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Dilandau



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 5:58 am Reply with quote
Go girls! I pulled this info from animenation:

"ICv2 News has published its analysis of the American anime and manga markets for 2003. In summary:

Manga was the fastest growing area of pop culture last year, with 75-100% growth to an estimated market size of around $100 million at retail, largely accounted for by females shopping for manga at bookstores.

The American anime industry grew at a much smaller 10-20% growth rate, bringing the total value of American anime DVD sales up to an estimated annual $550-$600 million."

who woulda thought eh?
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littlegreenwolf



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 6:11 am Reply with quote
Heh, it helps that one of the first manga out in america that became widely avalible was a sailormoon. That, and if most girl manga readers do what I do, it's no wonder this is happening. I cannot tell you howmany girls I've gotten into manga at my school in the past two years because of manga like peach girl. Some would think girls wouldn't be into comics, but they seem to be adapting to them fast. Some even stole my copies of Peachgirl. >.>

Anyway, I think it's a real good idea for the manga companies to keep bringing in the plain romance shoujo manga. Expect Hana Kimi sales to be very high when viz starts releasing that. It's one of my all time faves, and there is a giant fandom for it online.

I think it's been mentioned before, but anime fans aren't really made up by a male majority. If you go to an anime convention, the crowd will be pretty evenly split between males and females. I say hurrah to what has been considered by other girls as a "tomboy" intrest to becoming something common.

I will finish off by saying what I've said before: we need a shoujo manga monthly anology, and it would best be an American version of Hana to Yume, or Sho-comi, because those two magazine carry tons of great titles.
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Dilandau



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 6:29 am Reply with quote
So.....just curious really. Why do you think girls are more into manga than guys? I know its true....I always feel like a dork when I go to the manga section of a big store and I'm the only guy there. *panics and thinks 'maybe I shouldn't be here?'*

I find manga kinda frustrating, cause I know that I (somewhat) control the 'pace' of the story. So, I often get impatient and start 'just reading' and ignoring all the good artwork. I hate it when I do that!!! Sad
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littlegreenwolf



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 6:58 am Reply with quote
Dilandau wrote:
So.....just curious really. Why do you think girls are more into manga than guys? I know its true....I always feel like a dork when I go to the manga section of a big store and I'm the only guy there. *panics and thinks 'maybe I shouldn't be here?'*

I find manga kinda frustrating, cause I know that I (somewhat) control the 'pace' of the story. So, I often get impatient and start 'just reading' and ignoring all the good artwork. I hate it when I do that!!! Sad


Hmm. *Tries to come up with what she thinks* Well. I think it's mainly because a majority of the manga you'll find is shoujo manga, which automatically appeals to girls. You don't often see guys reading the shoujo manga that are obviously shoujo manga. Example, you'll see guyd reading X, but going no where near Fushigi Yugi. However with girls, you'll see them reading most of the manga, from everything to the obviously girl manga to things targeted towards guys like Sorcerer Hunters. I can't really explain why this is, but it happens. You can count on a significant percentage of the subscribers to Shonen-jump being female. I don't know why it is, but Hikaru no Go is pretty much a giant fangirl title, and you could probably see the rate of subscriptions rise when Viz announced that title.

>.> I don't think I answered your question. To simplyfy another reason, like I've said before anime fans are split pretty evenly between male and female, and the girls just have really great manga selections to show their bestfriends who are non-anime fans. It's easy to just tell your friend to try a shoujo manga, and they'll 8 out of 10 times, if it's a good shoujo manga, no matter how tomboyish the girl might be, she'll get hooked. I'm not that in to teenage romance stories. Never was one to get into Dawson's Creek and all that, but Hana Kimi and Hot Gimmic brough out the lovesick teengirl in me. They're just really easy to get hooked on.
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spawn



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 11:12 am Reply with quote
I'm looking for some members on my own forum

[Rest of post deleted, shoulda read Teh Rules -t]
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Dilandau



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 4:20 am Reply with quote
I think this person sent me an email with the same message *glares*

So, manga is like uber-caffeine for girls! Anime smile + sweatdrop

No wonder I get scared in manga sections of stores! But one thing I like about it....it keeps them quite for hours Anime hyper

lol. Another weird question. In Shoujo manga, is the female character ALWAYS the main character? Frankly, I have always found it really interesting when the guy is the one 'telling' the story...its different. Like with the Saikano manga. I don't think you would really classify that as Shoujo though. Anime smallmouth + sweatdrop
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littlegreenwolf



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 1:51 pm Reply with quote
Dilandau wrote:
lol. Another weird question. In Shoujo manga, is the female character ALWAYS the main character? Frankly, I have always found it really interesting when the guy is the one 'telling' the story...its different. Like with the Saikano manga. I don't think you would really classify that as Shoujo though. Anime smallmouth + sweatdrop


Well, X and RG Veda, two CLAMP titles, featured guys as the main character, but that doesn't make it any less shoujo. A girl can be the focus of a shonen manga, and that wouldn't make it shoujo. *example: Battle Angel Alita* . What classifies the shoujo manga is the focus on story and character relationships, instead of action. Keep in mind too that many shonen-ai and yaoi manga have pretty much no girls in the story, yet are still considered shoujo manga Wink.
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Yuki555



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 3:27 pm Reply with quote
I'm so happy to know more people are getting the message (manga is GOOD!). It certainly shows because Barnes and Nobles use to have this ONE shelf for manga, now manga books are all over the store! I (a male) personally have no problem picking up books like Fushigi Yuugi. As long as I like the story, I'll read it.
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himiko-chan



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 3:29 pm Reply with quote
littlegreenwolf wrote:
I will finish off by saying what I've said before: we need a shoujo manga monthly anology


But we *HAD* one, "SMILE" magazine. (Thank you, Tokyopop.)

Which was great because it hooked me on "Paradise Kiss" and "Mars", while at the same time letting me know that I didn't care for "Peach Girl" and "Juline". But, from an economic standpoint, the GN format is better for my wallet. Smile I can just pick the titles I really want to buy. And I can still get sucked into a new series by a pretty cover (like Alice 19th and Hot Gimmick) and by reading the first chapter at Borders.

The monthly must've not made economic sense for TP either or they wouldn't have switched to the GN format.

Anyway, it's better this way. With "SMILE", you had to go buy it at the comic book store, where the guy behind the counter is watching you every second. With the GNs, you can browse as much as you want in Borders. Smile
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littlegreenwolf



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 3:32 pm Reply with quote
Yeah, I used to get Smile. I loved getting a ton of different manga chapters in the mail every month. I was so mad when they stopped Smile.

Now that Shonen Jump is doing pretty well, and tokyopop has tons more shoujo titles, I'm hoping for them to possibly bring it back. >.< I would order a subscription in a heart beat.

Heck, they could start a monthly CLAMP magazine if they wanted to.
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qollocust



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 12:18 am Reply with quote
This doesn't apply to ALL female manga readers, but I've deffinitely got that shopping gene. Everytime I go to the mall, I have to buy something and seeing as I own/seen most of the good anime they sell at our best buy, I usually get a graphic novel at the bookstore. Plus it's cheaper to buy a graphic novel than a DVD.
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Luff-Chan



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 3:13 am Reply with quote
I have yet to bump into another guy in the manga section at bookstores -___- I just noticed that most are girls...and they give me glares and try not to look at me O_o I feel so weird at the GN section, and it is right by the cafe, and all those people....staring....watching....*shivers*
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Cerberus



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 4:05 pm Reply with quote
I too have never seen another boy at the manga section in my bookstore. I guess it's because boys don't spend as much time looking for manga to buy, we just find one we want and leave soon after. I've noticed that many of the girls will spend a lot of time reading the whole volume and then buying it. O_o (Well that's the way it is for me anyway. Sorry if my personal experiences are wrong.) I just look for a genre I like and if the first chapter is good, I buy it.
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Swordfish_II



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 4:39 pm Reply with quote
You've actually seen other people browsing the manga sections at the bookstores?
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Cerberus



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 7:04 pm Reply with quote
Swordfish_II wrote:
You've actually seen other people browsing the manga sections at the bookstores?


I have at stores like Barnes and Noble and Borders, since they are bigger but not at Waldenbooks. Yet.
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