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Sheleigha
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First off, I understand it isn't complete (although supposed to start up very soon). I remember watching a little bit of the show but didn't get very far and got into other things. Right now, just been having a bit of a CLAMP craze as I start hunting down some CLAMP no Kisekis (none yet
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Just wondering if this series is one worth starting? One thing I noticed when I was at the comic shop was that the volume I saw, had it in the left-right format. I know Viz did a reprint, so would this just be the 1st edition? I'm kinda hoping if I ever find the 2nd edition that it is not in that format. I prefer my manga all going in one direction^^ So curious on that too. |
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Kelly
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Hi Sheleigha.
I have glanced at it at bookstores myself, and believe it's only in flipped format from what I looked at, so make of that what you will. Unless you've found current news that would have us all jumping with joy, I haven't read anything recent suggesting that it's restarting any time soon. Some members of CLAMP apparently lost friends in the natural disaster that made continuing the series temporarily inappropriate, and we've heard nothing since then from what I know. Everyone's speculating on what they might do after Tsubasa ends in addition to the new experimental simultaneous language mangette release it's been confirmed they're doing next year, but at this point it's just that - speculation. My own decision after reading Tokyo Babylon (and I do strongly suggest reading TB first) was to opt for the X TV remix anime instead of the manga being that the manga's in limbo, and thought it was quite good - as well as having an actual ending, which the manga might never get. It all comes down to whether you can live with the flipped format and very possible non-ending. Hope this helps. |
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Sheleigha
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Wow so even the 2nd edition is unflipped? Well, I'm just being overly optimistic and hoping that the editions we found were the originals >_>
Hmmm yeah Tokyo Babylon, I keep forgetting about it^^ I guess that would be a good suggestion of what to start with first. Maybe I will start the TV series again as well. I remember.... disliking the movie (although it had pretty art  )
Hmmm I was certain though that I read once on ANN news, that CLAMP was soon to restart X/1999 (although in mind they said they were going to continue with series like Chun Yung). Something about... they were trying to search for a new publisher for it? Hmmm maybe someone else here remembers seeing it, or something like it^^ |
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marie-antoinette
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CLAMP keeps claiming that they want to restart X. But I'll believe it when I see it.
Though I did hear from someone running a CLAMP panel (just a fan, though a big CLAMP fan, so take this with grain of salt) that one of the reasons for the delay is that they have a contract with the original publisher who doesn't like their ending, but they won't be able to get out of said contract for a few more years, so if they want to change publishers it will be awhile yet. I'm hoping this is true, because it's the first explanation that makes sense to me. I also find the the TV series is better than the manga, at least the first bit. The manga has some really crazy pacing at times and I actually found that I didn't want to continue reading it, because it was just too slow. However there is significant deviation between the latter portion of the manga and the anime, and of course the anime has it's own ending. So as far as I see it, right now the anime is worth it but the manga isn't necessarily. If they finish it (and I do hope they will), then things will change. I also am hoping that Viz might re-release it in non-flipped format, with a new, improved translation should it actually be completed. |
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Raven Shinobi
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Though that the dark premise is something right up my ally, I couldn't get into the manga due to the pacing. Of what I read through the first two volumes it seemed to me that the story continuously kept going from point A to point B, it's beyond me how some people were able to follow through such a mess.
On the other hand, the anime, which I nabbed recently since it was one of Geneon's releases doomed to extinction, is so far makes a better sense to me. I don't know if it will end up being better than the original source, but the early episodes have IMO surpassed what I read of the manga. However, I heard that the series is pretty popular among CLAMP fans, so you might want to check it out ASAP since it seems that the manga will go OOP pretty soon. |
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Sheleigha
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Yeah, looking into it more the 2nd edition is just the smaller edition. I forgot about when you would find the older Viz manga to be larger in size. Surprises me (and no idea WHY) they never reflipped it like they did with ones like Cardcaptor Sakura.
Hmmm perhaps I WILL finish off the anime rather than go through the manga if that is the case... Does anyone know if the Remix boxet comes as a thinpack (reading that it only has 5 disks). I might check that out instead if so. Well, in all hopes of CLAMP finishing it up, there's always hope around the corner since Tsubasa and xxxHOLiC are just about done How they can write those AND other smaller projects like Kobato etc is amazing Maybe even a continuation of Clover, which I also never picked up (although it had a VERY pretty looking cover!) since I heard is was never done :/
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Kelly
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The 5 disk remix is a brick ("pages" holding the disks), which means it's book-shaped. It also has a booklet in front with intros to the main characters which you might find very useful until you have them all straight (there are 18 major characters including the 14 Dragons of Heaven and Earth!). Considering Geneon's situation, I'd pick it up ASAP.
Then read TB (the full story of what happened to Subaru seven years before the series began), cry, buy another box of tissues, and settle in! 
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marie-antoinette
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Yeah, I've been watching it with a friend and she uses the booklet all the time to remind herself who everyone is. It's especially useful for her, since she isn't an anime fan and thus isn't familiar with Japanese names enough to remember them (it took me about a year as an anime fan to really get that down). |
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Sheleigha
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A brick, ok not bad then. As long as it saves room was my concern
Yeah I think I will start hunting for Tokyo Babylon. Possibly after I start and finish my CLAMP no Kiseki hunt (that'll be pricey in itself >_>) I know there's an OVA out there too, done by Media Blasters or some older company like that, which never had many releases in the first place. (Heh I still remember watching the RG Veda OVA before I read it and enjoyed it ) Is that worth it?
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marie-antoinette
Posts: 4136 Location: Ottawa, Canada |
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Are you talking about X the Movie, or the Tokyo Babylon OVA? I'll tell you about both, just to be safe.
X the Movie is BAD. Like, really, REALLY bad. But as long as you go into it knowing that fact, it can be fun. Watch is dubbed for extra kicks. Tokyo Babylon is okay, but it has a MAJOR weakness in that it was made before the manga was done and thus doesn't have a conclusion to the main plot. But it's fun enough. I own it and don't regret the purchase, but I also picked it up for really cheap. If I had paid more than $20, I wouldn't be as happy. |
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aya_honda
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I completly agree marie_antoinette. The movie is really bad and there wasn't anything I liked about it. Plus the characters and their relationships are changed although the story line is the same. Too bloody and too mesy to say the least. As for Tokyo Babylon I would go with the manga, because the OVA presents only some episodes form the manga and doesn't explain what happens between Subaru Sumeragi and Seishirou Sakurazaku and why they are enemies in X. Still the OVAs are entertaining enough and I would recommend it too. Both the manga and the OVAs can be found pretty easy. |
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Sheleigha
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Oh heh, yeah I have seen X the movie before (and I believe it WAS the dub). Yeah... NOT a fan of the ending, or similar endings like it :/ I remember at the time it was one of my first very bloody animes I had seen. I only thing I DID enjoy about it, was Madhouse's artwork
Totally why I want to watch the TV series all the way through now.
Ok, I guess the Tokyo Babylon OVA is similar to the RG Veda one. Although I liked the RG Veda one, having never read it (or even know what it's even about >_>) it gave a sample of what it was about and from that I liked it and wanted to know more. I really do wish that they made a full series for it, having read through it all now :/ The OVA of TB appears to be an older hard to find title. And well, due to it sounding just mediocre, perhaps the manga (if I can find it >_>) would be the best choice afterall
As for the X manga, I'll just put that on hold as of now. I feel slightly turned off with people saying how slow the pace is, but at the same time I would still want to check it out, if/when CLAMP continues on it *crosses fingers for left-to-right format* >_>
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marie-antoinette
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That's my plan. If CLAMP finishes it, I will probably read. Though I might just pick up where it deviates from the anime, because the latter half seems to really pick up and have some interesting stuff in it. |
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Sheleigha
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Unless I'm getting it mixed up with Tsubasa, I heard the X manga was planning on getting MORE darker/violent, being another reason it fell through the publisher (along with the other events). But... I have a feeling I'm just crossing wires, since I know Tsubasa had that darker arc.... which just so happened to be the X on too, hehe.
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marie-antoinette
Posts: 4136 Location: Ottawa, Canada |
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No, that's what the rumor is, that the original publishers do not like the ending CLAMP wants because it is too violent. They also original stopped it because of some events in Japan (there was an earthquake involved, that's all I remember) that made the violence seem inappropriate at the time (but that was quite a few years ago now, so I do not believe that can be the only reason X has not started again).
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