Forum - View topicCine-Manga: How do you like it?
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AnimeCon
 Posts: 52 Location: USA |
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Seriously, cine-manga has done very well with Tokyopop these past few years. However, I only own one cine-manga which is Duel Masters Volume 1.
Overall, what are your opinions on it? |
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Tamaria
 Posts: 1512 Location: De Achterhoek |
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I don't take it seriously. It's like those Ranma 1/2 comics they used to produce in France when the real manga wasn't available yet. Why read a comic consisting of ripped screens when you can watch the real thing? Not that I would want to watch something like The Simple Life but...
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AnimeCon
Posts: 52 Location: USA |
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Yea, I almost agree. Sometimes its pretty neat, like with Duel Masters you learn a little that the anime doesn't say or explain.
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AceRyonik
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I really don't get it. First of all, animation and illustration are totally different beasts. What works in one doesn't work in the other. Making a comic out of animation stills looks extremely flat compared to an original comic. The same thing also effects illustrations being pasted onto animations. Just look at that Street Fighter 2 HD remix as an example.
Secondly, you're just rehashing a rehash in most cases. I could see it working if the Cine-Manga were made from a series in which the animation totally kicked the ass of the manga before it, but Elfen Lied is the only example of that I can think of. And even then, it doesn't work because Elfen Lied's main selling points were its atmosphere, music, and its animation. That's like making FLCL into a cinemanga- why would you do it!? But that's not even what's being targeted for release as a Cine-manga. It usually works the other way around. Ranma? Duel Masters? A Hellsing Cine-manga; are you kidding me!? Except for the second example, which just sucks regardless, those mangas kicked the shit out of their animated counterparts! So why remake the comic in a way that celebrates the weaker aspect? Why not make slide show-style presentations of the manga, set it to music, and sell it on a DVD? Watchmen did it, and it was awesome! Way better than if they made a half-assed cartoon where Rorschach and Nite Owl save the day and marry their high school sweethearts and tried to sell that as a comic! It's just a bad idea. It was a bad concept, and you can't execute it properly. If you're one of the idiots buying this stuff, congratulations: you're part of the problem. As long as you keep throwing money at companies for their half-thought abortions, they're gonna keep putting price tags on them. And that's all I've gotta say on that issue. |
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The Xenos
 Posts: 1519 Location: Boston |
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Well, I don't know what to add to that. I don't get it either. Cine-manga has nothing to do with manga. They're cheap screen cap comics with some of horrible production values. They take something I've seen or could watch as a video and makes a reaaally lazy comic out of it.
I guess the only thing I can add is this. 
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Shiroi Hane
Encyclopedia Editor
 Posts: 7584 Location: Wales |
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I've never bought a cinemanga as I don't see the point. I did. however, once scan this in back when I was a member of the defunkt Megchan forums on ezboard. It is basically a cinemanga version of the 2nd Digimon Tamers OVA, but at the time pretty much no-one had seen it (fansubs weren't as prevalent back then and I'd never even considered importing tapes from Japan). At least they've put some care into the layout.
Thinking about it, as I child I owned soem novelizations that were essentially the same thing, being a series of stills from the movie with some text underneath, and those were the Transformers movie (which I actually only saw for the first time only a few years ago) and The Waterbabies. |
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The Xenos
Posts: 1519 Location: Boston |
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True, kids movie novelizations with pictures from the movie are pretty redundant too. It's just mindless commercialism cranking out another product to make a buck without thinking how pointless it is.
Of course one of the worst one I ever saw was the V for Vendetta movie novelization. Damn AOL Time Waner. They already have the classic original comic and now the movie. What's the damn point of the novel? Damn waste of trees that is. |
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AceRyonik
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Wait, what? They did WHAT?
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The Xenos
Posts: 1519 Location: Boston |
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Mr. Moore, would now be a bad time to bring up that Warners licensed a couple downloadable Watcmen mini-games? Also, could you sign my DVD of Watchmen Babies? Which of the babies is your favorite?
Ah. Over moichendizing. Where the real madness is made. From Watchmen to Hellsing, why can't you just let the original comics be and try selling those more instead of flooding the market with inferior product. Then you have utter trash like Hanna Montana or Simple Life 'manga'. And you wonder why TokyoPop was having trouble? They tossed crap like this into the market, weakening the very word 'manga'. To be fair, Dark Horse did Trigun and Hellsing anime screencap books. I think Viz did a Laputa one. Ugh. I love the anime, but why would I waste time reading it, especially on ones if I can just read the originals. Last edited by The Xenos on Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:39 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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abynormal
 Posts: 427 Location: Louisiana |
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Never liked the things. I mean yeah, you can do it, but the scenes from a movie or TV show don't necessarily translate into the frames of a comic book.
Manga have to be drawn and framed to accommodate speech bubbles and sound effects within the frames. Film and television don't have this liability, so they are framed to center on the images. When you try and draw speech bubbles and sfx over still frames, it often looks crowded and messy. Also, just the art direction between the two mediums is different. The way characters are drawn in the frames of a manga is totally different from how they are drawn and framed in animation cells. They are shiny, though. It's as close as you can get to a real full-color manga. But it's not my bag. |
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wizardz199
Posts: 112 Location: Hayward, CA |
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What is the point of it all? If you want to read the manga I will read the manga, but if I want to watch the anime, I will watch the anime. I refuse to be a fence rider. It is also kind of lazy on their part, all you have to do when it comes to cine-manga is take already made photos and add words. Are you an anime or a manga? Make up your mind!
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