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Duapex
Joined: 15 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:16 pm
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Ok, I totally looked for a Samurai 7 thread to post this question in, but didn't find one. I looked in the Anime Discussion sticky, as well as outright searched it in the forum engine-ma-bob, but alas, I've come up empty handed. But my question must be answered.
I once bought all of Samurai 7 but had to sell it for money. I only got through the first DVD, and I plan on re-buying it, but as of now am just watching a dubbed copy (I know, bad me). But for those of you who have watched the first DVD (dubbed or subbed) are there gay undertones between Kambei and Kyuzo or am I just seeing things? Is this a result of me watching it dubbed?
Just wondering if it's just me. Not a bad series so far, though. Definitely has picked up.
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:27 pm
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Undertones, like the "I think I'm in love... with your fighting style" line? I don't really think so.
To me, it looks like a pretty typical "I'm the only one who's allowed to kill you" obsession. Also, I don't think it's more noticeable in the dub than the sub; if you're looking for it, it's still there.
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Joichiro Nishi
Joined: 21 Jul 2007
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:45 pm
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Shounen animes are full of undertones, specially the old ones with their almost entire male cast. Ussually, the shounen main character has an obsession with his antagonist or an inconditional loyalty to his friend. These deep bounds between men can be interpreted as undertones but it doesn`t mean an approach to shounen ai, it`s a idealization of friendship and masculinity. Very few shounen characters are truly gays, when a character become too weird, usually he develope a relationship with a girl. I think that nobody should be surprised by Samurai 7`s innocent phrase, there are moments a lot more explicit in other shounens.
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Kelly
Joined: 17 Nov 2003
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:25 pm
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Activates Gaydar
Hmmm...Wait a minute! Is that???
Nope, just a speck of dust.
Deactivates Gaydar
Kidding aside, there are quite a few anime I've seen which have characters who are gay, bi or have relationships that are deliberately left hazy enough to let viewers draw their own conclusions, but I really don't think this was one of them. I agree with Dorcas Aurelia's interpretation.
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riccardo
Joined: 03 May 2007
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:19 pm
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To be honest, those are the last two characters I would consider likley to expressing any gay understones to each other.
Its an interesting observation, but in a word, I'd say its a pretty firm no.
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dtm42
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:52 am
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No. As others have mentioned, it is quite common in Shounen series for characters to act like that, and it almost never is an indication of homosexuality.
Gundam 00 goes even further, with Graham even saying that he loves Exia (and later, Setsuna, it seems).
Back to Samurai Seven, I do wish that they had developed Kyuzo's character more. He seemed worthy, and interesting. I like his fighting technique, and no, I too am not gay.
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kakitamike
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:03 am
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The same comment is made in the movie the series is based off of. I think it's just a sign of respect.
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Duapex
Joined: 15 Mar 2008
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:24 pm
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[in response to all the responses]
Ok, I hear ya. The "I want him" comment just through me off. The "in love" comment seemed like the normal obsession-only I can kill him-smart-alec-ness.
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