on destroying her world and theirs.

The two that you suggested are also good titles. Good luck and I hope that you are able to turn her into another anime addict!
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JacobC
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:45 pm Reply with quote
I'd go with Fruits Basket, definitely. Ouran is a good idea as well. I don't know, a lot of people here have covered your bases, but I do want to emphasize, like them, that dubs are the WAY TO GO if you're introducing someone to anime. I've gotten several previously non-fans into it, and it always required a dub.

Your sister watches some of the most nauseating stuff on the Disney channel. I don't think a slightly corny dub is going to bother her, and Furuba and Ouran both have great dubs.
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rti9



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:50 pm Reply with quote
It's nice that so many people want to get closer to their siblings through anime, but I'm inclined to think that most of the time it is either ineffective or it backfires. There are some interesting points of view regarding this subject on this thread. My suggestion is don't force her to watch anything. Invite her to watch it with you or recommend. Don't shove it to her face.

spooksmagee wrote:
Try some Miyazaki films, they're probably one of the easiest ways to get someone into anime. They all have excellent dubs as well.

Agreed. Don't you guys think that TV series might be a little too intimidating due to size?


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Olliff



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:00 am Reply with quote
Both Fruit Baskets and Ouran School Host club are both good picks. However, if you think she may be turned off by some of the shonen-ai elements found in these shows, I would recommend 5 Centimeters per Second, Haibane Renmei or Nodame Cantabile. Of these three titles, 5 cm per Second would probably be the ideal pick due its shorter series length. Shorter series or movies are ideal for newbies.

This may very well not be a problem. However, surprisingly enough, I have seen girls who loathe shows like Ouran School Host Club for this very reason. I guess Ohno was wrong.

I agree with the other posters. For a newbie, dubs are the way to go. Subs can be very intimidating for new anime watchers -- enough so to make a potential new fan stop watching. It may hurt your ears to listen to the dubs, but it will maximize your odds for success. Once she's hooked, then you can work on getting her to watch subs.
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jetz



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:14 am Reply with quote
Olliff wrote:
Both Fruit Baskets and Ouran School Host club are both good picks. However, if you think she may be turned off by some of the shonen-ai elements found in these shows, I would recommend 5 Centimeters per Second, Haibane Renmei or Nodame Cantabile. Of these three titles, 5 cm per Second would probably be the ideal pick due its shorter series length. Shorter series or movies are ideal for newbies who may be unwillingly to sit through a long series just to even see if they like anime.

This may very well not be a problem. However, surprisingly enough, I have seen girls who loathe shows like Ouran School Host Club for this very reason. I guess Ohno was wrong.

I agree with the other posters. For a newbie, dubs are the way to go. Subs can be very intimidating for new anime watchers -- enough so to make a potential new fan stop watching. It may hurt your ears to listen to the dubs, but it will maximize your odds for success. Once she's hooked, then you can work on getting her to watch subs.


Isn't 5 centimetres per second and Haibane Renmei a little too deep (possibly boring) for someone just starting to watch anime? I'd recommend something more like The Girl who Leapt Through Time. It's story is very simple (but entertaining and funny), and time traveling is a plot device that everyone is familiar with. It's also very relatable - sometimes you want to go back in time and re-do somethings. There's also Makoto's relationship with Chiaki, I'm sure some people have gone through that.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:27 am Reply with quote
I'm not sure it's really necessary to "get people into Anime", proselytizing like it's some sort of odd cult. If she doesn't like Japanese and she's perfectly satisfied with what she's already watching, I'm not sure why some other sort of odd cultural detritus needs to be pushed on her.

Really, I think one of the main problems with American anime fandom these days is a bunch of people who start watching anime because "their friends like it," without actually having a deep appreciation or understanding of the medium, without being truly devoted and good fans, but that's a story for a whole other thread...
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spooksmagee



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:30 am Reply with quote
jetz wrote:


Isn't 5 centimetres per second and Haibane Renmei a little too deep (possibly boring) for someone just starting to watch anime? I'd recommend something more like The Girl who Leapt Through Time. It's story is very simple (but entertaining and funny), and time traveling is a plot device that everyone is familiar with. It's also very relatable - sometimes you want to go back in time and re-do somethings. There's also Makoto's relationship with Chiaki, I'm sure some people have gone through that.


Honestly, I recommended Haibane mainly because it is a bit slower paced than most shows. And for lack of a better term, it lacks "anime moments," i.e. beads of sweat on the back of character heads, huge caricatures of characters making ridiculous faces, etc. Stuff that someone familiar with anime is used to, but might turn off someone new.
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Agoston



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:58 am Reply with quote
Ouran is great but I'd definitely wait up on that. All of it's references to Japanese culture and even just to anime in general would probably confuse her if she was starting off with it. Unless you watch the dubs, I'm guessing that's a bit more "Westernized" or whatever you wanna call it. Only watched fansubs myself though.

I'm only reading the manga for Fruits Basket, but I really enjoy it and I know a lot of girls who read it too (I'm a guy) who are in the 13-16 or so age range. That may be a good place for her to start.
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LuckySeven



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:09 am Reply with quote
einhorn303 wrote:
I'm not sure it's really necessary to "get people into Anime", proselytizing like it's some sort of odd cult. If she doesn't like Japanese and she's perfectly satisfied with what she's already watching, I'm not sure why some other sort of odd cultural detritus needs to be pushed on her.

Really, I think one of the main problems with American anime fandom these days is a bunch of people who start watching anime because "their friends like it," without actually having a deep appreciation or understanding of the medium, without being truly devoted and good fans, but that's a story for a whole other thread...


I agree, as much as I love anime. I've never tried to get others into it. The lone exception being the time I rented Ninja Scroll when I was with my cousin and his friends. I wasn't even trying to get them into anime. I just really wanted to see it period. Didn't matter that they happened to be there with me. Though it did feel good when they ended up liking it too after they ragged on me about it when I first picked it up. Very Happy


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fighterholic



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:10 am Reply with quote
Ouran is a good choice for somebody that is her age, on top of that dub will be the way to go. Whether I consider that unfortunate or not I cannot say because I never watch dubs 99% of the time I watch anime. Fruits Basket I can only recommend to an extent. The first part of the series is great until you get to around the last three or four episodes and then it kind of goes downhill, as if the genre changed or something. One I might suggest would probably be Final Fantasy Unlimited, as some of the elements in the show may cross with what your sister watches in western shows. I also second Angelic Layer.
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Kelly



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:32 am Reply with quote
I'd also recommend Fruits Basket, as long as she knows going in that the anime only covered 1/3 of the story from the manga and had to cobble the last episode together because at the time it was made the anime team didn't know how the manga was going to end. I'd also recommend Ghost Hunt - typical shoujo with a few slightly creepy elements - of which I've just gotten through the first half (second half comes out on DVD next month) and liked quite a bit so far. There's also always the usual Miyazaki movies.

I'm reserving judgement on recommending Ouran until I see how the Hiitachins' running twincest joke is handled once the second set has come out in January and I've seen it all (I've read hints here that it's played up quite a bit more in the anime as opposed to the manga, and you might not want any embarassing moments between the two of you).
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Xanas



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:39 am Reply with quote
einhorn303 wrote:
I'm not sure it's really necessary to "get people into Anime", proselytizing like it's some sort of odd cult. If she doesn't like Japanese and she's perfectly satisfied with what she's already watching, I'm not sure why some other sort of odd cultural detritus needs to be pushed on her.

Anime fans are hardly the only ones who seek to have others around them do the same things they are doing. Gamers do this, fans of almost any media do this if they are avid about it.

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Really, I think one of the main problems with American anime fandom these days is a bunch of people who start watching anime because "their friends like it," without actually having a deep appreciation or understanding of the medium, without being truly devoted and good fans, but that's a story for a whole other thread...

I don't think anyone continues to watch something because "their friends like it." I think that's a misconception on your part. Just because one person is trying to "get another into" liking something doesn't mean it will work, and any person should be willing to accept that. Not accepting that someone doesn't like what you do is annoying and detrimental, but simply the act of trying to "proselytize" is not wrong at all. It's perfectly natural. I've watched many films because friends of mine really liked those films. And I liked many of them, and didn't like some of them. Getting someone into anime is really not any different than recommending/pushing for a friend to see a film.

Everyone wants other people to like what they do. No one desires to be a social outcast. There isn't anything wrong with promotion of your own interests.

With my sister this has worked both ways. She has got me into some anime (Fate Stay Night, Naruto, Bleach) and I was responsible for her interest in games (Neverwinter Nights, World of Warcraft, etc.). Neither she nor I like them any less solely because we were asked to watch or play.

My mother, on the other hand, dislikes anime and most of the games we play. I was responsible for getting her into RTS games though, which she plays more than I do these days.
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