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ACｘS
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Some interesting developments here. I think the most important one is where Jinwoo killed Kim. You might think that that's only the obvious thing, and you'd be right. But Jinwoo has only killed other humans out of necessity i.e. his or other people's survival. By necessity, even the System will prompt him if he needs to kill someone. This time however, he didn't kill Kim out of necessity per se; it was for his own advantage to gain a Tank class in his inventory (mid-battle, no less). Gotta admit: if I were Jinwoo, I'd fancy an A-class Tank myself. Speaking of the System, I notice the System giving directives to Jinwoo less frequently (not just notifications; they happen as usual). I thought it was pretty obvious, but I'm wholly convinced that the System sees Jinwoo as an experiment. The objective of this experiment is still unrevealed (although I'm sure the System wants to see how far Jinwoo can go), but I'm more convinced of this when the Ice Elf King told him about the System's directive. And that's another thing: this is the *first time* an NPC talked to Jinwoo, and this NPC isn't even aware of the System (gasp, episode title!). This might seem strange: isn't the NPC part of the System? Or is this System a separate entity and not the one responsible for this alternative world in the first place? This is quite a revelation, to be honest. Perhaps not that critical, but I was surprised by how fast Jinwoo could harvest a fallen enemy. Especially for Kim; he did so not just mid-battle but in a split second. Jinwoo might think the single prize he extracted was a letdown, but I feel he is underestimating what that prize can do. |
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Edjwald
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@Minimikaze - the point about getting as high up the evolutionary ladder as possible before going in for retesting is a good one. It would be awfully awkward to claim to to be re-reawakened later.
@AC x S - I hadn't considered the implications of Jinwoo killing Tank-san since the A-ranker tried to kill a sixteen year old girl who he'd abandoned to death, then attacked Jinwoo while he as in the middle of a fight for his life. But the thing that creeps me out on reflection is the way Kim's avatar seemed to have an angry attitude different from the other shadow summons. If some sliver of Kim's consciousness is trapped in there...if Jinwoo is enslaving souls essentially...I wouldn't wish that on anyone. |
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Interesting to find out that there are opponents out there so strong they can't be harvested into Jinwoo-kun's (squee! See how familiarly I address him!) private little Blackwater army. Also, I don't know if he was being dense or just indifferent when Rich Boy mistakenly thought he was tapping some underage puddy. It's surprising for an anime to call out a character in-world for allegedly doing something like that. Might be a reflection of the story's K-origin.
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Gisan Otaku
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Did anyone else get reminded of the black cat deja vu scene from The Matrix when the ice elf king had his little glitch? Looks like a little foreshadowing to me.
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smurky turkey
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It is, though it has been made clear several times that the system is not to be trusted. It is necessary for Jin to grow but it may turn into a threat in the future.
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Edjwald
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I've read the web novel and even vaguely remember most of it, so I don't want to full on spoiler or anything, but here are several possibilities for discussion, and I'm not even claiming any of them are right since my memory on some specifics are a bit wobbly.
(1) There is more than one system. The ice elves are from one system, and the system Jin Woo is using (or that is using Jin Woo) is tasked with opposing invading systems. (2) The ice elves are from another world that was conquered just like our world is in the process of being conquered. They were incorporated into the system sort of like Jin Woo's shadow summons. The system is pitting beings against each other like lab mice to cultivate stronger species. Sort of like a Valhalla concept, training people for some distant Ragnarok. (3) Jin Woo's system is a glitch or bug from the larger system that is responsible for dungeon portals. A rogue program. (4) The ice elf wasn't glitched out...Jin Woo's perception was glitched out, since we know the system is what was making it possible for him to speak the ice elve's language in the first place. His system infused brain was reset for five seconds because the ice elf said something the system didn't want Jin Woo to hear. |
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ACｘS
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I know, Kim is the first human being that Jinwoo harvested. That part bothered me the most, and it took me a while to realize it. Did Jinwoo know this, or made a gamble mid-battle? Because now, the sky is the limit for his ability to level up. Just defeat an S-Rank and he can defeat even more. |
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Meh, that Kim guy was a jerk so screw him.
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Edjwald
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I believe this is indeed the first human Jin Woo has harvested. It's been almost ten years since I read it as a web novel, but I do remember there was one Shadow Knight who hated Jin Woo in life and was rebellious and a real pain in the ass, and Igris and the other shadow knights made its unlife hell and beat the rebelliousness right out of it. I figure that's the tank. but I don't think the shadow knight had total memory and consciousness and self-awareness and all that. It was more like it had remnants of its personality. Anybody who remembers the novel better than I do feel free to correct me there. |
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smurky turkey
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Well, going by episode 3 the shadow army is in sync. The Kim shadow does not seem to be acting out of line in any way so maybe things are not as dark as you guys are speculating.
Anyway, the third episode is interesting in that I want to say that you feel like a lot of progress has been made by Jin yet at the same time it actually feels like things are starting for real now. Given how monsters are slowly spreading into the world and Jin's OP pops delivering a warning despite him making short work of Hwang things are probably going to get worse. There is also Yoo Jinho and him trying to become guild master I suppose. |
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Edjwald
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@Smurky: That comment about the hunters thinking they're holding the dungeons back but are just making them stronger is pretty significant too.
But yah, I think the episode did a good job of showing lots of story threads, both to advance the sense that world is drawing toward some kind of mass poop hitting the fan incident, but also to alleviate the "All Jinwoo all the time!" that can set in when he does a lot of grinding. I just wish we could have seen Hwang getting his @$$ handed to him in more detail. With slow motion recaps and commentator analysis 
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Agreed. One of the things this show does extremely well is to present jerkfaces that you just can't wait until they get their comeuppance. But yeah, it's cool getting glimpses of the wider story. No second season disappointment for me, so far. |
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minamikaze
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Well, before this episode, I was wondering why the opening didn't have highlights of Jinwoo battling Hwang Dongsoo mixed in with the other fights.
So when Jinwoo's Father stated that the "power capable of bringing forth the ultimate catastrophe has awakened" which would devour and co-opt any hunters sent against it, that sounded a lot like Jinwoo's necromancer ability. I'm curious if there is another necromancer or if the owner of the power that awakened is actually Jinwoo himself, or perhaps is the system grooming Jinwoo to be able to counteract it? I'm also curious how long it will take Jinwoo's dad to get home. I'm guessing he probably cannot get on a commercial flight.  His best bet would probably be to go to the consulate and say he is an S class hunter who wants to return to his home country, considering how valuable S class hunters are.
Also, as informed as Jinho's dad was about Jinwoo's activities, I'm surprised that Jinho giving Jinwoo the building they were planning on using for their guild headquarters as payment for his assistance on the 19 raids didn't come up. Especially, since unless Jinwoo sells it back to them (or to someone else), he will be their landlord. Maybe that's the real reason he wants Jinwoo as part of the guild, so he won't have to pay him rent.
Now since Jinwoo has "adopted" Jinho as his little brother, will he be able to turn down his request to join their guild? I personally think it would be more interesting if Jinwoo joined an established guild. Although since Jinho's dad is only interested in the resources that can be obtained from the dungeons, Jinwoo could probably clean out even A level dungeons, that they purchase the rights to, on his own at this point. Since Jinwoo was unable summon the defeated demon's shadows as soldiers due to some sort of "mana contamination", I'm curious what those 10,000 demon souls gathered in the quest can be used for. I guess we'll probably find out after he defeats the last boss on the 100th floor. Not that I need to or even want to see a stat screen with details of Jinwoo's level, skills and stats after each level up, but since he said he was at level 60 when he entered the dungeon, I'm somewhat curious what level he is at now, after killing at least 10,000 demons, including two bosses. The only info about his levels we saw was a double level up after he easily killed the boss of the 75th floor. |
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Edjwald
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This is why I haven't been reading Japanese light novels for years. I don't want to ruin the anime, and I don't want to encourage companies to keep leaving the anime incomplete so that people will be forced to read the manga or light novels to find out what happens next. That said, I did recently give in and read the last volume of Asterisk Wars because I gave up on there ever being a season 3, and I wanted to see how the fate of the sister played out...anyway, I'd love to comment on some this stuff, but even as blurry as some of my memories of the novel are, it just feels like I'd be cheating.
I can say this though - it astounds me that anyone thought that Raging Hemorrhoid Hwang was the right choice to be an interpreter in a delicate situation just because he was a guild member who spoke Korean. Me, I think I'd rather have given the guy an electronic notebook and used a computer translator.... |
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minamikaze
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Actually thanks for that, I definitely was not looking for spoilers, imperfect or not, when I posed those questions.
That's where the sub translation is somewhat inadequate. The fact that the authorities (not not sure if they are police or the US equivalent of the Hunter Association) holding JInwoo's father, knew his name, where he claimed to be from, and that he was claiming that he had been trapped in the dungeon (dimension?) for 10 years, shows that they clearly had a translator for their initial interview. The Japanese word they used for what they wanted Hwang to do was 取り調べ（とりしらべ - torishirabe）which in this context means "interrogate" not translate. |
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